Anyone see blu's statement this morning?

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Sorry I don't have a link but I saw this on their Facebook this morning. They pretty much claimed that ecigs aren't a healthier alternative and is not to recreate the sensation of smoking. So is anyone else confused? I mean their commercials state the exact opposite. Found it kinda fishy. Just my 2 cents.

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I think it is a case of CYA....

ATTN: Please be aware that due to regulatory concerns, blu and many other companies that manufacture electronic cigarettes do not advertise or promote their products for the purpose of smoking cessation or as a healthier alternative to cigarettes. Additional research is being conducted by a variety of third parties regarding these issues. Please do not make such claims in the future when posting to our facebook page.
 

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ATTN: Please be aware that due to regulatory concerns, blu and many other companies that manufacture electronic cigarettes do not advertise or promote their products for the purpose of smoking cessation or as a healthier alternative to cigarettes. Additional research is being conducted by a variety of third parties regarding these issues. Please do not make such claims in the future when posting to our facebook page.

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Sorry I don't have a link but I saw this on their Facebook this morning. They pretty much claimed that ecigs aren't a healthier alternative and is not to recreate the sensation of smoking. So is anyone else confused? I mean their commercials state the exact opposite. Found it kinda fishy. Just my 2 cents.

Good morning and happy Friday! :D

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They are absolutely correct whether anyone here wants to admit it or not .. and I don't think their commercials promote any health improvements .. promotion of health aspects is not allowed by any vendor ..

Of course, vendors don't need to promote health they can just link folks to ECF where private individuals do all the promotion needed ..
 

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They are absolutely correct whether anyone here wants to admit it or not .. and I don't think their commercials promote any health improvements .. promotion of health aspects is not allowed by any vendor ..

Of course, vendors don't need to promote health they can just link folks to ECF where private individuals do all the promotion needed ..

You have a problem with that? Individual members aren't supposed to discuss their own anecdotal experiences related to quitting smoking and vaping?
 

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The fight over it being a smoking cessation was taken care of when the courts ruled it was not a drug delivery device like the patch or gum...and I am glad for that, slowed down the FDA. Because of that ruling they have to insure their product isn't described as such on their site or their face book page for that matter. Like I said just covering their .......
 

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I think it is a case of CYA....

ATTN: Please be aware that due to regulatory concerns, blu and many other companies that manufacture electronic cigarettes do not advertise or promote their products for the purpose of smoking cessation or as a healthier alternative to cigarettes. Additional research is being conducted by a variety of third parties regarding these issues. Please do not make such claims in the future when posting to our facebook page.

In a way. E-cigarettes can't make health claims or deem themselves a smoking cessation device. They're a smoking alternative.
 

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You have a problem with that? Individual members aren't supposed to discuss their own anecdotal experiences related to quitting smoking and vaping?

I think what Uncle Willie is saying is that individual users on an unaffiliated site (ECF) can make all the health claims they want. But the company itself (Blu) can't have those health claims on its site or FB page because according to the gov't it's false.

It's a lot like when I made soap and lotion. You can't put anything on a bar of soap that indicates the ingredients can address a problem otherwise it moves from a cosmetic to a drug. Users can go to a soap making site (oh yes, there are tons) and go on and on and on as much as they like about how emu oil helps cure eczema. You just can't put that on the bar of soap, because if you do your product is suddenly a drug making medicinal claims.
 

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They are absolutely correct whether anyone here wants to admit it or not .. and I don't think their commercials promote any health improvements .. promotion of health aspects is not allowed by any vendor ..

Of course, vendors don't need to promote health they can just link folks to ECF where private individuals do all the promotion needed ..
Could have said this a bit more gently, I think. :) you ARE basically correct. E-cigs and PV s are NOT smoking cessation devices. It has been so ruled by the government. If they were, then they would also be drug delivery devices and could not be sold without physician approval.
And I'm one of those people more than happy to tell people of how much my health has improved since I started using a PV :D
 

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You have a problem with that? Individual members aren't supposed to discuss their own anecdotal experiences related to quitting smoking and vaping?

ECF is a source of information .. some right, some wrong .. just like any forum .. that's the American way .. if members choose to tout their anecdotal health claims, why would I have a problem with that .. ?? I am, after all, using a PV myself ..

The point is, a vendor cannot use health claims as a method to sell .. many on the forum, however, do it for 'em .. so, in a backdoor way, users are lead to believe it's a "healthy" alternative .. however, IMO, the jury is still out on that aspect ..

Ask me again in 20 years when long term information by both users and science is available ..
 

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The fight over it being a smoking cessation was taken care of when the courts ruled it was not a drug delivery device like the patch or gum...and I am glad for that, slowed down the FDA. Because of that ruling they have to insure their product isn't described as such on their site or their face book page for that matter. Like I said just covering their .......

Thank goodness you clarified that!! When I saw "CYA" I was reading text speak of "See Ya!" not "cover your [posterior]"
 

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ATTN: Please be aware that due to regulatory concerns, blu and many other companies that manufacture electronic cigarettes do not advertise or promote their products for the purpose of smoking cessation or as a healthier alternative to cigarettes. Additional research is being conducted by a variety of third parties regarding these issues. Please do not make such claims in the future when posting to our facebook page.

Blu is just being honest. They didn't make me not want to smoke haha. Give me my Evic on 8 watts with a nova though and some Tennessee Cured and I say it replicates smoking pretty darn well.
 

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In a way. E-cigarettes can't make health claims or deem themselves a smoking cessation device. They're a smoking alternative.
That is kind of a technicality definition. :blink: It's all attorney mumbo jumbo geared for the benefit and best interests of the people with the thickest wallet and also with the most to lose from e-cigs, Big Pharmaceutical.

I DID in fact CEASE smoking cigarettes. I no long consider myself a smoker. I am smoke and tobacco free.

But in return I am using an e-cigarette as a smoking alternative or alternative nicotine delivery device.
 
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But...as was pointed out in previous posts...a vendor/manufacturer (here in the U.S. at least) can NOT say they are a "smoking cessation device" or make any health claims without getting in to trouble (possibly..if reported). They can't have their customers saying it either on their FB page because by not contradicting the poster's comments, they could be perceived as agreeing. So that is why they put that disclaimer on their FB page. It's just a simple thing really. Legal considerations. That's all.
 

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I'd think a vendor would want to avoid the claims of comparing it to another known product (in this case analogs). Cause it takes just one instance of that not working for there to be some sort of lawsuit pending.

Most of us call what we do vaping. I think I saw on the Blu site that they call it 'smoking.' My point is that we are using vaporizers, not cigarettes, not eCigs. Yet, as that name isn't likely to change or be removed from the lexicon anytime soon, then we've made our bed and have to sleep in it as long as that is the paradigm being put forth.

Comparing your vaporizing product to other vaporizing products makes sense, I think.
Comparing and contrasting it to smoking, makes about as much sense as comparing / contrasting it to drinking, eating (nicotine).

If simply went with a slogan of "it works" - the indirect message would be there (works to cut down / cut out smoking) and is positive way of putting things.
 
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