Anything NOT to put on a SB?

[trickxiii]

Hi, I'm new to the SB. Literally just received it today with 2 18650 UltraFire 2600 3.7's. I'm SUPER pumped to use it, except I have one little problem. Paranoia. I'm not sure if I shouldn't use a certain type of atty, tank, clearo or carto with it. I've done some research and folks sure get creative but I'm hoping i'm not missing something obvious. All of my hardware is from Altsmoke, because well they're just so gosh darn awesome. I have the CE3 Cartomizers, the 510 LRs, the Vision V3 clearomizer 2ml, and some standard 510 attys that came with my ego starter kit.

Are all of these okay to use?

Follow up question: Any highly recommended tops for the SB with this battery? I don't want to stack or use any battery except what altsmoke recommends (again, paranoia). But I'm curious if anyone has high preferences for certain SB attachments.

Thanks!

 

[VpnDrgn]

Welcome to the SB family. It is a great mod and it is built like a tank.

Any carto or atty device should work fine. The one exception I have seen is the Vivi Nova.
The vivi nova is a CE3 style "tank" that has replaceable wick and coil "heads".
The threaded connection is a little too long and has a tendency to short out the SB.
Most "protected" li-ion batts should protect against this, and the SB has what is called
a "hot spring". This means the spring will collapse, and therefore break the connection,
if there is a short.

I was using an "IMR" battery that is designed with a higher discharge rate, and will
give "full power" (4.2v) through most of the discharge cycle and then drop off quickly
at the end. Whereas, a regular li-ion batt tends to drop off steadily through the entire cycle.
I speak from personal experience with the vivi nova. The first time I tried to use one on my SB
the spring collapsed as designed, but the batt did get hot enough to fry the outer covering
around the neg end, so I disposed of the batt to be on the safe side.

I am not sure what you are referring to with the "tops" mentioned in your follow up question.
As far as stacking batts go, the general consensus lately seems to be that it is not safe enough to
warrant use, especially since there is a growing number of ways to get higher voltage and/or
variable voltage from a single battery.

Many people use the ultrafire and other generic brands of batteries, but the "AW" brand is considered
to be the best and most reliable, especially for "IMR" type batts. Always make sure to use "protected"
batteries ( built in circuitry for protection against shorts or over/under charging ). If you decide to try
"IMR" batts, I would recommend only AW brand IMR's. IMR's are considered a "safe chemistry" batt
and do not have built in circuitry protection, I would not trust the generic brands.

 

[Baditude]

Here's a collective effort on the best-looking tanks to use on a Silver Bullet.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/318396-tank-bolt-silver-bullett.html

 

[trickxiii]

Thanks guys, very helpful!

 

[Baditude]

Another gadget that you can try are the humongous XXXXL Smokteck dual coil cartomizers. AltSmoke sells these. They hold between 4-5 ml, so they hold as much as a carto tank. Filled like any other smaller cartomizer.

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If you don't drip, it can be hard testing out trial sizes of juices from new vendors with a cartomizer. If you end up not liking the juice, you'll probably end up throwing that carto away, as its really cumbersome to try to clean cartomizers because of the polyfill.

The ce2/ce3 devices below are perfect for this task. They only hold about 1 ml of juice (about all you need to know if you like a new flavor), there's no polyfill like a carto has that could alter the taste, they are clear to be able to judge the viscosity of the juice, and best of all they are relatively re-usable. If you don't like the flavor, remove it and rinse with water, then refill with the next flavor. Pretty cheap too - about $10 for a 5-pack.

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An easy to fill tank are the Vivi Nova clearo tanks. Smoktech has their own version that I feel is a moderate improvement. It's the Smok Titan or Screw Tank. Holds around 4 ml of juice, is easy to fill by simply unscrewing the top, and there's no cartomizer to mess with. Comes with a couple of replacable atomizer heads. Tube is polypropylene, not polycarbonate, so no juices will cause it to crack.

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[trickxiii]

I guess by 'tops' I meant anything that screws into the top of the battery haha. Cartos, clearos, attys, tanks, etc.

So it sounds like a tank is the way to go on an SB? I have some of the smoktech mega dual coil cartos for my ego and they're awesome, especially for pocket carrying my ego. It's what I bring to work. The SB is more of a stay-at-home apparatus for me. Should I invest in a carto punch? Any advice in terms of cartos for the tanks?

 

[VpnDrgn]

If you like the Smoktech DC cartos, then you should like the Smokteck DC cartos for tanks.
They come already punched in 1,2, or 3 hole configurations and will fit any carto tank.
They also come in single coil. There is a Smoktech DCT ( dual coil tank ), but it does not react
well to some juices. Most people who use tanks are switching to Pyrex tanks.
They can be a little more expensive, but are safe with all juices.

Smoktech DC tank carto

Smoktech single coil carto

Smoktech DCT

OCD pyrex tank ( tube and caps are ordered separately, very reasonable price but not a very high juice capacity )

 

[trickxiii]

Awesome stuff.

I'm ordering a Titan from gotvapes right now and I'll probably be picking up a Phiniac tank with DC cartos after friday when I get paid!

Thanks for the advice!

 

[Baditude]

When you order your Phiniac tank, you might look into their tank accessory tools, too.

Although presently I prefer buying pre-punched cartos, it's always handy to have a carto punch around should you need to make a larger hole for an especially thick juice. Phiniac sells the siam mods tank filling tool. I don't personally recommend that one, preferring the one sold by Big Daddy Vapors, called the Slap yo Momma accessory tool, having it is better than none at all. Using it will cut down your tank filling time down by half, helps prevent getting juice accidentally into the airhole of the carto, and protects the rubber o-rings in the tank's endcaps from the sharp edges on the end of the carto. Be sure to watch the demo videos on how to use the tools and assemble/fill a carto tank.

I have several of the Smoktech Titan tanks. They are easy to fill, and the polypropylene tubing is safe to use for any juice known to crack polycarbonate tanks. Good choice.

 

[ohiomelody]

Quite a few of the units we've been getting back for repair have been crushed insulators due to using the vivi nova tank or adapters.