Are these going to be out-lawed?
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I surely hope not.......I too am just getting started and loving not having to look for a lighter to get my "fix". 
No seriously im not sure if they will or not. Noone is. There is alot of reading you can do though. I think it will be banned from public places like cigs are now though. Theres still NIC in juice ... And their trying to classify it as a tobacco product. There is lab made NIC not from a plant, but I hear it costs so much people cant afford it. (I think im correct ... Please forgive me and correct if not)
tobacco
noun, plural to·bac·cos, to·bac·coes.
1.
any of several plants belonging to the genus Nicotiana, of the nightshade family, especially one of those species, as N. tabacum, whose leaves are prepared for smoking or chewing or as snuff.
2.
the prepared leaves, as used in cigarettes, cigars, and pipes.
3.
any product or products made from such leaves.
4.
any of various similar plants of other genera.
Seems like a vague definition. Politicians etc .. Twist words all around and noone understands what their saying anymore.
tobacco
noun, plural to·bac·cos, to·bac·coes.
1.
any of several plants belonging to the genus Nicotiana, of the nightshade family, especially one of those species, as N. tabacum, whose leaves are prepared for smoking or chewing or as snuff.
2.
the prepared leaves, as used in cigarettes, cigars, and pipes.
3.
any product or products made from such leaves.
4.
any of various similar plants of other genera.
Seems like a vague definition. Politicians etc .. Twist words all around and noone understands what their saying anymore.
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They're not going to ban e-cigs. Soon, the FDA will classify them, formally, as tobacco products. At that point, they'll impose some regulations. They may be as strict as for cigarettes, or not. The individual states, as well as the feds, will decide what taxes to impose after the tobacco lobbyists tell them how high to tax them. The worst that will happen is that they'll be treated just like cigarettes, including indoor bans and mail order bans. A lot of that has to do with the lawmakers in each individual state.
Some state politicians will get up and grandstand about banning them, but it won't happen. Even if it did, as soon as the FDA classifies them as tobacco products, any law that bans them would be instantly struck down. States cannot ban tobacco products.
As long as they can't ban the sale of batteries, wire, flashlights, food flavorings, PG or VG, there's little to worry about. There are other sources of nicotine if they get stupid about it and try to impose ridiculous taxes on juice.
They can make vaping less convenient and more expensive, but they can't stop it.
Some state politicians will get up and grandstand about banning them, but it won't happen. Even if it did, as soon as the FDA classifies them as tobacco products, any law that bans them would be instantly struck down. States cannot ban tobacco products.
As long as they can't ban the sale of batteries, wire, flashlights, food flavorings, PG or VG, there's little to worry about. There are other sources of nicotine if they get stupid about it and try to impose ridiculous taxes on juice.
They can make vaping less convenient and more expensive, but they can't stop it.
Who knows what the nanny state will do. I will leave the speculation to the political and legal experts. All I know is that there are too many people making decisions for my own good.
At present, we are truly living in the wild-wild-west time period of vaping; before FDA regulation. You will tell your grandkids about this.
I've always wanted live in the wild west. lol I truly hope the government drags their feet like the usually do. I'm sinking quite a bit of a cash into an ecig store and hoping I'm getting in early enough to make a good profit before the government gets its cut. Its not all about the money though. I have seen ecigs change lives, including mine and those of many I love.
Very good question! I'm still a bit skeptical when it comes to big brother, big tobacco buying off the lobbyist and putting our online orders on hold for a undetermined amount of time. So I stocked up with 3 500ml bottles of nic and awaiting my Zen mini to come available so i can at least rebuild and coast until the dust settles...
Summarized: Will it matter?
The long bit: In all honesty, banning will be ineffective. Up here in Canadialand nic+ juice is banned by Health Canada and there's very little between me and local suppliers. It may involve another step to order, you won't be able to drive down to the market and buy them, but it won't be impossible. The main issue with expecting "prohibition" to work is:
Firstly, tobacco products and smoking in general is still legal and quite prevalent.
Secondly, Ecigs and juice are already on the market, people are already able to get the raw ingredients and hardware through perfectly legal means. People are already building completely custom kits. What will they do? Ban li-on batteries and bits of coiled wire?
The floodgates have already been opened, some of us have been stuck with alternatives that haven't worked for decades. Most vapers I've seen here, like me, are long time smokers who've tried many times to stop, using every trick in the book. Some of us have found vaping to be an almost perfect solution to what is inarguably a health/financial problem. A ban won't stop me, even if forced to attempt imports and seizures at customs, there's no way I'm going back to tobacco.
The long bit: In all honesty, banning will be ineffective. Up here in Canadialand nic+ juice is banned by Health Canada and there's very little between me and local suppliers. It may involve another step to order, you won't be able to drive down to the market and buy them, but it won't be impossible. The main issue with expecting "prohibition" to work is:
Firstly, tobacco products and smoking in general is still legal and quite prevalent.
Secondly, Ecigs and juice are already on the market, people are already able to get the raw ingredients and hardware through perfectly legal means. People are already building completely custom kits. What will they do? Ban li-on batteries and bits of coiled wire?
The floodgates have already been opened, some of us have been stuck with alternatives that haven't worked for decades. Most vapers I've seen here, like me, are long time smokers who've tried many times to stop, using every trick in the book. Some of us have found vaping to be an almost perfect solution to what is inarguably a health/financial problem. A ban won't stop me, even if forced to attempt imports and seizures at customs, there's no way I'm going back to tobacco.
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Will you tell me how its legal for you to get it in canada? What hoops you are jumping through etc?
I bet the only thing that happens is that they tax nicotine liquid, to a point where DIY becomes a LOT cheaper, in my opinion. The government's all about money, so just be prepared for the cost of liquid to possibly rise in the future. I bet it will still be cheaper than smoking though! Even if it's not, I'm NOT touching another cigarette. They smell disgusting to me at this point (3 months in). I quit the same day i got my Kgo starter kit! Fact is, e-cig's work, where as gum and patches just don't (or, didn't...for me).
Health Canada doesn't make law, so while nic+ is banned for sale/import/advertising without market authorization, you won't be arrested for having them. As far as I know they send a letter informing you to stop selling, not sure what happens beyond that point if anything. I'd probably just open up a new online shop. In fact, I'd probably run several for redundancy. Hardware (though mass market quality) and nicotine free juice is being sold in stores at nearly tobacco prices (go go gadget taxes!). The hoops involve getting a list of local suppliers to avoid the import seizure issues, it's always nice to support your local businesses too. Again, making juice here is not a major hurdle if you're willing to have customs hold and return your import. What usually happens is it's sent out again and passes through.
I'm not sure how much legal power the FDA has, and if that branch can make products illegal. I always assumed that signing laws is a process with many steps along the way for counter arguments.
Also, I doubt they will classify nicotine and nicotine products, way too much money passing hands. You're most likely looking at increased costs due to taxation of raw ingredients.
I'm not sure how much legal power the FDA has, and if that branch can make products illegal. I always assumed that signing laws is a process with many steps along the way for counter arguments.
Also, I doubt they will classify nicotine and nicotine products, way too much money passing hands. You're most likely looking at increased costs due to taxation of raw ingredients.
I've been thinking about this for months and its why i got into DIY liquid. I'm wondering if there will be a run on it or something.
Same for me ... I would still be smoking today if I didnt find ecigs
gum, patches, horrible pills, nothing worked.I hope not! My dad just showed me a youtube clip of Rush talking about how he actually likes e-ciggs and now they are going to ban them. In Washington you can not use them in bars since they banned smoking. lol for worry of second hand vapors? lol
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