As far as VV vs. VW goes, can I not just use a basic V^2/O formula?

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Well I'm currently a science major in college, and I took a class on basic electrical engineering last semester as an elective, so that basically removed my only slight hesitation on getting a Provari. Just gotta wait until the end of February for my taxes to come in, and for this damn vaper's tongue to go away. I've only been vaping (aside from disposables) for 2 weeks now and it's hit me twice. Gonna go buy a few jalapenos and some lemon juice tomorrow.
 

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At this point I've tried dripping a few drops of vinegar on my tongue to clear this vaper's tongue, and it's persistent. Essentially planning to eat a jalapeno, if that doesn't work I'll take/swish a shot of lemon juice. It won't taste/feel great that's for sure, but I've heard it's a decent fix, and I need to taste my Tribeca, and the 3 pack of juice I'm getting from Deej tomorrow.
 

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When I was going through vapors tongue nothing worked. I got angry and tried everything, but nothing. Your taste buds are sensitive parts of your body, essentially poison/nutrient receptors. But they die and are reborn about ever 12 hours.

If you are dead set on eating spicy peppers and drinking acid, FOR SCIENCE.

If you don't have a 'spicy' tolerance, have a glass of milk nearby, or bread with butter and sugar.
 

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I'm considering ordering a Provari, and while it isn't variable wattage, can't I just, for example, set a 2.5 ohm resistance coil to 3.9 volts and get a 6 watt vape? Or is there something I'm missing about the magic of VW devices?

You set a desired/preferred wattage you like to vape at so when you put any topper on, the device checks the resistance of your topper, and automatically supplies the correct voltage to provide that wattage. The idea being once you figure out where you like to vape (warmth), there is no more adjusting regardless of what you put on the mod. Your done with pressing buttons/menus outside of turning the VW mod on and off.
 

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You set a desired/preferred wattage you like to vape at so when you put any topper on, the device checks the resistance of your topper, and automatically supplies the correct voltage to provide that wattage. The idea being once you figure out where you like to vape (warmth), there is no more adjusting regardless of what you put on the mod. Your done with pressing buttons/menus outside of turning the VW mod on and off.

He was asking because the Provari specifically doesn't have variable wattage, only variable voltage.

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I have several variable voltage and variable wattage, so I'm familiar with both. That being said, even with variable wattage, I am still adjusting according to juice flavor, time of day, age of coil, you name it. Plus, variable wattage on most devices jumps in .5 increments. I find you can fine tune variable voltage a little better, .1 increments.

And out of all my devices, my ProVaris (have 3) are my favorites...YMMV
 

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I'm considering ordering a Provari, and while it isn't variable wattage, can't I just, for example, set a 2.5 ohm resistance coil to 3.9 volts and get a 6 watt vape? Or is there something I'm missing about the magic of VW devices?

It depends where you come from.

Do you have a history of using a VV battery like a Spinner or Ego-Twist? If so, I doubt VW will give you much if anything. You are already used to adjusting your battery, you will likely not stop adjusting if you go to VW.

If you are coming from a static voltage battery, then you are not used to making adjustments. Therefore you may appreciate VW more because you can set wattage for taste and "basically" forget it.
 

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If you are coming from a static voltage battery, then you are not used to making adjustments. Therefore you may appreciate VW more because you can set wattage for taste and "basically" forget it.

This is only true if the mod can very accurately/reliably measure resistance and you do not change juice.
 

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This is only true if the mod can very accurately/reliably measure resistance and you do not change juice.

I agree with your first point but not the second. As a former eGo-T user, I accepted my juice as is. So I tend to do so with my VW battery. I'm not in the habit of adjusting for juice. So I adjusted my first tanks to 7.0 watts and left it at that. Granted, I could tweak my battery for juice, but unless I get a burnt taste on one of my juices, I don't adjust, and then when I find a setting that gives a burn free vape on all my juices, I keep it at that.
 

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I just posted this in separate thread but I think it addresses your VW question and hopefully provides a nice analogy without all the messy math ;)

The best way I heard it described is something like this. When you use the gas pedal to determine your speed that's VV. When you use speed control button that's VW. So imagine your on a flat road...i.e. your resistance isn't changing...it doesn't matter if you use the gas pedal and hold your foot at a constant angle or if you are using speed control...your speed is going to stay the same.

Now lets say you encounter a hill and 20 mph winds coming head on (i.e. the resistance of your atty got higher). With the gas pedal (VV) you need to step on the pedal a little more to overcome the wind and the hill just to maintain the same speed. When using speed control (VW) the car's computer takes care of that for you and your speed remains constant regardless of the resistance.

Same analogy when going down hill just in reverse.

Assuming all things being equal juice, tank, battery, etc when switching from a lower resistance atty to a higher resistance atty and vice verse you will get the exact same vape when using VW. The mods computer chip kicks in determines what the appropriate voltage should be to equal your current wattage setting (i.e speed of car)...Just like how a car's computer determines how much gas to send to the fuel injector when using speed control.

Regardless of using VV or VW wattage is the end result that determines the hotness and throat hit of the vape. Wattage in this case equates to the heat/energy given off by the attomizer to turn the liquid into a vapor. You can look at ohms law and all of that but when increasing the voltage your actually increasing the wattage and when decreasing the voltage you are decreasing the wattage. There is a formula that uses voltage and resistance to calculate the wattage. When using VW it uses that formula behind the scene and calculates what voltage you need for your given wattage setting based on the resistance of the attomizer that is currently in use.

In all honesty if all of your atties are the same resistance (you are always driving on a flat road) it makes no difference what you use as the resistance becomes constant. The advantage of using VW is that when you change resistances you shouldn't have to change any settings as the vape will be the same. Again from my previous post I still tweak for different juices, times of day, and mood but I have to do less fiddling.

The only other advantage I can see to VW is that when I change my battery it keeps my wattage setting...but when I'm using VV and I switch batteries it always resets the voltage to the lowest setting.

Hopefully that description helps cement things in your mind a bit easier than going over ohms law and physic and math equations ;)

One other advantage of VW...the resistance of your atty changes over time and usage. When using VW your device picks up on this and will adjust the voltage output accordingly to maintain your current wattage setting.
 

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FYI his is the other thread that is going on that is basically dealing with the same question VV or VW

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...riable-wattage-variable-voltage-debate-2.html

VW doesn't necessarily mean "set it and forget it" You can still move up or down based juice, time of day, mood preferences etc. It just helps maintain a setting when changing atties with different resistances and also helps maintain the same experience as your att's resistance changes over time and usage.
 
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