As the popularity of electronic cigarettes grows, Indiana politicians are pushing for tougher regulations at the state level.
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“These vape salesmen are telling people it’s healthy for you, it’s not as bad as cigarettes and it can help you beat your cigarette habit,” Zoeller says. “None of those things are really legal to say because they haven’t been proven.”
I highly doubt "vape salesmen" are telling people that vaping is "healthy for you". If they are, they are idiots and you would be even dumber to believe it. Lets just assume this is true, who are these salesman? Wouldn't it be a good idea to provide people with that information?
One of the cartridges contained a small amount of diethylene glycol, an ingredient used in antifreeze.
The tests also found that the cartridges contained different nicotine levels than what was indicated on the labels.
That's 1 out of how many? Shall we list the chemicals in cigarettes? And they are perfectly legal. Once again, if this is true wouldn't it be a good idea to provide which cartridge contained said chemical as well as which contained incorrect nic levels since it was "tested" ?
And, requiring licensing is a measure they support.
Zoeller also wants legislators to consider taxing electronic cigarettes similarly to traditional cigarettes.
Ah yes, they want a piece of the pie. What a surprise....
Another controversial aspect of the bill – including e-cigarettes in the statewide smoking ban.
Cities like Indianapolis have already banned the devices from public places in their smoke-free ordinances.
It's not smoke, they might want to go back to doing their "research"
One positive note, I did see that the article seemed to give both sides of the argument. Which is a plus, good for IPM.
I love the immediate push to "regulation" and "taxation" There aren't enough taxes already? Look at the bang up job that is done with that money....JMO
“These vape salesmen are telling people it’s healthy for you, it’s not as bad as cigarettes and it can help you beat your cigarette habit,” Zoeller says. “None of those things are really legal to say because they haven’t been proven.”
I highly doubt "vape salesmen" are telling people that vaping is "healthy for you". If they are, they are idiots and you would be even dumber to believe it. Lets just assume this is true, who are these salesman? Wouldn't it be a good idea to provide people with that information?
One of the cartridges contained a small amount of diethylene glycol, an ingredient used in antifreeze.
The tests also found that the cartridges contained different nicotine levels than what was indicated on the labels.
That's 1 out of how many? Shall we list the chemicals in cigarettes? And they are perfectly legal. Once again, if this is true wouldn't it be a good idea to provide which cartridge contained said chemical as well as which contained incorrect nic levels since it was "tested" ?
And, requiring licensing is a measure they support.
Zoeller also wants legislators to consider taxing electronic cigarettes similarly to traditional cigarettes.
Ah yes, they want a piece of the pie. What a surprise....
Another controversial aspect of the bill – including e-cigarettes in the statewide smoking ban.
Cities like Indianapolis have already banned the devices from public places in their smoke-free ordinances.
It's not smoke, they might want to go back to doing their "research"
One positive note, I did see that the article seemed to give both sides of the argument. Which is a plus, good for IPM.
I love the immediate push to "regulation" and "taxation" There aren't enough taxes already? Look at the bang up job that is done with that money....JMO
blah, blah, blah... consider taxing electronic cigarettes similarly to traditional cigarettes... blah, blah, blah.
The danger hype is just to tee up the taxes being a "no brainer". Anyone who is relentless about seeing the glass half empty has an agenda, and the 21st century Maslow's Hierarchy is: physiological safety - money - power. No better way to get the money and power than to create the threat of base safety need.
The danger hype is just to tee up the taxes being a "no brainer". Anyone who is relentless about seeing the glass half empty has an agenda, and the 21st century Maslow's Hierarchy is: physiological safety - money - power. No better way to get the money and power than to create the threat of base safety need.
Every time someone cites that 2009 study, I want to inform them that we also know that the world is round now.
Johnnychadootz they can't list which ones, because five years later they no longer exist.
Johnnychadootz they can't list which ones, because five years later they no longer exist.
That's a shame....You know that "research" will be used against vaping regardless. The article was posted on January 9, 2015 and the 6 year old "research" is still being used as ammo. What a sad state of affairs. Hopefully, it won't hold any weight (me being optimistic)
Most pie crusts contain salt, an ingredient used in antifreeze. Therefore, pies of all sorts are dangerous, should be regulated, and should be taxed.
Here's what I had to say to all the BS in there article.
All you politicians disgust me what you are trying to do doesn't concern the children or the health of the public. Your only concern is the tobacco bond monies and the tobacco taxes you all have spent over the years. You thought you all had a lush fund that would not quit then here came Vaping and really put a big hurt on your big lush funds.Tobacco sales are down not only in youth smoking but also in adult smokers because of Vaping. teen smoking the lowest it has ever been because of Vaping adult smoking down to it's lowest because of vaping. All that comes out of your mouths is vaping needs to be regulated and the term of regulation needs to be changed because all of you think it means taxiation. What the real problem is is your about to go into default on your tobacco bonds. Here is a good read for you all if you dare to read it it might just wake some of you readers up to what these politicians are really up to. http://www.propublica.org/arti...
Just getting tired of them trying to tell us how bad Vaping is for us
All you politicians disgust me what you are trying to do doesn't concern the children or the health of the public. Your only concern is the tobacco bond monies and the tobacco taxes you all have spent over the years. You thought you all had a lush fund that would not quit then here came Vaping and really put a big hurt on your big lush funds.Tobacco sales are down not only in youth smoking but also in adult smokers because of Vaping. teen smoking the lowest it has ever been because of Vaping adult smoking down to it's lowest because of vaping. All that comes out of your mouths is vaping needs to be regulated and the term of regulation needs to be changed because all of you think it means taxiation. What the real problem is is your about to go into default on your tobacco bonds. Here is a good read for you all if you dare to read it it might just wake some of you readers up to what these politicians are really up to. http://www.propublica.org/arti...
Just getting tired of them trying to tell us how bad Vaping is for us
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