There's a White Cloud ecig flavor called Bora Bora that I used early in vaping. I just love the coconut touch in there. It's the main note on the exhale, but it's unlike DIY coconut flavors I've vaped: it's DRY coconut, sort of woody, not sweet. THAT is my goal. White Cloud describes Bora Bora as "...with intriguing hints of tropical island spice," which I don't taste, but it gave me a clue.
In DIY, I notice that coconut is a 'trailing' flavor in recipes. I taste it on the exhale, and no matter what else is with it, coconut will be there at the very end of an exhale. I've noticed this with every coconut flavoring I've tried. This is perfect for my goal of tobacco with trailing coconut flavor.
"Dry, woody, high notes" coconut flavor isn't in my box of flavors. I have creamy (FA), sweet (TFA Coconut Candy), and musty/deep/low notes (most of the rest, to my taste). I'm using FlavourArt for my project, but the others are still on reserve.
In my experience, getting coconut to taste ANY different requires other flavors that linger at the end of an exhale, and there aren't many like that. To get "dry, woody" isn't just a matter of adding Oak Wood flavoring, because it doesn't linger long enough to make coconut taste dry at the end of an exhale. I really like FA Oak Wood flavor to complement the tobacco bit of my recipes, but it doesn't fix the coconut.
My best prospect is FA Cardamom! It's a "hint of tropical island spice" that's excellent with coconut. I think of cardamom as ginger plus cinnamon, but drier. And cardamom is one of those flavors that lingers on the exhale, so it adds the effect I need. Now I'm on the right track. It takes a delicate touch to get the dry effect without adding too much spice, but it is working very well for me.
Then to find a tobacco or tobacco blend that doesn't interfere with the trailing coconut+cardamom. I want a dry, mild, neutral tobacco flavor that is recognizable as a tobacco. I don't want to copy Bora Bora in this respect - if it weren't marketed as a tobacco flavor, most people wouldn't identify it as tobacco at all.
Dry, neutral, mild is a hard tobacco to find! Suggestions, anyone? By neutral, I mean I don't want honey, caramel, anise, chocolate - that rules out many. I like burley flavor to add 'this is tobacco' to my mix; FA Burley is a little sweet to me and bolder than I want, but I can identify it as a tobacco, and it doesn't have the honey (etc) that I don't want. I need another tobacco(s) to balance Burley with high, light, dry notes. None of FA's other tobacco flavors are working here. Maxxblend adds honey. 7 Leaves adds anise. Most of the rest are too bold/distinctive. FA Virginia is aaaallmost there, just too green/grassy. So I'm using a Chinese flavoring called "BH" that I got at RTSVapes. It's a Virginia tobacco flavoring to my taste, richer and darker than FA Virginia. It's working great with FA Burley - a bit too "moist" and rich-tasting for the dry effect I'm after, but much better than those green/grass notes in FA Virginia. Anyone know a dry Virginia flavor that's less grassy than FA's?
So I'm currently at FA Burley and the Chinese "BH" for the tobacco, with FA's Coconut and Cardamom for a trailing dry coconut flavor. It's pretty darned good. I'll play with adding tiny touches of FA Cinnamon Ceylon and FA Oak Wood next, trying to dry it further.
I'm curious if anyone else has played with coconut tobacco. Share your notes?
In DIY, I notice that coconut is a 'trailing' flavor in recipes. I taste it on the exhale, and no matter what else is with it, coconut will be there at the very end of an exhale. I've noticed this with every coconut flavoring I've tried. This is perfect for my goal of tobacco with trailing coconut flavor.
"Dry, woody, high notes" coconut flavor isn't in my box of flavors. I have creamy (FA), sweet (TFA Coconut Candy), and musty/deep/low notes (most of the rest, to my taste). I'm using FlavourArt for my project, but the others are still on reserve.
In my experience, getting coconut to taste ANY different requires other flavors that linger at the end of an exhale, and there aren't many like that. To get "dry, woody" isn't just a matter of adding Oak Wood flavoring, because it doesn't linger long enough to make coconut taste dry at the end of an exhale. I really like FA Oak Wood flavor to complement the tobacco bit of my recipes, but it doesn't fix the coconut.
My best prospect is FA Cardamom! It's a "hint of tropical island spice" that's excellent with coconut. I think of cardamom as ginger plus cinnamon, but drier. And cardamom is one of those flavors that lingers on the exhale, so it adds the effect I need. Now I'm on the right track. It takes a delicate touch to get the dry effect without adding too much spice, but it is working very well for me.
Then to find a tobacco or tobacco blend that doesn't interfere with the trailing coconut+cardamom. I want a dry, mild, neutral tobacco flavor that is recognizable as a tobacco. I don't want to copy Bora Bora in this respect - if it weren't marketed as a tobacco flavor, most people wouldn't identify it as tobacco at all.
Dry, neutral, mild is a hard tobacco to find! Suggestions, anyone? By neutral, I mean I don't want honey, caramel, anise, chocolate - that rules out many. I like burley flavor to add 'this is tobacco' to my mix; FA Burley is a little sweet to me and bolder than I want, but I can identify it as a tobacco, and it doesn't have the honey (etc) that I don't want. I need another tobacco(s) to balance Burley with high, light, dry notes. None of FA's other tobacco flavors are working here. Maxxblend adds honey. 7 Leaves adds anise. Most of the rest are too bold/distinctive. FA Virginia is aaaallmost there, just too green/grassy. So I'm using a Chinese flavoring called "BH" that I got at RTSVapes. It's a Virginia tobacco flavoring to my taste, richer and darker than FA Virginia. It's working great with FA Burley - a bit too "moist" and rich-tasting for the dry effect I'm after, but much better than those green/grass notes in FA Virginia. Anyone know a dry Virginia flavor that's less grassy than FA's?
So I'm currently at FA Burley and the Chinese "BH" for the tobacco, with FA's Coconut and Cardamom for a trailing dry coconut flavor. It's pretty darned good. I'll play with adding tiny touches of FA Cinnamon Ceylon and FA Oak Wood next, trying to dry it further.
I'm curious if anyone else has played with coconut tobacco. Share your notes?
