Anyone recommend this Battery? I use Sony VTC4 30AMP

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I agree with everything that Ryedan said. I've not used them but read good things about this battery. Consider this a 20 amp continuous discharge rate battery (with 35 amps pulse rate). It is an IMR/hybrid which is a high drain and safe chemistry battery.

Since the Sony VTC series of batteries may be discontinued and not available to us vapers, this battery will likely become the recommended replacement unless a newer battery with better stats becomes available.
 

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I have recently picked up 2 of the LG 18650HE2 batteries and am very pleased with the performance. I use them within the 20a rating. These are the cells efest rewraps.

The Samsung INR 18650 25R is also a high quality, 20a battery that performs very well.

I interchange Sony VTC5 batteries, the Samsung and the LG batteries in my mechs and DNA30 devices. All seem to have comparable runtime.

My lowest build is .5 ohms. All three batteries are well within their ratings in my applications.
 
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I agree with everything that Ryedan said. I've not used them but read good things about this battery. Consider this a 20 amp continuous discharge rate battery (with 35 amps pulse rate). It is an IMR/hybrid which is a high drain and safe chemistry battery.

Since the Sony VTC series of batteries may be discontinued and not available to us vapers, this battery will likely become the recommended replacement unless a newer battery with better stats becomes available.

Wait, wait why would they discontinuing something that's selling of their shelves making tons of profit?
 

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Wait, wait why would they discontinuing something that's selling of their shelves making tons of profit?
It was never intended to be sold direct to the consumer.

The VTC# line of batteries are intended for industrial/commercial sale for use in battery packs with built in protections.
 

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It was never intended to be sold direct to the consumer.

The VTC# line of batteries are intended for industrial/commercial sale for use in battery packs with built in protections.

Nah I get that, but in business since its about Profit in the end run, cut throat to make profit. If you are selling them regardless what they are used for profit wise them being sold off the shelves, why would you want to lose money and drop the product. I mean they can do whatever they want, I'm just looking at it from a profit stand point no matter what they are really made for.
 

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Nah I get that, but in business since its about Profit in the end run, cut throat to make profit. If you are selling them regardless what they are used for profit wise them being sold off the shelves, why would you want to lose money and drop the product. I mean they can do whatever they want, I'm just looking at it from a profit stand point no matter what they are really made for.
In a word: Liability?
 

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Liability is the reason I thought of, too.

As number1 said, Sony never intended for these batteries to be sold to consumers. They were designed to be used in large battery packs with protection circuits, automobiles, airliners, etc. If you recall there was a terrible battery explosion on an airliner some time back. It caused a major stink which caused the FFA to shut down an entire group of planes to investigate what happened. The lawyers for the battery companies blocked what the battery companies claimed was proprietary information which could be used against their best interest. Final results of the investigation were blocked from the media.

A Florida man was using a mechanical mod made by a popular US manufacturer when it exploded and blew off his jaw. The man sued the mod manufacturer and now that manufacturer is out of business. Didn't matter that the guy may have been stacking batteries or using the wrong batteries.

Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sanyo have not been keen of us using their batteries for what we are using them for, as they were never intended for this use. We have cloud chasers running 0.1 ohm and lower coils in their mechanical mods. This is pushing these batteries way past their continuous discharge rate. They are an accident waiting to happen.
 
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Liability is the reason I thought of, too.

As number1 said, Sony never intended for these batteries to be sold to consumers. They were designed to be used in large battery packs with protection circuits, automobiles, airliners, etc. If you recall there was a terrible battery explosion on an airliner some time back. It caused a major stink which caused the FFA to shut down an entire group of planes to investigate what happened.

A Florida man was using a mechanical mod made by a popular US manufacturer when it exploded and tore off his jaw. The man sued the mod manufacturer and now that manufacturer is out of business.

Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sanyo have not been keen of us using their batteries for what we are using them for, as they were never intended for this use. We have cloud chasers running 0.1 ohm and lower coils in their mechanical mods. This is pushing these batteries way past their continuous discharge rate. They are an accident waiting to happen.

then if that's the case pull them off, produce a battery for the batteries so you don't lose profit. Either way if it ain't sony, we are going to go to the next battery and next and next. Not like we will stop.
 

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i think the flashlight enthusiasts have a few years on us in this respect, and they are able to test batteries a lot better than the average vaper - same with the RC crowd.

Some of them are talented modders too, so you can see where it's going, but a major manufacturer producing something for our use? Nah.

Our issues centre more about avoiding fakes than anything else.

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Liability is the reason I thought of, too.

As number1 said, Sony never intended for these batteries to be sold to consumers. They were designed to be used in large battery packs with protection circuits, automobiles, airliners, etc. If you recall there was a terrible battery explosion on an airliner some time back. It caused a major stink which caused the FFA to shut down an entire group of planes to investigate what happened. The lawyers for the battery companies blocked what the battery companies claimed was proprietary information which could be used against their best interest. Final results of the investigation were blocked from the media.

A Florida man was using a mechanical mod made by a popular US manufacturer when it exploded and blew off his jaw. The man sued the mod manufacturer and now that manufacturer is out of business. Didn't matter that the guy may have been stacking batteries or using the wrong batteries.

Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sanyo have not been keen of us using their batteries for what we are using them for, as they were never intended for this use. We have cloud chasers running 0.1 ohm and lower coils in their mechanical mods. This is pushing these batteries way past their continuous discharge rate. They are an accident waiting to happen.
Yep. I agree 100%

Btw, the moniker... ever see the movie "Emperor of the North"?

I wish I was as cool as Lee Marvin!
 

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And we'll find a way to heat something like this up.

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