Aspire Nautilus, serious buyers remorse.

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HemiMG

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Against my better judgment I spent over $100 getting a new setup to replace my aging Ego batteries and Aspire CE5s when I ran out of heads for the CE5. I bought a Vamo V6, a nice charger, a few batteries, and an Aspire Nautilus with 5 extra heads. Boy was that Aspire purchase an absolutely horrible decision! I filled it up and vaped with the 1.6ohm BVC head that came installed in it and burnt that one up. That was my fault, I pushed it to 13 watts not realizing it couldn't handle it.

Okay, fine, lesson learned. So I put the 1.8ohm that came with the tank in and never fired it above 7.5 watts. Yet, after only one tank I am getting the burnt taste again. I let the juice wick in the new head for 20-30 minutes for both heads. I pulled a few non-fired hits to make sure it was good and primed. I'm certainly not going over the recommended voltage on the 1.8. Now I've pretty much got a $25 paper weight and 5 useless heads that are going to last me maybe 5 days before they go bad. If I'm lucky. Then I can't vape for a whole month until I get paid and can get some heads for the crappy old CE5 that the Nautilus blows away for the few ml of liquid it actually works with before crapping out.

Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me extend the life of these last 5 heads for at least a day or two each? I'm vaping on the second smallest air hole that the Aspire has, figuring that would help the juice keep up, but obviously not. I've been doing the trick where you turn it upside down and flip it up to force juice in there. That clearly didn't work. After burning the first one up, I thought I had read every tip imaginable for avoiding it, but the crappiness of these heads seems determined to burn up.

In a few more months when I can afford to get a new tank again (did I mention how disappointed I am that I wasted my limited funds on this?), what would be a good recommendation? I'd like something bigger than the CE5, with adjustable air holes. It'd be nice if there was something that could go above 8 watts or so, because that one brief moment at 13 watts on the 1.6 before the burn came was delightful. Obviously, I want to avoid another Aspire product. And I did verify the security code, so this isn't a clone.
 

CampbellMC

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Firstly the Nautilus does not handle high VG liquids well, if that is what you are running you may want to pick up some 50/50 to help with wicking. Make sure you have BVC coils and not BDC, the BVC are much better and more reliable. I run my Nautilus at 8.5W with the 1.8 ohm BVC, heads usually last a couple weeks at least. Also keep in mind that it could be an over heating issue that is causing the burning juice, run it wide open, biggest air hole. Last thing make sure you don't overtighten the components, the seal on the glass has a good amount of give, the way I usually judge it is that when you can no longer slide a fingernail in the gap between the glass and the gasket bottom, its tight enough. Hope you can solve the issues you are having, it is a great tank and has a good following.
 

HemiMG

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Thanks for the reply. I did forget to mention that I'm running 80pg/20vg (that's the only option Azure Vaping has). It seems like maybe I did over tighten it to the glass, judging by your method. I'm also not sure whether I tightened the head in too much. Before it gets finger tight it starts making a scratching noise. But everything I've said says to make it finger tight.

I actually just put the CE5 on the Vamo for the first time, and assuming the burn doesn't come from the Vamo for some reason, the CE5s performance is greatly improved. Even on an old head I'm get thick clouds of vapor, at a warmer and more flavorful taste than the Nautilus gives. Well, I say more flavorful but I don't know that for sure since I'm vaping a different juice. But the Azure Smooth I have in the Nautilus doesn't taste as delicious as I'm used to and the Vamo seems to give the Desert Gold from ECBlends more taste than the dying Ego batteries did. The CE5 seems to draw better than the Nautilus set to a similar sized air hole as well.

One thing I noticed is that I had to raise the center pin on the Vamo quite a bit (I love that adjustable center pin!) to get it to recognize the CE5. I'm not sure if that could have had any effect on the Nautilus or not. Maybe it wasn't making good contact? I don't know if it would fire in that case. But I don't think it's an issue because the Vamo was showing the appropriate resistance for the heads.
 

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I agree with CampbellMC above. Sounds like you may have gotten some bad coils as well. Even if they're authentic Aspire coils you might find a dud in a package.
I use the BDC coils in mine with a very clear 50/50 liquid at about 9 watts and get 3+ weeks of almost constant daily vaping. You might want to give it another try because it really is a great tank. Hope you get it worked out.
 

toucandan229

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Hate to criticize you man, but you must be doing something wrong or bought a fake nautilus mini. My nautilus mini has provided me with a phenomenal vaping experience. Each coil is lastings me an average of 2 weeks(60ml of juice on avg) and I have yet to burn out a coil(I vape 15 watts all day and all night with 50/50 juice). Try throwing a new head in there, starting at the lowest wattage setting, and go up from there. I do that with each and every one of my coils and they PREFORM.
 

HemiMG

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You might want to give it another try because it really is a great tank. Hope you get it worked out.

Well, I'm definitely going to go through the 5 heads I've got. I thought I might have gotten a dud, but I don't figure the 1.8 and 1.6 that come with it come from the same batch. So two duds seems a little less likely. I guess I'll find out when I open the 5 pack.

never owned a nautilius, but i do have a kanger aerotank giant i have used 1.5 and 1.8 upgraded coils and the cheaper coils
my istick20 with a 1.8 wont let me go higher than 17w but it handles it no problem.

Wow, I'd love to be able to go up to 17w. The 13w had a nice warm taste for the split second before the head went funky on me. I also noticed that the Kanger heads are much cheaper than the Nautilus. It might be worth it to purchase one for that reason alone when I get some more money in.

Very important step you might have forgot to do is priming the coil with 3 to 5 drops of juice. It does make a difference!

I didn't do that. But I did let it wick for quite a while, and the burnt taste doesn't happen until after I've vaped quite a bit.

Yes! You're sure your stuff is authentic? Many of the problems I've seen people complain about were because they bought from a sketchy place and their gear was not the real thing.

Yeah, I'm sure. Well, as sure as I can be. The Aspire website says the code is good and the scratchy stuff hadn't been scratched off.
 

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The first time, just last week, that I tried using my full sized Aspire Nauitlus, I popped in the 1.6 ohm coil that it came with (it came with both a 1.6ohm & 1.8ohm)
honestly, I just assumed they were the bottom VERTICAL coils....
Well, I made the mistake, just like you, of setting the watts to high (13 watts) and burnt up the first coil...
2nd attempt, using the 1.8ohm coil...the only thing I could taste was a burnt one...no taste from my e-liquids at all.
thinking it was just me, I switched over to my Aspire CE5 clearo, and had no problems with taste...so I went back to the Nautilus to try and figure it up.
Same thing...over and over, getting nothing but a burnt taste to it..even though my watts were now down between 8-9.

Well...it wasn't until the next day that I opened up a brand new box of Aspire BVC coils (specifically made for Nautilus) that I noticed there was a distinctive difference (looking inside of each one) between what I THOUGHT were BVC coils that came with my Nautilus system kit, and the actual ones that I purchased separately.

come to find out, after much googling, that the coils that come with the Nautilus are 1.8 & 1.6 ohm BDC coils...
These are very different than the Nautilus 1.8ohm BVC coils

BVC_2.jpg


The coil on the left is the original BDC coil for Nautilus...the one on the right is the newer BVC coil for Nautilus.

Once I figured this up...and started using my BVC coils, I have had no problems with that 'burnt taste' and based on my own usage, I'm expecting a good 10 days worth of usage with each one.

honestly, I don't know if this is your problem...but it certainly was mine when I first started using it.
 

HemiMG

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come to find out, after much googling, that the coils that come with the Nautilus are 1.8 & 1.6 ohm BDC coils...
These are very different than the Nautilus 1.8ohm BVC coils

I had read that the Nautilus full size comes with BDC coils. I even took the coil that was installed out of it and got ready to pop in one of the BVC heads that I bought. But as I took it out, I noticed that it had BVC written on the side of it. The ones that came with it look just like the BVCs that I bought and the one in your picture. I guess they switched over.

I am really loving the CE5 on this Vamo though. The only problem is that it is giving a little TOO much flavor now. But I've always ordered the extra flavor from ECBlends. I might not need to do that with the CE5 on the Vamo. I won't know whether to blame the Nautilus or the juice for the lack of flavor until I run out of Desert Gold and fill the CE5 with the Smooth. By then, the head on the CE5 may be on its last leg. I don't really have enough Desert Gold left to justify wicking a nautilus head with it though.
 

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I have a question similar to the the original.
I have a Beyond Vape Silo with 1.8ohm Nautilus coils in it. I had bought a juice from MTB a while ago and loved it It's an Orange/Peach/MangoIi I made myself, at 50/50 and 6mg. It vaped great in that tank at 13 watts for the entire 30ml's I started with. Since I liked the juice so much, I bought the 235ml bottle, and figured I'd make it my all day vape. Strangely enough, right away, I would get one good draw, and then it would taste burnt. I changed coils, even though the current one was only 2-3 days old. And I got the same result. So I lowered my wattage to 10. Same thing. I cleaned the tank, and changed the coils a 3rd time. Same result. At this point, the only thing I can imagine is that this juice does not vape well in cold weather. But when I vape inside, it does the exact same thing. Has anyone else had this experience? I have an actual Nautilus, and a Nautilus mini that vape just fine at 12-13 watts. All of the juice I get from MTB is 50/50 and 6mg. But that one just doesn't work for me anymore. I've steeped, run it in a warm water bath, and everything I can think of, and was recommended to me.
Any ideas?

Also, I finally broke down and emptied it out and filled it with a different juice, which works fine at 12 watts. So I know it wasn't the tank
 

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Firstly the Nautilus does not handle high VG liquids well, if that is what you are running you may want to pick up some 50/50 to help with wicking.

no offense but I never understand why people say this stuff.

Vapers who vape high VG do so for a reason (many times allergies). We should buy equipment that satisfies our health and vaping styles, not change vaping style to "fit" a certain piece of (overpriced) hardware. :)

To the OP: it is very possible you received a bad box of coils....it happens. I would talk to my vendor. One reason I tell people to use same group of vendors ALL THE TIME......they get to know you, they can see you are loyal, and aren't some drive-by trying to fake them out.

Because I do that,I have never had a problem returning stuff........juice included. :)

@OP: many high VG users resort to bottom feeders, they just handle VG well.
 

HemiMG

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To the OP: it is very possible you received a bad box of coils....it happens. I would talk to my vendor. One reason I tell people to use same group of vendors ALL THE TIME......they get to know you, they can see you are loyal, and aren't some drive-by trying to fake them out.

I guess I'll find out when I open the box of replacement heads I bought whether the two that came with it were just both bad. I'm kinda hesitant to pop one in there without some idea what might be causing them to burn though.

On my old Vamo, if I didn't set it to RMS mode, it would burn everything.

I've read that pretty much everyone recommends setting them to RMS mode, but my V6 apparently doesn't have that option. Holding down the minus key for a long time doesn't do anything. They also seem to have gotten rid of the ability to hold down the plus key to see the resistance. VV mode is also gone.
 

Flapstick

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I have pretty much the same setting (but with a Vamo V5 and the newer - V6 - software on it; an odd product really) and have had the exact same problems until I swapped from Mean to RMS. If your mod doesn't have that option, that's a huge bummer.

I also have found out that - for me, at the very least - vaping in VV mode, not VW, gives better results with the Nautilus. My combos' sweet spot is around 3.4-3.5 volts, and can carry a BVC coil well over a month.

On the other hand, each and every time I replace the coil, no matter how well or how long I prime the new BVC, it will still taste awfully burnt for a few first puffs. I have no idea why it does that. But it goes on superbly after that.

Best of luck and let us know if you fix the problem! :)
 
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