Ato-miser or Bulli A2?

[Shaggy63]

I've been vaping for a couple of years now. I'm really tired of buying attys that die and carts that get burnt. I've tried making the atty/carto for life but I'm not good at building tiny things. I'm done buying things just to use and throw away. I'm on my last cart that is way past it's prime and I'm going to order an ato-miser from nhaler or the Bulli A2 first thing Monday morning and I'm ordering with the fastest shipping possible (in states).

Has anyone used both? Which one in your opinion is better? Has anyone purchased one and not liked it?

Which one should I buy? Has anyone used one or the other and simply love the hell out of it and would never go back to a regular atty/cart?

Thanks

 

[ejoker]

the biggest difference is going to be that the ato-miser is for dripping, whereas the a2 works more like a carto. there is a lighter draw on the a2.
otherwise everything else is pretty equal.

shipping time for the a2 from germany is going to be about 2 weeks, mine took 20 days.

 

[Shaggy63]

Thanks, I bought the ato-miser. Will review once I receive it.

 

[WillyB]

the biggest difference is going to be that the ato-miser is for dripping, whereas the a2 works more like a carto. there is a lighter draw on the a2.
otherwise everything else is pretty equal.

There is a big difference in the construction, fit and finish. The Bulli is a refined and attractive device. And there is nothing 'carto' about it. It works like a standard atty with a horizontal coil that is top fed from a rather large juice cart, great mouthpiece too.

 

[prof beard]

Can't comment on the ato-miser, but I've had a Bulli A2 for about a month now and am really pleased with it. The A2 uses 701 -e-cigar carts which are huge and with the horizintal coil and large wick, it wicks from the cart splendidly. I can vape 25 drops of juice between cart top-ups.

 

[mergryphon]

Can't comment on the ato-miser, but I've had a Bulli A2 for about a month now and am really pleased with it. The A2 uses 701 -e-cigar carts which are huge and with the horizintal coil and large wick, it wicks from the cart splendidly. I can vape 25 drops of juice between cart top-ups.

Can it be used without the cart at all, to drip or so?

I really don't want to go back to cart filling and burnt filler.

 

[Shaggy63]

I'm pretty used to dripping so the cart isn't a big concern. I just got an alert from USPS that my ato-miser will be here tomorrow.

I use a Puck as my battery supply so being a big atty won't bother me at all.

 

[prof beard]

Can it be used without the cart at all, to drip or so?

I really don't want to go back to cart filling and burnt filler.

You can drip buy detaching/discarding the cart from its screw cap (the mouthpiece) and using the mouthpiece. That does mean you have to unscrew the tip to drip but otherwise is fine

 

[Shaggy63]

about 4 more hours till mine comes in

 

[SmaBob]

Just got my Bulli and I'm loving it. I have done a quick mod on the mouthpiece. I thought , like others that the draw was too airy. I took a tooth pick inserted it from the bottom and cut off the small piece that extended above the top. then i cut the bottom of the pick off so it would not touch the filler. This restricted the air flow and now has the draw which I like.
Bob

 

[Shaggy63]

I got the ato-miser, i've been using it a couple days. Using the 2ohm wire this thing is great. It took wasting a few 3 ohm wires till I went to 2 ohm. I'm getting a great vapor and the flavor is awesome. I haven't gotten this much flavor ever.

It is smaller than I thought which is good. I'm never buying an atty again. Direct dripping is nice which no leaks. Have to make the wick small so and have a loose coil not too tight.
One thing with a new coil. You MUST dry burn a new coil until you get no more smoke or it takes a little off. After that you are good to go.

 

[kosliev]

I'd love to buy the ato-miser too.. till they make a screw cap that doesnt look hideous.

 

[WillyB]

I'd love to buy the ato-miser too.. till they make a screw cap that doesnt look hideous.

The Bulli is only about $10 more.

Looks pretty good to me.

 

[kosliev]

Hey willy, yeah the bulli looks fantastic (im from europe so its much easier to get a handle of, too), i just dont like how "long it is", people have been reporting colder vapor and "airier" drag and im not really into those, besides im not into having carts either.

A dripping atom like the atomiser makes more sense to me, kind of large though, and the delrin mouthpiece... PLUS my country's customs are a pure nightmare.

coul've just made a metal cone that i could fit with 901/510 drip tips

theres a few new ones about to come out so i'll hold and see if they're good or not

 

[Shaggy63]

The drip tip of the ato-miser isn't bad at all. And this thing is not airy or cold at all. I just can't get how much more flavor, I've not had this much flavor out of anything. Time to go on a juice ordering binge.

 

[kosliev]

hey shaggy, of course its not cold or airy!, you're so close to the resistance

And i dont mean the drip tip, i mean the shape of the cap itself, i dont like the shape of it, and for the drip tip on the ato-miser, my idea was to leave the cap without a tip, just a 510/901 hole, so we can fit the drip tip we want (super T whistle tips, normal 3$ anodized reds, and so on).

And isntead of that "curvy cap", a simple stainless steel cone-ish and im sold

 

[tonyorion]

Hello Prof!

I am considering ordering the Bulli a2, but could not find any reference to the 701 e cigar. Could you give me a specific reference? Also would like to know if you were able to get wire and silica rope in the US. Seems kind of expensive to order these consumables from Europe. Also, did they sock it to you for the 19% MwSt. (Mehrwertsteuer or Value Added Tax). Items shipped outside of the Common Market are not subject to VAT.

Thanks

Tony

 

[SteveMacc]

You shouldn't be charged MwSt if you give a shipping address outside the EC. Obviously, you will be charged local sales tax on entry.

Best thing to do is to order extra wick and Kanthal wire at the time you order the Bulli. That way you won't pay extra postage. The wick is difficult to find outside Germany - tried substiutes from the US and the UK don't seem to work as well. The wick is cheap enough on the Bulli site.

The carts are DSE 701 electronic cigar cartridges and are available from several suppliers. I got mine from TECC. Wicking with the cart is not an issue.The design of the Bulli wicks means that the cart empties to the last drop with no wicking issues. You do need to clean the filler occasionally though. The cart holds about 1 ml so lasts quite a long time before fills.

Love mine. Not used anything else since I got it.

 

[gratefulbuddy]

RN4062 carts will also work on the a2.

 

[prof beard]

Thanks for that! I found Liberro had RN4062 carts on clearance offer.