Anyone tried the eGo Mini?

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Oh I forgot to ask, does anyone know if the smoktech 350 batts are unregulated or regulated? Havent used mine yet, waiting on cartos..

I'm almost absolutely certain that they are unregulated. Or at least the ST ones I have are. I've got several 3.4v regulated ego clones and the Smoktech minis definitely hit a lot harder (when fresh off the charger) when comparing the two. They also have the normal performance curve of an unregulated battery where you can feel the performance slowly degrade on a constant basis until it's dead.
 

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I'm almost absolutely certain that they are unregulated. Or at least the ST ones I have are. I've got several 3.4v regulated ego clones and the Smoktech minis definitely hit a lot harder (when fresh off the charger) when comparing the two. They also have the normal performance curve of an unregulated battery where you can feel the performance slowly degrade on a constant basis until it's dead.

cool thanks.
 

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I tested out my new stealth setup tonight for the first time. Every Thursday, for the past 15 years, I've gone out for dinner and drinks with the guys. We always meet around 7:00pm and leave around 10:00pm.

I was aiming to build a sub-4" setup so I went about picking the battery, cartos and drip tip to achieve this goal. What I came up with was a setup that turned out to be only three inches long! It turned out that the drip tip was completely unnecessary with the Super Shorty's from madvapes. I wanted black but they only had clear ones in stock at the time I ordered.

Since I was field testing a completely new setup, I took plenty of backups of course - extra 650mah eGo battery, a full Stardust, and even a small bottle of juice for refilling...total overkill but you know how it goes. I didn't need any of that stuff. I used the Stardust on my way down to the restaurant but I could have easily done without it.

So, all I need to take in the future is my 350mah Mini and two Super Shorty cartos! The components should last quite a while since I'll only use this particular setup once a week for about three hours.

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One thing that I dont understand about thhe ego mini's and especially about the 350mah ones, and this isnt just about ego mini's but about all lower mah batteries.
Have I missed some information here cause the word used to be that you cant use low resistant anything on any battery under 650mah, but the ego mini's are being sold with 1.7ohm cartos.
I thought standard res was 2.8-3ohm for use under 650mah , but some are now saying the limit is 400, and then others are pairing things such as the 350mah minis with LR. And Halo sells something like 2ohm for their 808's and Im using LR (wow carts) on 808 batts from v4l sooo, what did I miss??

Lol. Me too. I must have missed something. I like my LR cartos and atties and have been using them on my little batteries for a long time. In fact, 3 years ago it was all the rage to use LR atomizers on 901 batteries. They were MADE to use on the mini batteries. I believe they were only 180mAh. I just use whatever suits me and don't worry one little jot about the new so called charts and all that jazz.
 

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Lol. Me too. I must have missed something. I like my LR cartos and atties and have been using them on my little batteries for a long time. In fact, 3 years ago it was all the rage to use LR atomizers on 901 batteries. They were MADE to use on the mini batteries. I believe they were only 180mAh. I just use whatever suits me and don't worry one little jot about the new so called charts and all that jazz.

Wow, we have been getting vastly different info. I was basically schooled in the class of 2010 that if you were to use a LR atty or carto on a 180mah (ya, old school stuff there lol) it would fry at best and blow up at worst. Now Im totally rethinking where the line of truth actually begins. I dont know what the gospel was in 2009 but geeez. I wonder if the cells in certain batteries can just handle things better now or if the "LR only on at least 650mah" was way oversimplfied or just incorrect. I dunno, Im lost... Please dont blow up on me cause I can only use LR lol.
 

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I tested out my new stealth setup tonight for the first time. Every Thursday, for the past 15 years, I've gone out for dinner and drinks with the guys. We always meet around 7:00pm and leave around 10:00pm.

I was aiming to build a sub-4" setup so I went about picking the battery, cartos and drip tip to achieve this goal. What I came up with was a setup that turned out to be only three inches long! It turned out that the drip tip was completely unnecessary with the Super Shorty's from madvapes. I wanted black but they only had clear ones in stock at the time I ordered.

Since I was field testing a completely new setup, I took plenty of backups of course - extra 650mah eGo battery, a full Stardust, and even a small bottle of juice for refilling...total overkill but you know how it goes. I didn't need any of that stuff. I used the Stardust on my way down to the restaurant but I could have easily done without it.

So, all I need to take in the future is my 350mah Mini and two Super Shorty cartos! The components should last quite a while since I'll only use this particular setup once a week for about three hours.

ego_mini.jpg

Its a sweet little set up isnt it!
 

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One thing that I dont understand about thhe ego mini's and especially about the 350mah ones, and this isnt just about ego mini's but about all lower mah batteries.
Have I missed some information here cause the word used to be that you cant use low resistant anything on any battery under 650mah, but the ego mini's are being sold with 1.7ohm cartos.
I thought standard res was 2.8-3ohm for use under 650mah , but some are now saying the limit is 400, and then others are pairing things such as the 350mah minis with LR. And Halo sells something like 2ohm for their 808's and Im using LR (wow carts) on 808 batts from v4l sooo, what did I miss??

i think the rule to not use any LR stuff on lower mah batts is referring to stick batts, like KR808s. the mini ego is very much the same as its bigger siblings, able to handle LR, but just chopped down in size.
of course the less LR you use, the longer lifetime your batt will have. charging your batt often (not ever depleting it 100%) and not overcharging your batt are other ways to keep you batt lifetime expectancy as long as possible.
 

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Oh I forgot to ask, does anyone know if the smoktech 350 batts are unregulated or regulated? Havent used mine yet, waiting on cartos..

the smoktech ones are unregulated. they charge up to 4v, and die around 3.3 or so.
well, the two smoktek ones i got from madvapes are unregulated.
i also have 2 from Crystal Clear and they are unregulated as well. charge up to 4v. tested on my meter.
i have a 5th one too but i cant remember where i got it. hoosier maybe. same deal with that one.
 

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Its a sweet little set up isnt it!

It really is - I couldn't happier! By not using a drip tip to get down to the 3" length works okay too. The vape is a little warmer, which I don't really mind, but I still don't get any liquid in my mouth. This is going to work out quite nicely for my Thursday night outings. I'll be ordering another 350 Mini and a couple more shorty cartos soon just so I have backups at the ready :)
 

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One thing that I dont understand about thhe ego mini's and especially about the 350mah ones, and this isnt just about ego mini's but about all lower mah batteries.
Have I missed some information here cause the word used to be that you cant use low resistant anything on any battery under 650mah, but the ego mini's are being sold with 1.7ohm cartos.
I thought standard res was 2.8-3ohm for use under 650mah , but some are now saying the limit is 400, and then others are pairing things such as the 350mah minis with LR. And Halo sells something like 2ohm for their 808's and Im using LR (wow carts) on 808 batts from v4l sooo, what did I miss??

The main issue "back in the day" (2010-ish) was that "stick" type batteries were not recommended for LR due to the stress pulling those amps from the battery has on the batt itself.

Part of this (at least with the ego minis) has been alleviated by the different construction used to get your 350,400,450 mAh capacity.

Most LiON batteries (and related chemistries) are created by taking three main parts: an anode, cathode and a separator, and rolling them together, spiral-style with the separator between the anode/cathode (the positive/negative portions of the cell).

The stick batteries can only be wrapped so far until they reach 808/510 stick diameter, while the ego style and larger-diameter batteries have more "wraps" in the material.

The voltage stays at the same 3.7V (dictated by the Lithium chemistry), and the larger size offers greater mAh capacity. Capacity can be increased by making the spiral longer, or (more effectively) make the spiral thicker. Both thicker and longer provide the maximum benefit. This basic construction goes all the way up to the 28650 batts (used in the Tesla Roadster as well as the biggest mods I've seen).

The side benefit of the larger diameter batteries is it will help with the current capabilities (its "resilience" for lack of a better term). More folds mean the cell has to work "less hard" to get higher amps out to a LR carto/atty.

It doesn't mean that stick batteries wont' work with LR devices, but you will be "working" them far out of their comfort zone. Continued use with LR cartos on stick batts will lead to shortened life of the battery (fast discharge will eventually overtax the cells ability to hold a charge).

All LiON batteries should be prevented from reaching complete discharge, as opposed to NiMH batteries. By design LiON doesn't exhibit "memory" like the old NiCd cells used to, so topping off a nearly-full battery is preferred to taking it to near-deth and recharging (over the long haul).

This is the main reason why so many were discouraged from using LR on sticks. Its nigh impossible to routinely run LR on one of the 808/510 stick batts without completely discharging them, which led to premature deth.

The mini batts, even though they have a similar mAh capacity as larger stick batts are more resilient when large current draws (LR) are applied, due to the greater number of "wraps" in their construction. Heavy LR use with mini ego batts will also shorten their lives, but not as fast as when using 808/510 stick style.

Sorry for the novella, hope this helps.
 
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OOPS! sorry.. Didnt mean to make y'all tilt your heads or rotate your screens :blush:
here ya go!
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Awesome little device, which micro DCT did you end up using? Is it using a 1.7 shorty carto? or just a regular sized carto and just looks short next to the bigger tank on the 1300mAh batt?
 
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