Atomizers on a GGTS ? plus some more Qs..

[Skibadabomski]

Hi everyone,

Yes a newbie with a GGTS was a recipe for disaster and the fact I live in Tokyo.. so Billy no mates with this subject.

When I received my GGTS with some cartomizers and some Atomizers well you just wouldn't believe what I did.. are you ready..

I tried smoking the carto's and the Atomizers WITHOUT e-liquid.. yup.. the carto's gave off a very battery taste to which I frowned and thought 'oh well' and tried to vape again only to get no vape..

Anyway a few weeks have passed and I have ordered starter kits and started playing with the cart's and adding mixtures of e-liquids.. All I had was Apple from Totally Wicked and I did the 7 drops of flavor and Ice drops and equalled it out to 30 drops and what a throat hit.. OUCH !! had to smoke it like a cigar..

I'm getting the feeling those 2 small 3.7 batteries are too strong. Still kind of messing about with them but I have burnt out all my carts. I also have the Li-ion3.7 18650 2900mAh battery. Which I have discovered is kind of weaker ?

I do however have many Atomizers and I have read that you drip onto the mesh and smoke but nothing is happening, I can't find any videos on how to do this.

So basically I need help with the Atomizers and how to get them to work. Plus some advice on how to handle Carts. Can they be refilled and when would you know to fill them again.

Thanks.. and sorry if these are asked frequently.

Ski-

 

[dormouse]

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Are you vaping it at 3.7v or the double voltage? The site says it can do either. I recommend 3.7v vaping.

If you are getting too much hit, use higher resistance attys/cartos and lower nic juice. Ohms equal to voltage minus 2 or 2.2 is extreme low resistance which means extreme heat. Ohms about .5 to 1.2 below the voltage are standard resistance (so on 3.7 that would be attys and cartos around 2.8 to 3 ohms and even down to about 2.5ohms which would be the hotter end of standard resistance. Below 2.5 would be LR which is hotter). Heat makes nicotine's TH stronger. Start with standard resistance (2.5ohms to 3 ohms). Note that those same ohms values on 7.4 volts would be ridiculously hot.

If you are using 100% PG juices use juice with some VG in it. I use 10-20% VG with the rest PG juice in cartomizers, and up to 50% VG in atomizers. VG dulls flavor, TH and irritation but it makes the juice thicker - adds thicker looking vapor but thicker juice is harder to use in cartos.

re nicotine - don't worry about using 1 step lower level. if it is more comfortable to vape, you will get what you need. And after to cigarette chemicals wear off, nicotine is less addictive anyway (cigs contain a chemical that makes nicotine more addictive). i think the bigger addiction then is just being able to get good drags you can feel and flavor/aroma you can enjoy.

I do not use carts. I use cartos (cartomizers). I recommend learning on simple standard resistance ones - learn to fill them well, clean up, let them settle. learn to sense when the flavor or vapor is diminished or tastes off and notice if the carto is getting abnormally hot. I also check if it needs juice by looking at the stuffing. I use juices that leave no sediment so my carto stuffing goes light or white when it needs juice on top, so I can also use my eyes to check. I check visually before putting a new battery on and before leaving the house.

Drip tips and dripping on atomizers - you need to do several drops then wait for it to soak down to the coil. I use thin juices and even my few thicker ones are no more than 50% VG - I give a juice 15 seconds or so to slide down (and I may blow across the top of the drip tip to help it), less if a real thin juice. Then I vape. When the vaping gets light I add 2-3 more drops. I am not great at dripping.

New attys can have nasty tasting primer on them.

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How I fill Vapor4Life KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos

Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole, tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml).
Wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that)
Sop up any loose juice above the stuffing
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.

While vaping, if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or the carto is getting hotter than normal, I take the carto off the battery and add eliquid. I sometimes use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece on Boge and KR8 cartos (not to drip into since the juice would head for the central air channel)

 

[Skibadabomski]

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Are you vaping it at 3.7v or the double voltage? The site says it can do either. I recommend 3.7v vaping.

If you are getting too much hit, use higher resistance attys/cartos and lower nic juice. Ohms equal to voltage minus 2 or 2.2 is extreme low resistance which means extreme heat. Ohms about .5 to 1.2 below the voltage are standard resistance (so on 3.7 that would be attys and cartos around 2.8 to 3 ohms and even down to about 2.5ohms which would be the hotter end of standard resistance. Below 2.5 would be LR which is hotter). Heat makes nicotine's TH stronger. Start with standard resistance (2.5ohms to 3 ohms). Note that those same ohms values on 7.4 volts would be ridiculously hot.

If you are using 100% PG juices use juice with some VG in it. I use 10-20% VG with the rest PG juices in cartomizers, and up to 50% VG in atomizers. VG dulls flavor, TH and irritation but it makes the juice thicker - adds thicker looking vapor but thicker juice is harder to use in cartos.

re nicotine - don't worry about using 1 step lower level. if it is more comfortable to vape, you will get what you need. And after to cigarette chemicals wear off, nicotine is less addictive anyway (cigs contain a chemical that makes nicotine more addictive). i think the bigger addiction then is just being able to get good drags you can feel and flavor/aroma you can enjoy.

I do not use carts. I use cartos (cartomizers). I recommend learning on simple standard resistance ones - learn to fill them well, clean up, let them settle. learn to sense when the flavor or vapor is diminished or tastes off and notice if the carto is getting abnormally hot. I also check if it needs juice by looking at the stuffing. I use juices that leave no sediment so my carto stuffing goes light or white when it needs juice on top, so I can also use my eyes to check. I check visually before putting a new battery on and before leaving the house.

Drip tips and dripping on atomizers - you need to do several drops then wait for it to soak down to the coil. I use thin juices and even my few thicker ones are no more than 50% VG - I give a juice 15 seconds or so to slide down (and I may blow across the top of the drip tip to help it), less if a real thin juice. Then I vape. When the vaping gets light I add 2-3 more drops. I am not great at dripping.

New attys can have nasty tasting primer on them.

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How I fill Vapor4Life KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos

Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole, tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml).
Wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that)
Sop up any loose juice above the stuffing
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.

While vaping, if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or the carto is getting hotter than normal, I take the carto off the battery and add eliquid. I sometimes use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece on Boge and KR8 cartos (not to drip into since the juice would head for the central air channel)

Thank you Dormouse so much for your reply.. now I'll go through and use this as like a manual and I'll get back to you with the results. I do actually think I'd learn Kung Fu quicker than this lol.. but I so much want to get going with this. Yes I had a disgusting liquorice flavor double whammy 7.? volts whallop to the throat that took 4 hours to spit that lingering flavor out lol... Another carto in the trash.

Incidentally could I soak a cart with water for a few hours and dry it out? doubt it but thought I'd ask? If so then I'll be diving into the trash to recover them as I have many disaster flavors that I threw into the trash with a cringed up face..

Speak soon..

Ski-

 

[dormouse]

7v really severely limits what you can comfortably vape on it. a 4.5 ohm atty would be extreme LR.

3.7v has the most variety of ohms and type of attys and cartos available. Boge 3.0 cartos on 3.7 give a nice warm vapory vape and would be more forgiving while learning (won't singe quite as easily). If a carto singes a bit it may still be usable with a very sweet juice that can overpower the bit of bitter singe taste, or with a tobacco flavor that might actually taste more cigarette like with a bit of singe bitterness. If one singes a lot, it will totally dull the flavor of any sweet juice and cover up the tobacco flavors too so just start a new one. Then if you want hotter, try the Boge 2 ohm ones (the most popular cartos on big-battery 3.7v). Then you can also try some of the more difficult and exotic kinds of cartos. For atomizers there are tons available between 2.0 and 3.2 and some lower than 2.0 if you want really hot. Just start with standard resistance 2.8-3.0 on 3.7v and then try lower if you want hotter (hotter also uses battery charge faster). Then you will have a known good vaping setup and could afford to experiment with the 7v w/ HR aka HV attys etc.