Anyone try the laser slotted Boge's?

[hazozita]

Saw these on the SureVapes site and was wondering if anyone has tried them yet:

Boge 510 XL LR Stainless (Laser Slotted) - (1 box)

The slot looks huge! I'd be concerned about flooding issues, but have not been able to find any reviews as to performance.

 

[Samurai Seven]

I just came across these myself as I am carto shopping! I had to look twice to make sure I was seeing their product listings correctly. They have laser punched AND laser slotted. I am considering getting some!

 

[New2vaps]

Never heard of slotted cartos before. Interesting

From what I have read about Boges is that they take longer to fill because they are more dense. This might help the filling and wicking faster. I would also be interested to hear any reviews of someone who used them.

 

[john333]

I think your best bet for a slotted carto would be a liquid with high VG. Maybe 70/30 vg/pg. I use 60/40 pg/vg and don't have many flooding issues with boge 2hole single coil xl's. For filling I use the longer rubber piece and fill it just over half way then slowly push the cart down. You should see some liquid rise to the top of the filler. Put it in a tank and fill. Let it sit for at least 30 minutes before using. One hour if you have time/patience. Good luck

 

[90quattrocoupe]

I slot my own Boges with a jewelers file and I have found it works better than punching two holes or drilling two holes.

Greg W.

 

[State O' Flux]

Interesting. Like most of you, I'd be a little concerned using these with high PG liquid... so I ordered some LR, in both lengths, to find out. Worst case is they flood and I can only use them with high VG.

If you don't see any reviews between now and then, I'll post one after I try them out.

Cheers,
C

 

[hazozita]

Interesting. Like most of you, I'd be a little concerned using these with high PG liquid... so I ordered some LR, in both lengths, to find out. Worst case is they flood and I can only use them with high VG.

If you don't see any reviews between now and then, I'll post one after I try them out.

Cheers,
C

Look forward to hearing how they work out for you!

 

[State O' Flux]

Look forward to hearing how they work out for you!

It'd be great if they prime fast, vape like crazy and don't flood with like an 80PG/20VG... but I'm not holding my breath. ;-)

 

[john333]

I slot my own Boges with a jewelers file and I have found it works better than punching two holes or drilling two holes.

Greg W.

not familiar with a jewelers file. can you please explain.

 

[90quattrocoupe]

not familiar with a jewelers file. can you please explain.

Jewelers files are very small files. I leave the condoms on, slide down the lower one, mark the place I want to file, and then use the edge of a flat file to make the slot. The slot I come up with is about 3/16 to a 1/4 long in circumference. I use one of the oval shaped files to clean up the edges so they are not sharp. This would tear up lower o-ring, if I didn't. Even then, on a Phiniac tank, I have to punch or drill. The o-rings on a Phiniac tank are so tight, the slot still damages o-rings. They don't on other tanks.
This slotting works for me with any kind of juice. I have used 100/0, 70/30, 55/50 and 20/80. I don't get any flooding.

Here is a picture of the kind of files I use.



I use the condom method for filling. I only use XL 2.2 boge carto. It takes about three 3/4 full long condoms to fill an XL carto. After the juice bubbles over the top of the center tube, I add a little air pressure to the top of the carto. This forces the juice back down into the filler. I do this thru three 3/4 fills on the condom. When it starts to come out the slot, I know I am close to having a fully primed carto. I hold my finger over the slot to get the juice past it. Always works for me.

Greg W.

 

[Samurai Seven]

Jewelers files are very small files. I leave the condoms on, slide down the lower one, mark the place I want to file, and then use the edge of a flat file to make the slot. The slot I come up with is about 3/16 to a 1/4 long in circumference. I use one of the oval shaped files to clean up the edges so they are not sharp. This would tear up lower o-ring, if I didn't. Even then, on a Phiniac tank, I have to punch or drill. The o-rings on a Phiniac tank are so tight, the slot still damages o-rings. They don't on other tanks.
This slotting works for me with any kind of juice. I have used 100/0, 70/30, 55/50 and 20/80. I don't get any flooding.

Here is a picture of the kind of files I use.

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I use the condom method for filling. I only use XL 2.2 boge carto. It takes about three 3/4 full long condoms to fill an XL carto. After the juice bubbles over the top of the center tube, I add a little air pressure to the top of the carto. This forces the juice back down into the filler. I do this thru three 3/4 fills on the condom. When it starts to come out the slot, I know I am close to having a fully primed carto. I hold my finger over the slot to get the juice past it. Always works for me.

Greg W.

This sounds quite interesting! So you're using the jewelers files to slot the carto instead of something like a dremel? More or less you're sawing a slot into the carto with a file if I am understanding you correctly? I would think that'd be really tough to do by hand on a steel carto? Any videos of this process floating around the Interwebs? Where would someone get these jewelers files from? I have been considering getting a rotary tool to slot my own cartos as the 80VG/20PG eliquid I like in my carto tanks (HHV Heavenly Tobacco!) is almost like honey in viscosity. Might using a file be easier and less costly (and also easier to do indoors in an apartment?)

Thanks!

 

[90quattrocoupe]

This sounds quite interesting! So you're using the jewelers files to slot the carto instead of something like a dremel? More or less you're sawing a slot into the carto with a file if I am understanding you correctly? I would think that'd be really tough to do by hand on a steel carto? Any videos of this process floating around the Interwebs? Where would someone get these jewelers files from? I have been considering getting a rotary tool to slot my own cartos as the 80VG/20PG eliquid I like in my carto tanks (HHV Heavenly Tobacco!) is almost like honey in viscosity. Might using a file be easier and less costly (and also easier to do indoors in an apartment?)

Thanks!

I didn't have a Dremel, but I had jewelers files. It worked the first time I tried it, so stayed with it. Besides, I have a little more control over how long the slot is. Basically, sawing a slot in the carto. Not all that difficult. You have to remember that this is Stainless, so is much softer than regular steel, except for rebar. No videos, that I know of. I may be a first, I don't know. I was just trying one day to think about how to slot a carto, without buying a Dremel. I even debated a hack saw, with one of those small holder for the blade. Ended up with a file.

Just do a search on google for Jewelers files. That is where I got the picture from. Don't buy China, as they will not last. Get either USA, German or Swedish.

Yea, it is a lot easier to slot cartos with a file in an Apt.

You know, for the heavier VG juices, I fill up a little container with really hot water. I stick my glass eye dropper bottle in it, let is sit for minute, then prime my cartos. Makes the juice flow a little easier.

Greg W.

 

[mrwilliams2]

No leaking with 70/30 juice for me. They wick great.

 

[Samurai Seven]

Well my new laser slotted Boge cartos arrived Friday afternoon. I got a box of both regular length and XL length SR cartos. I loaded a primed XL carto into my also brand new AGR carto tank, filled it up with some 80VG/20PG HHV Heavenly Tobacco....and it leaked like a faucet. I initially thought it may be the AGR tank itself as there is at least one ECF thread describing the disasters and frustrations people are having with those things. I was believing I was becoming one of the many who basically bought a $14 paper weight as all of the eliquid leaked out of mine twice. After realizing that the leaking was coming from the 510 connection I was thinking that maybe the carto was getting flooded and wasn't an issue with the tank. I was sort of stuck and very frustrated as these pre slotted cartos appealed to me specifically because my Heavenly Tobacco is USUALLY too thick and honey like for any carto I've tried (Boge LR XL flanged cartos in a Boge F16 tank) that only had 2 pre punched holes it in. The pre punched holes appear to be too small and were not allowing the eliquid to get into the carto and saturate it adequately, hence I was burning up cartos. I borrowed a dremel from someone a few weeks ago and turned the pre punched holes into slots on a few cartos and THAT seemed to work for Heavenly Tobacco. The downside being that I am in an apartment and really don't want to run a dremel indoors and have the mess that comes from cutting stainless steel cartos with it. I had been pricing out rotary tools online when I saw the pre slotted Boges and thought they sounded like a great fix for my situation and immediately ordered some as this would in theory solve my slotting problem and NOT require me to get a dremel or other rotary tool. Anyway, it appears that this particular bottle of Heavenly Tobacco just isn't the same consistency as usual and is a bit thinner, so this brings us back to the new pre slotted cartos flooding. I was thinking about this last night and an idea came to me...what if I cut the closed end off of one the the clear rubber "condoms" that come on the carto and make it into a tube to slide down over the carto before I fill the tank with eliquid and cover part of the slot up (there is only one slot in these cartos BTW and it's cut in vertically not horizontally) to control how much eliquid it's allowed to draw in. So far - works GREAT! I covered about half of the slot up and have been using it since last night without issue. No more flooding or leaking and I'd say I've "smoked" about half of the tank now. What also seems handy is that this rubber slot cover will allow me to adjust how much of the slot is exposed or covered as needed. Still flooding? Slide the cover down the carto a bit more to cover up more of the slot, etc. Obviously a bit of a hassle to do if the carto is full of eliquid, and some cartos tanks may be more difficult to get open to get the rubber tube onto the carto after you've already inserted it into one end of the tank. This isn't really an issue on the AGR tank as they have the nice screw cap tops for easy access.

At the time of this post I would say I am pretty happy with these pre slotted cartos. The rubber tube seems to have fixed my flooding issue. Better to have a slot too large that you can cover up and/or adjust as needed as opposed to not having slots or holes large enough and having to screw around with making them larger. Based on my experience with them thus far, I would think that using thinner eliquids in these cartos could very possibly lead to flooding if you're not covering up part of the pre cut slot as it seems pretty large to me. These may work better with thicker eliquids that require a larger opening in the carto to properly saturate the carto filler, and thinner eliquids may be better in a carto with smaller holes punched into it. YMMV. Although, they could also possibly be a good "one size fits all eliquids" carto if you're ok with adjusting how much of the carto slot is exposed based on the viscosity of the eliquid you want to use with it. That is the direction I may be going in with these. We shall see.

My apologies for the length of this post, I tend to be rather verbose! Any feedback and/or thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

[nicetucu]

Yeah I tried one slotted carto as a freebie from surevapes.com on a boge xl LR punched carto order. I'm always thankful for free stuff so I checked it out and used it in a tank of Gorilla Juice with a cheapie boge plastic carto tank (which I really love cause it hardly weighs anything). Works great on anything, but great on an Ego Twist (not top heavy at all like a pro tank).

I don't like them that much lol. It leaked too much.... the slot goes vertical instead of horizontal. It tasted great at the beginning, but not so much at a quarter tank.

What I do now is buy the punched boge XL LR carto's and slot them with a dremel. I thought , hey I have this dremel sitting around and not using it much (xmas present) so why not. Use the tiny hole as my marker and did two horizontal slots and bob's your uncle. Work fantastic and no leaking.

Just remember guys, wear safety glasses and put something down to catch the metal dust from shavings.

 

[RooRooBears]

I, too, was given a free laser slotted carto from SureVapes.com and I'll be honest here - not a fan. I love my self-punched XL SR Boges because you can wick it to the last drop since the holes are drilled at the bottom part of the carto. These laser slotted cartos have a vertical slit that easily wick BUT I feel I'm not getting the same throat hit and flavor as I would from my punched cartos. I could have gotten a slightly defaulted laser slotted boge carto but this carto typ didn't work out for me. Just my

 

[Thepinfamily]

Ive had good luck with the lazer slotted cartos. I use several HHV juices, all %70pg. Never had a leaking issue. One neet thing about them is they can prime themselves. If im filling tanks for the next day I stick a dry carto in, fill and leave till morning. The huge slot sucks up all the juice. By morning the tank is half empty. I just top off the tanks and go.

 

[hazozita]

I started this thread a few weeks ago in the hopes that others would provide their findings on the slotted cartos. Thank you to all who did so – very much appreciated, and good info on the pros and cons.

But, there’s no replacement for first-hand experience, so I got a box of the XL slotted SR. So far I’m pleased with them. Boge is what I use most often (usually the F16 version). Good carto; major pain in the .... to get them primed since the tight fill makes it slow to take on juice. The slotted, however, were much easier to fill. Not as easy as Smok, but nearly so.

That got me concerned about flooding since I usually vape 70/30. So far no problems provided that I stick to smaller tanks. Using them in a VVV standard tank (6 ml) worked great. Wicked well, good flavor, zero flooding. On my third refill and so far it’s going strong.

I did get some flooding when using it in a larger tank (the 8ml jumbo). Not horrible, but I did need to invert and blow through once to get the flooding cleared out. I’m guessing that the larger tank volume has greater pressure to force in more juice? Total guess on my part.

I also tried some 100%VG that I had sitting around and that worked very well -- much better than using it with an F16.

So far the results are good enough to warrant picking up a few more boxes.

 

[A_666_K9]

Well my new laser slotted Boge cartos arrived Friday afternoon. I got a box of both regular length and XL length SR cartos. I loaded a primed XL carto into my also brand new AGR carto tank, filled it up with some 80VG/20PG HHV Heavenly Tobacco....and it leaked like a faucet. I initially thought it may be the AGR tank itself as there is at least one ECF thread describing the disasters and frustrations people are having with those things. I was believing I was becoming one of the many who basically bought a $14 paper weight as all of the eliquid leaked out of mine twice. After realizing that the leaking was coming from the 510 connection I was thinking that maybe the carto was getting flooded and wasn't an issue with the tank.
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I was thinking about this last night and an idea came to me...what if I cut the closed end off of one the the clear rubber "condoms" that come on the carto and make it into a tube to slide down over the carto before I fill the tank with eliquid and cover part of the slot up (there is only one slot in these cartos BTW and it's cut in vertically not horizontally) to control how much eliquid it's allowed to draw in.

Going to have to try this one... I'm having the SAME issues with the AGR+ tank and the laser slotted cartos... thats with vaping a 50/50 juice

 

[Bud Man]

Got some in yesterday so far working great with 30/70 PG/VG