Atty Manufacturers

[Sun Vaporer]

Kinabaloo, I get the feeling that you don't mean this forum would be taken down by it's owner, but by some govt. entity. Am I understanding this correctly? If so, - and I'm prob being naive - but why would that happen where there are many other sites discussing activities that are actually illegal?

Not trying to read too much into your post, but since you relate it to a ban, that's what it sounds like.

JustMe---this site will never be taken down by any govermental agency as it is just speech in progress. This site ever going anywhere is the least of our concerns right now.

Sun

 

[JustMeAgain]

JustMe---this site will never be taken down by any govermental agency as it is just speech in progress. This site ever going anywhere is the least of our concerns right now.

Sun

Good!

 

[Technocrat]

Justme--you have to understand that to make money with atomizers, they would have to be done on a high output assembly line due to their low price point to be profitable. It really is not cost effective unless done so in mass production which would take a major investment...

Am I missing something here? Or buying from the wrong vendors? Attys are tiny and worthless and yet always seem to cost about 10$ (USD). They are not like batteries with switches, circuitry, and expensive exotic materials (Li-Poly), and yet, cost about the same. Two cents of 20mm x 38 nichrome wire plus another 2 cents for the case, and 9.96$ for fabrication, labour, and shipping?

Other than by using a completely different technology, I have come to the conclusion that the atties as they are now is probably the optimum design and its very unlikely they could be much improved upon. Also when you do a breakdown of all the work involved in their construction, I think it would be quite impossible for us in the west to ever compete with the Chinese on price.

This is half true. The ridiculous idea to make a reusable device look like a disposable one, really limits what can be done in the space provided. But, if we were willing to give up that silliness and perhaps bump the size up to that of a kazoo or a cigar, it would allow a lot more options as far as batteries and atomizers. Notably, higher voltage batteries would enable the use of less fragile heating elements.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Am I missing something here? Or buying from the wrong vendors? Attys are tiny and worthless and yet always seem to cost about 10$ (USD). They are not like batteries with switches, circuitry, and expensive exotic materials (Li-Poly), and yet, cost about the same. Two cents of 20mm x 38 nichrome wire plus another 2 cents for the case, and 9.96$ for fabrication, labour, and shipping?.

Tech--You are missing something here. No company is going to tool up and expend that kind of capital in set up costs on a product that is under such scutinity and a possible ban.


Sun

 

[surbitonPete]

Tech--You are missing something here. No company is going to tool up and expend that kind of capital in set up costs on a product that is under such scutinity and a possible ban.


Sun

how true ...the kind of specialised machinery required to make an atty on a high production basis would cost a fortune.
On the other hand the battery pack mods can easily be made in volume and cheaply on fairly standard machinery that most factories already posses.