anyone reccomend any teeth whitening products
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Hi! I'm new in the forum and I'm a dentist here in RJ Brazil. Be carefull with whitening products. Go to a dentist and do a treatment there because if you have any problem in gum and periodontal tissue you have to treat after using the bleaching product. Fluor application is good too while whitening teeth because it avoids teeth sensibility during the bleaching.
Sorry about my poor english!
Sorry about my poor english!
Your English is fine. And we're certainly glad to have a dentist among our numbers. Welcome and feel free to offer advice from your specialty viewpoint.
thats what ive been told about these teeth whiting products.. they take the enamel off..bleaching can not be a good thing for teeth period.
hi braziliyan guy, thanks for the input. so, i really dont have the kind of money dentists ask for where i live so its not really an option. do you think it is better to avoid every store product? are they all very dangerous?
from what i understand, you say the danger is for the gums when using any teeth whitening product? and is fluor the same as fluoride?
from what i understand, you say the danger is for the gums when using any teeth whitening product? and is fluor the same as fluoride?
dc there' no bleaching just cleaning and polishing system with two silicas, used by dentists to clean and polish the teeth.
this is your cheapest option and its good stuff mate
Colgate Total Professional Weekly Clean Toothpaste. Oral care routine, toothpaste, teeth polish
this is your cheapest option and its good stuff mate
Colgate Total Professional Weekly Clean Toothpaste. Oral care routine, toothpaste, teeth polish
Kit- not to worry- teeth whitening products are safe- it doesn't eat hte enamel, it goes into the dentril (the tiny holes in the enamel- I htink 'dentril' is the name of hte holes-) and attaches itself to hte bacteria in those holes, and it kills the bacteria which inturn whitens hte teeth- it's hte bacteria that cause the discolorations in the teeth. The peroxide won't damage the actual enamel- Enamel is very tough. The only hting that will damage teeth is lemon juice as it draws calcium out of hte teeth, weakening the inside structure of the tooth beneath the enamel- so stay away fro mlemon juice for whitening. Polishes on the other hand can, over avery long time, wear down the enamel a bit, but again, the enamel is very tough, and can withstand quite a bit of polishing.
Actually, I think they have porcelain veneers- which can also work to straighten out hte teeth as well, as well as giving them blindingly white smiles. At a couple thousand dollars a whack, I'll stick with my natural teeth http://www.yourdentistryguide.com/veneers/
what you a secret dentist NAZ....the product im talking about is only to be used once a week..so tooth enamel doesnt wear down..my dentist recommended it to me..so it must be safe..and it works a treat.
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i hate lemon juice..i like a lemon slice in a nice cold drink though!
I'm talking about constant every day or twice daily polishings Kit- over time, constant polishings can cause soem wear, but not much- not enough to worry about- the stuff you recommended is just fine, and could probably even be used a bitm ore than once weekly- but to be safe, once a week should help keep surface stains at bay nicely
Lol- nope- I've just recently been to dentist as I'm getting several gumline cavaties due to smoking and 8-10 sodas a day, and I looked into tooth whitening about 3 days before DC posted htis thread lol
Lol- nope- I've just recently been to dentist as I'm getting several gumline cavaties due to smoking and 8-10 sodas a day, and I looked into tooth whitening about 3 days before DC posted htis thread lol
whats your verdict then naz.. and what products have you gone with.
I haven't gone with any yet Kit- need to get hte cavaties filled first- I've got slight peridontal disease as well- the bone thta holds hte teeeth inplace should be a depth of 2-3, a couple of mine are 6's, a few 5's- so it's most important to brush properly to keep the bacteria from sinking below gumline to settle on the bone. Angle your brush up into the gums as ya brush- also use a good rinsing liquid that works to kill the bacteria- brush twice a day, and rinse mouth after drinkign sodas or wines etc. I've never flossed- hate the feelign of flossing, but suppose I should start. Also use softest bristles brushes.
I am using DG 'whitening' rinse which also I guess works to kill bacteria, but I've not noticed any whitening happening, and my gums get quite sore using hte stuff- I might have gotten a shade, shade and 1/2 more whiter, but it's hard to tell. I'm probably goign to try the Aquafresh trays after the dental work is done and my teeth don't hurt anymore (They always get pretty sensitive after fillings)
Darcy- I've read that laser whitening doesn't work much better, cost more, and the whitening will wear off just as quick as non laser whitening whitening treatmentes- The only hting is that it works 'quicker' needing less treatments I guess. Perhaps a treatment or two of laser whitening might be good, then just follow up with Crest Whitestrips or hte Aquafresh trays for touch up whitenings- just don't get too obsessed with getting hte hwitest possible teeth, as some people develope VERY painful shooting pains by whitening too much-
Trays are supposed to be much better than strips htough- but hte Aquafresh trays are flimsy, and some say hard to keep inplace for hte required time- but I guess they work better than strips and don't cause the gum sensitivity of Crest Whitestrips
I am using DG 'whitening' rinse which also I guess works to kill bacteria, but I've not noticed any whitening happening, and my gums get quite sore using hte stuff- I might have gotten a shade, shade and 1/2 more whiter, but it's hard to tell. I'm probably goign to try the Aquafresh trays after the dental work is done and my teeth don't hurt anymore (They always get pretty sensitive after fillings)
Darcy- I've read that laser whitening doesn't work much better, cost more, and the whitening will wear off just as quick as non laser whitening whitening treatmentes- The only hting is that it works 'quicker' needing less treatments I guess. Perhaps a treatment or two of laser whitening might be good, then just follow up with Crest Whitestrips or hte Aquafresh trays for touch up whitenings- just don't get too obsessed with getting hte hwitest possible teeth, as some people develope VERY painful shooting pains by whitening too much-
Trays are supposed to be much better than strips htough- but hte Aquafresh trays are flimsy, and some say hard to keep inplace for hte required time- but I guess they work better than strips and don't cause the gum sensitivity of Crest Whitestrips
Hi, my friends. Here are the answer for some questions:
1- Bleaching does not removes enamel. It only liberates oxigen and removes pigments that are prisioned in the space that exists in the enamel prisms cristals. The bleaching product has a propriety that dilatates these spaces to promove better pigment removal (it's reversible), that's why we can have sensibility. Fluoride is good because it helps to obliterate these spaces faster.
2- People that have gum and periodontal diseases have to have this problems controled to use bleaching products, otherwise, the problems can became bigger.
3- Here in Brazil a home bleaching is +- R$700,00, +- U$350,00. A lazer bleaching is +- R$1400,00, +- U$700,00. I think it's a good investment. We can afford it, we can pay small parcels per month, that's what I do with my patients here. Remember that this is a treatment and during the bleaching you have to go to the dentist to evaluate the oral and teeth condition.
4- The difference between the laser bleaching and the home bleaching are the concentration of the peroxide (bigger in laser) which we can get a faster result and control better the uniformity.
5- The problem of the bleaching products that we can buy in pharmacy is that we have contact of the product in gums and we can swollow them , we don't have a professional consult to see if we can use the product, there is a lot of fake bleachings, you have no uniformity in bleaching and sensibility problems.
Any questions I'm glad so answer!
1- Bleaching does not removes enamel. It only liberates oxigen and removes pigments that are prisioned in the space that exists in the enamel prisms cristals. The bleaching product has a propriety that dilatates these spaces to promove better pigment removal (it's reversible), that's why we can have sensibility. Fluoride is good because it helps to obliterate these spaces faster.
2- People that have gum and periodontal diseases have to have this problems controled to use bleaching products, otherwise, the problems can became bigger.
3- Here in Brazil a home bleaching is +- R$700,00, +- U$350,00. A lazer bleaching is +- R$1400,00, +- U$700,00. I think it's a good investment. We can afford it, we can pay small parcels per month, that's what I do with my patients here. Remember that this is a treatment and during the bleaching you have to go to the dentist to evaluate the oral and teeth condition.
4- The difference between the laser bleaching and the home bleaching are the concentration of the peroxide (bigger in laser) which we can get a faster result and control better the uniformity.
5- The problem of the bleaching products that we can buy in pharmacy is that we have contact of the product in gums and we can swollow them , we don't have a professional consult to see if we can use the product, there is a lot of fake bleachings, you have no uniformity in bleaching and sensibility problems.
Any questions I'm glad so answer!
I'm with Kit on this one. Colgate weekly clean (used daily for a few days) and a good electric toothbrush got my teeth cleaner than any whitening product I have used. And I did try a few back in the tobacco days!
I guess you shouldn't use it more than once a week due to its abrasive properties? Brush your teeth away to stubs over the years!
I guess you shouldn't use it more than once a week due to its abrasive properties? Brush your teeth away to stubs over the years!
Sorry to bump- but just found htis link- looks good (better than the slippery whitening strips and flimsy 'trays' in other products- plus it has more powerful whitening peroxide & tooth 'reconstituting rinse' for after use. The gel can be used supposedly for around 2 years afterwards for 'touch ups'- not a bad deal. Amazon.com: 2 Complete Professional 35% Tooth Whitening Kits with Large 10ml Gels- Optimized Formula By Watts Power White: Health & Personal Care
i bought that weekly clean stuff, didnt figure to use it daily, thought it might be dangerous for the teeth, might do so now. also bought "bevery hills" formula cause the pack made me laugh. it's also contains silica which is basically just small pieces of sand right? and so they act to scrub the enamel away and take the dirt with it?
brazilian guy, what do you think of these silica containing toothpastes?
hey naz, that's a cheap deal you found there, you think that's the same stuff brazilianguy is warning about if you have peridontis?
read about how they used to whiten their teeth in days of old with soot from the chimney, acts the same way silica or baking soda does, though a good bit harsher and not advised.
brazilian guy, what do you think of these silica containing toothpastes?
hey naz, that's a cheap deal you found there, you think that's the same stuff brazilianguy is warning about if you have peridontis?
read about how they used to whiten their teeth in days of old with soot from the chimney, acts the same way silica or baking soda does, though a good bit harsher and not advised.
I think probably all whitening products will hurt if you have peridontal disease, but if Brazil is talking about the bone under hte teeth, a good rinse afterwards should be enough to suffice helping to prevent any further damage to the bone- it's basically bacteria though that damage the bone- peroxide I don't beleive will damage, just gotta be kinda careful not to get the stuff on the gums as it will make sores- but htese usually clear up overnight if htey occure- might be sensitive for a day or so, but being careful, should be able to avoid that- 35% is kinda high peroxide- most are around 20%.
I've been using hte Aquafresh trays, they have lightened the smokers yellow on my teeth abotu 3-4 shades so far- a noticeable difference- but I'm thinking about getting the kit in the link above- I liek hte idea of modable trays, and it seems people who commented on the stuff really liked how good it worked
The soot 'whitening' did indeed act liek a harsh scrub- and only hardwood ashes could be used- softwood ashes didn't contain the right stuff
Scrub whiteners act to take surface stains off- like if ya drink lots of coffee they get a stain on the surface- Enamel is quite tough, but I'd probably only use a scrub toothpaste once a week or so- just to be safe.
I've been using hte Aquafresh trays, they have lightened the smokers yellow on my teeth abotu 3-4 shades so far- a noticeable difference- but I'm thinking about getting the kit in the link above- I liek hte idea of modable trays, and it seems people who commented on the stuff really liked how good it worked
The soot 'whitening' did indeed act liek a harsh scrub- and only hardwood ashes could be used- softwood ashes didn't contain the right stuff
Scrub whiteners act to take surface stains off- like if ya drink lots of coffee they get a stain on the surface- Enamel is quite tough, but I'd probably only use a scrub toothpaste once a week or so- just to be safe.
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well the Colgate once a day has been working a treat for me in the past year,my teeth are now white took a couple of months but the results are impressive.
Naz keep us posted on this thread if you end up giving the Amazon product a go.
interested to hear your results!
Kit
Naz keep us posted on this thread if you end up giving the Amazon product a go.
interested to hear your results!
Kit
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