Ay yi yi! I need help and explanations!

[dawgcrazy]

I have NO idea what I'm looking for LOL! I have no idea what half of this stuff is. Today, I bought my first SNUS...I got the Camel Frost, since that's what the gas station had. I actually like the flavor a lot, but the tingle was WAY too much for me, and the packet size is huge to me also. If it was 1/3 or even 1/4 of the size, I think it would be ok. So, how do the Swedish "mini's" compare in size to this? (I know it gives size in mm, but I don't do mm or math for that matter LOL)

Is the "tingle" from the frost flavor or the nic content?

These things are so big to my mouth, that they make me drool enough to want to spit...and when I didn't and swallowed it instead, it gave me MASSIVE heartburn instantly and severe hiccups, I almost vomited.

Also, what are tobacco bites? Anyone use these? Would this be more like something I am looking for? I read the page here and it says they are small and discreet, but doesn't say HOW small.

And finally my 4th and last question...HOW do you use nasal snuff? It looks like a powder...do you just dip your finger in it and stick it in your nose or do you actually line it up and inhale it or what?

I need something besides these dang stinky sticks to get my maoi fix....but these HUGE Camel SNUS packets aren't going to work for me. I'm trying to think of a way to make them smaller, but can't think of a safe way to seal them back up.

 

[bornagainst]

And finally my 4th and last question...HOW do you use nasal snuff? It looks like a powder...do you just dip your finger in it and stick it in your nose or do you actually line it up and inhale it or what?

For me, I place a small amount in the "anatomical snuffbox", which was named for just this purpose, actually.

I then gently inhale (GENTLY!), and get on with my day. It's pretty simple really, just make sure you have a DARK handkerchief with you in case you sneeze. A white one will look gross.

 

[dawgcrazy]

For me, I place a small amount in the "anatomical snuffbox", which was named for just this purpose, actually.

I then gently inhale (GENTLY!), and get on with my day. It's pretty simple really, just make sure you have a DARK handkerchief with you in case you sneeze. A white one will look gross.

Ok, that's pretty much what I thought. Ummm....just how long do you have to be aware of the "darkness" coming out from a sneeze after inhaling the stuff?? How often do you find you have to actually snuff? Does is last longer than an analog fix? Like, the pellets/bits/bites whatever they are, say they last about an hour. The SNUS says it lasts 30 minutes, then you take it out and I imagine it lingers a while after that yet.

 

[bornagainst]

If you don't sneeze, then you don't have to "expel" right away. Your body will tell you when, it's just like having to blow your nose normally. It's not as bad as it sounds...lol.

As for how long it lasts, it depends on the nic content. For example, TOQUE's "quit" formula has much higher nic than say, their basic chocolate.

Hope that helps a bit more. I only use it casually, so am not the biggest snuff expert. I just like it as it takes the edge off.

 

[dawgcrazy]

If you don't sneeze, then you don't have to "expel" right away. Your body will tell you when, it's just like having to blow your nose normally. It's not as bad as it sounds...lol.

As for how long it lasts, it depends on the nic content. For example, TOQUE's "quit" formula has much higher nic than say, their basic chocolate.

Hope that helps a bit more. I only use it casually, so am not the biggest snuff expert. I just like it as it takes the edge off.

I wondered because if I decided to try it....I do have allergies and sometimes go through sneezing fits. I don't want to be blowing brown stuff out of my nose all day or anything LOL! Actually, I don't think I wanna be blowing brown stuff out of my nose at all LOL!

 

[frogbmth]

how do the Swedish "mini's" compare in size to this?

There are photos on my page (in my sig) showing some next to a dime, if that helps

Andy

 

[slybootz]

as for snus, the camel frost is an american snus, very different from swedish snus. The tingle from the camel is from the high amount of mint and sugar they put in their product. Camel's snus always gave me hiccups and sometimes heartburn. I've never gotten that from any swedish snus. Most swedish snus tends to use more salt, which can be a shock to a new user. If you like the flavor of the frost, then I suggest trying a can of the General Mini Mints. They are probably about 1/3 of the size of the camel, and have a refreshing mint flavor. One you are comfortable with the general mini mints, then maybe try a general wintergreen white portion, if you want to try a larger size and different flavor. Depending on the brand of snus, i leave a snus in anywhere from 30min to 2hours. It's a learning process you start to understand as you go along.

I did buy a little box of Oliver Twist tobacco bites from a local head shop months ago, but they were over 2 years expired...so I never tried them, or opened the package.

snuff is my favorite! I love buying new snuffs and sampling them. There are 3 ways you can snuff: pinch, pour, spoon

pinch: simply use your thumb and index finger and take a pinch of snuff out of your tin. Gently press/rub it in your fingers(the heat will bring the aroma to life), and then gently sniff it into your nose. DO NOT SNORT IT, you do not want snuff to go all the way back to your sinuses, but rather it should stay at the front of your nose.

pour: many snuff companies sell dispensers that make the pour method the easiest. You simple pour a little bit of snuff(start with a pile the size of an apple seed) onto the back of your hand, and sniff into your nose. There are many different places you can snuff off of your hand, some people like the anatomical snuffbox, some people like the webbing between thumb and index finger, some like the knuckle, some like using their thumb and index finger to make a little bowl...etc etc etc...just find what works best for you.

spoon: sounds simple enough...using a tiny spoon(either purchase a snuff spoon, or make one yourself), scoop a tiny bit of snuff onto the spoon and sniff into nose.

The places I purchase from:

snuff:
nicotinerush.com
mrsnuff.com

snus:
getsnus.com
swedish-snus.com(about 3 week shipping from sweden)

 

[dawgcrazy]

There are photos on my page (in my sig) showing some next to a dime, if that helps

Andy

Very helpful! Thanks so much. Thanks to Tropical Bob too for the informative video on the snuff.

 

[dawgcrazy]

as for snus, the camel frost is an american snus, very different from swedish snus. The tingle from the camel is from the high amount of mint and sugar they put in their product. Camel's snus always gave me hiccups and sometimes heartburn. I've never gotten that from any swedish snus. Most swedish snus tends to use more salt, which can be a shock to a new user. If you like the flavor of the frost, then I suggest trying a can of the General Mini Mints. They are probably about 1/3 of the size of the camel, and have a refreshing mint flavor. One you are comfortable with the general mini mints, then maybe try a general wintergreen white portion, if you want to try a larger size and different flavor. Depending on the brand of snus, i leave a snus in anywhere from 30min to 2hours. It's a learning process you start to understand as you go along.

I did buy a little box of Oliver Twist tobacco bites from a local head shop months ago, but they were over 2 years expired...so I never tried them, or opened the package.

snuff is my favorite! I love buying new snuffs and sampling them. There are 3 ways you can snuff: pinch, pour, spoon

Hrmm, I wonder if they have the tobacco bits in my local tobacco store? I'll have to check next time I go by there. I am very interested to see them. I'll probably try the mini snus and see if it's small enough. From the pics I saw, they still look a little big to me...about half the size of the Camel snus I have. I don't want anyone to be able to tell if I've got one in, and it is a little odd feeling to have something that large in there.

 

[dawgcrazy]

Did a search on the tobacco bits, and found this which says " Each pellet is approx 1cm long by 0.5cm in diameter."

Definitely much smaller than the mini snus...seems like more of the type of thing I'm looking for. Also says these last an hour. Of course, they are only .5 mg nic, but it's not the nic I'm looking for as I get that with my PV...I want the MAOI's. If I can't find them locally, I will be ordering them online.

Would still be interested to hear from anyone who has used them.

 

[Dredbull]

At work I am loaded up 95% of the time and no one can tell, now my snus head co worker looks like a deranged car salesman hiding a wad of something.

Drooling SUCKS!! I just spent a week drooling from a droopy lip!! no was not snusing but get the idea.
Upper lip, depending on the snus and drool factor its from near molar to under nose in upper lip.
Oh one thing about that webbing and upper lip there is a nice bundle of blood vessels and nerves there so some sub lingual nic rabid fixing.

Snuff is nice I use back of hand to portion and pinch and warm. The spoon is to just portion out, I did nic OD and felt my legs go rubber and get the sweats yesterday.

 

[Kitabz]

So, how do the Swedish "mini's" compare in size to this? (I know it gives size in mm, but I don't do mm or math for that matter LOL)

Here are the sizes. I don't show any Camels for comparison but if I remember correctly they're about a third as long again as the biggest one and maybe 2/3rds of the width. (I was surprised how big Camels were too when I tried them and I didn't really like the shape either.)

1) Mini - Mocca mint (5mg)
2) Mini - Tre Ankare (4mg)
3) Purified - Oomph Citrus & Lemon (6mg)
4) White (black!) - General Onyx (11mg)
5) White - General Sterk (11mg)
6) Portion - 1847 by Philip Morris (8mg)

These things are so big to my mouth, that they make me drool enough to want to spit...and when I didn't and swallowed it instead, it gave me MASSIVE heartburn instantly and severe hiccups, I almost vomited.

They tend to do that at the start (I mean when you start using them, not when you just put them in) and also when you've got them too far back in the mouth near the place when saliva enters the mouth (parotid duct - see below). The best place is right above your front teeth or maybe just over a canine.

 

[Kitabz]

There are photos on my page (in my sig) showing some next to a dime, if that helps

Andy

Oops sorry Andy, you beat me to it - that'll teach me to post before reading the whole thread.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Gee....not much to add from me at this point, other than maybe try this: Introductory Offer - GetSnus.com. You can get a free General Sampler for $1 shipping. It'll give first-hand what Swedish snus is all about with only the smallest investment .

 

[dawgcrazy]

Gee....not much to add from me at this point, other than maybe try this: Introductory Offer - GetSnus.com. You can get a free General Sampler for $1 shipping. It'll give first-hand what Swedish snus is all about with only the smallest investment .

Awesome! Thanks TV!

 

[dawgcrazy]

Ordered the General Mixed Sampler...I know it has packets much larger than I want, but at least it's got 4 different flavors, so I can get a decent taste of what it's like. Thanks again!

 

[Dredbull]

Dawg it is something that unlike giant plugs of dip easy mold to the upper lip area.


I have a full 5mg sized loose portion in a wad in mine... I use a prismaster which makes a football shaped plug but it melts and forms nice.

 

[dawgcrazy]

. I use a prismaster which makes a football shaped plug but it melts and forms nice.

Had to look that one up LOL! Interesting, but I don't think I wanna do the loose stuff. My boss does it and he's always got at least one piece of nasty stringy brown stuff in his teeth...ick!

 

[frogbmth]

Oops sorry Andy, you beat me to it - that'll teach me to post before reading the whole thread.

Well in fact you beat yourself as you wrote the article