Back to analog smoking for me!

[rickstar009]

I came.....i tried.........it failed

My experiment with the e-cigarette comes to an abrupt end…..months and months of buying this! e-cig…and that! e-cig, with this! accessory and that! extra spare part has officially ended with very unsatisfactory results

Nobody is to blame and i hold no Ill will towards anyone…..it just was not ment to be, the e-cigarette is still in its infant stage and to be absolutely honest with you its costing me more!! to buy e-cigarettes than it is to actually smoke analog cigarettes….and to be franc the whole point of the electronic vapouring devices was to not only save my health but was suppose to also potentially save my hip pocket from the weekly tobacco drain *unfortunately it was good in theory, but not so in reality*

So sad….To bad .......i guess

Maybe one day when the e-cigarette is perfected and all the kinks are worked out and the electronic cigarette becomes infallible and more robust it will be then i take another peek into the world of vaping once more

Until then.............


Good luck to everybody else……..may all your days be e-healthier and happy

 

[plastick]

Who cares if it costs more? What's worth more; your account balance or your lungs?

Sorry to see you give up. I've had success thus far. I say keep trying.

I agree a lot of these products still have many bugs to be fixed, but it's worth it to put up with them instead of inhaling 4000+ different chemicals and carcinogens. It's amazing that I can actually go outside and run again.

To each his own. Good luck!

 

[dc2k08]

rick, what about trying one of these new case mods. Jaaxx's looks easy enough to build for cheap. then just buy a bunch of cheap atties from your favourite chinese supplier in bulk and toss one every other week to a month - a bottle of goo, some blank carts and you're done.

 

[JustJulie]

So sorry, Rick.

Someone commented that we're all basically beta testers for e-cigs, and now that I've been doing this for about a month, I wholeheartedly agree. The equipment is at times finicky and prone to suddent death. The results are inconsistent--sometimes you get a great "smoke," and other times not so great. Few supplies are available locally, and virtually all of our purchases are online.

It can be incredibly frustrating at times.

I'm anxious to get my sister started e-smoking for her health. However, I worry that if it becomes too difficult, she'll be back with analogs. She has a busy, stressful life, and her e-cigs don't need to be another stressor. I'm doing everything I can to make this as easy for her as possible.

I'm pretty motivated at this point because while I don't find e-smoking as completely satisfactory as analogs, I do see the enormous benefits which make e-smoking preferable for me. So even with frustrations, I'm still committed.

I do, however, agree that e-smoking won't necessarily save someone money, especially if, like me, they're tempted to try new gizmos and flavors. But saving money wasn't one of the reasons why I switched to e-smoking, so I'm okay there.

I'm sorry that it didn't work for you. If you decide to give it another try, you know where we are.

 

[surbitonPete]

I can understand how Rick feels ........I sure want to stick with it for my health but it's the 'cashflow' that causes a problem for me.....it's so easy to budget for the cost of buying a packet of tobacco each week....but vaping is a whole different kettle of fish....... expensive parts can last just for a day or a few months.. you simply can't plan for how much you are going to have to spend each week.

 

[fz1bill]

I fear I'm heading down the same path as Rick. I hope not but, It is frustrating and time and money consuming.
For now I'll keep trying but if i have to keep buying new parts, I'll end up just saying "**** it"

 

[Vince1]

Hey Rick, If you're quitting e-cigs, Can I have your stuff? Hahaha Just kidding.

 

[rickstar009]

Plastick I understand what you are telling me, all the carcinogens and what not- I do use an analog filter that filters out the tar and some of the dangerous poisons, yes i know its better to vape but its just not for me, not right now anyway….good luck to you though mate….i am glad its working out for you

dc2k08 believe me i have had enough of the e-cigarette right now dude, I am done fiddling with all the parts –twist here-turn that-spin around 3 times and take a puff over there - just to get the e-cigarette to work …I am just done with it mate…As i said when the kinks are all worked out in the future then the Rickstar will be back----with avengeance


JustJulie hi by the way, we haven’t talked in week’s hon lol.
And i see you can feel my pain and know what i mean about these blessed e-cigarettes and there sometimes working, sometimes not! Moving parts. Most unfortunately e-cigs are banned here in Victoria, Australia so i have no local supplier to lessen my costs *I however! can and i am aloud to buy the e-cigarettes from other countries, but people just cant sell e-cigarettes here in Vitoria- we can only buy them from oversea's..and at a high! shipping charge mind you and the exchange rate between the USD and the Australia dollar is not in my favor right now--every 1 USD is worth $1.55 Australian
....Yeah i know.... Ouch!*
…I know its all about the health- And the money be dammed!...but that’s easier said than done if you are lucky enough to live in the United states of America, the land of the plenty and free…By the way Julie i was meaning to ask you
"you don’t want to adopt me by any chance do you??" you you you lovely creature you! No???
*well! it was worth a try anyway* -sigh- -sigh- lol….as i said i will just use my cigarette filters for now and wait an see what happens in the e-cig world abit down the road

And surbitonPete, at least somebody’s on my side, good on you mate, thanks! hehe.

God bless the four of you’s…may vaping be the answers to all your preys

*Sadly its just not the answers to any of my preys right now*

 

[rickstar009]

Hey Rick, If you're quitting e-cigs, Can I have your stuff? Hahaha Just kidding.

give's Vince a right good old kick up the ars.......... cheeky bugger Lol

yeah sure mate, whats your address? haha its all broken stuff as thats why i am giving up e-smoking *nothing lasts more than 2 weeks before it has stopped working on me *At best!*..but why send it to the tip i say pmpl

I have 300ml of wasted e-liquid just sitting in my fridge---but its mixed with my own ingrediance's, so i don't think anybody would wont that......i might just buy one more 901 and hope it lasts long enough to use the rest of my e-liquid with
*But i wouldn't count on it*

 

[Di]

hi rick,
if you are dumping your parts,
please send them to trumpybloke,
he uses them to practice on mods,
support your local aussie, lol

thanks, Di ......

 

[Heed]

I just don't understand how people end up spending more on e-smoking.

Factoring in a new atomizer each month + liquid + blank carts I still only spend, per month, slightly over what I was spending per week for analogs.

I can see how someone might want to spend more trying out various products, accessories etc., but I don't see how you must spend more.

Of course, that's just my particular experience, but I have a hard time imagining spending more per month on e-cigs than analogs.

 

[JustJulie]

Rick

Well, if I were in the market for an adoption, you'd be at the top of the list.

I'm buying my sister's startup stuff: (1) a cheap DSE901, UBS passthrough, and an extra atomizer and (2) a Janty Dura-C (hopefully to arrive in the not so distant future), and I'm giving her a pile of liquids to play with. After that, she's on her own. I'm hoping that with Janty's warranty (3 month batteries, 6 month atomizers), she'll be able to control her costs, at least for the first several months.

I feel for you, Rick. I was sooooo happy the first two weeks. My Dura was operating like a champ, I had a backup DSE901 from PureSmoker, and I was so happy with my Dura that I ordered a Kissbox. Yes, life was good.

And then the atomizer on my Kissbox died. Oh, well . . . popped in the second one . . . and it died, too. I'm waiting on replacements. (I had the foresight to order some spare generic atomizers for the Kissbox after that, so I'm up and running on the Kissbox.)

Week 3, the Dura batteries started dying. Yup, I'm still waiting on replacements for those batteries as well as a new PCC case.

If I didn't have my DSE901, I'd be soooooo out of luck. Yeah, I have warranties, but I still have to wait for replacement parts.

I think that it is quite possible for a heavy smoker to save money on e-smoking, especially if he manages to luck into some relatively trouble-free equipment. Even planning for a broken atomizer a month and a new battery every month or so, it can still be a bargain for a heavy smoker . . . especially when the cigarette taxes in the US go up in another month or two.

But in Australia, you're really stuck having to order from other countries. The shipping charges, exchange rates, and shipping time would be wretched enough without adding a string of defective products to the list.

I hope you still come by and visit. And I very much hope that it won't be too long before esmoking will become less expensive and more hassle-free for our Aussie friends.

 

[surbitonPete]

I just don't understand how people end up spending more on e-smoking.

Factoring in a new atomizer each month + liquid + blank carts I still only spend, per month, slightly over what I was spending per week for analogs.

I can see how someone might want to spend more trying out various products, accessories etc., but I don't see how you must spend more.

Of course, that's just my particular experience, but I have a hard time imagining spending more per month on e-cigs than analogs.

I just gave a rough calculation on the cost in two months of all the failed parts and the juice ....and it works out that so far vaping has cost me approximately 'twice' as much as smoking...but that's only because I was smoking roll-up tobacco and getting it duty free. If I was a packet of cigarettes smoker it would work out that I was saving money.

 

[Heed]

I...but that's only because I was smoking roll-up tobacco and getting it duty free. If I was a packet of cigarettes smoker it would work out that I was saving money.

Hehe, yeah, that kinda makes a big difference.

 

[JustJulie]

I can see how someone might want to spend more trying out various products, accessories etc., but I don't see how you must spend more.

I think the start-up costs can be pretty high, especially if you're careful and stock up with extra parts. And even with warranties, you're often out of pocket having to send defective parts back. So far in the last week, I've spent about $6 in returning defective stuff for replacement. Not a huge sum of money, but still.

But for me, I am quite confident that the bulk of my spending has to do with WANT rather than NEED.

 

[Heed]

Even startup was relatively cheap for me.

Starter kit: £20
Liquid: £20
Carts: £5

= £45

That kept me fine for the first month.

This month I picked up an extra atomizer and battery. Atomizer as my original has become a wimp and battery for convenience since my starter kit only came with one battery.

So, this month's cost are about:

= £35

Analog costs for me were just over £100 a month.

I won't likely need another battery next month, but will assume another atomizer.

Liquid: £20
Atomizer: £6
Carts: £5

= £31

Even assuming more costs of say a total of £50 a month that's still half of what I was spending on analogs.

I could buy a whole new starter kit each month and still come out saving money over analogs. I guess that's why I have a difficult time imagining e-smoking being more expensive than analogs.

 

[rickstar009]

Thanks julie I will be back at least to see if i am next in line on your adoption list, count on it darl hehe

But i will be back, that’s for sure, it depends on a quandarie of factors..ie...exchange rate*which is killing me here* The e-cig failure rate ...and some small odd an end factors.........mainly it’s the failure rate and the currency exchange rate that is the main culprit, i worked out today that e-smoking has cost me double! that of analog....its just not worth it when buying to Australia from other lands....my pockets are deep but no where near that deep...bad economy and less work hours also factor in.

dikerry hahaha yeah i will give my fellow Aussie trumpybloke some consideration for a donation of my e-cig spare parts Lol hmmm

maybe he can build me a super durable, hotted up, never break down e-liquid loving, vapor polluting type e-cigarette of my very own----ok i'm sold!--Di you got trumpybloke phone number by any chance? lol


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Rickstar will be back--have no fear---i'l be watching but in silence

P.S: By the way jeff at Janty did give me a refund for my defective Dura---i kind of took it out on him earlier today on this forum with a drunken rant...now its neither my fault or his...it is just what it is.

Are business relationship is some what strained now but i am hoping to get a refund for my kissbox which i was never happy with and which did not last me very long the replacement parts never came either...not sure what happened to them..again not his fault or mine..it just is what it is....

I will however let you guys know here how i go in getting my refund for the kissbox from jeff at Janty....

 

[surbitonPete]

Heed ....I must say it sounds like you have been quite lucky so far.....but I think you should double your order for spares......just in case .....lol

 

[ejfan1977]

Rick

Well, if I were in the market for an adoption, you'd be at the top of the list.

I'm buying my sister's startup stuff: (1) a cheap DSE901, UBS passthrough, and an extra atomizer and (2) a Janty Dura-C (hopefully to arrive in the not so distant future), and I'm giving her a pile of liquids to play with. After that, she's on her own. I'm hoping that with Janty's warranty (3 month batteries, 6 month atomizers), she'll be able to control her costs, at least for the first several months

.

Bingo! There in lies a problem, buying cheap products. People keep talking smack about Njoy, but I have had no problems with them. My Father's atomizer just went out last week, because he dry-smoked it, I called Njoy on Thursday and on Saturday the new atomizer was in my mailbox. I call that excellent Customer Service.
I did have a back up atomizer because I have two pen styles (different colors) so my Father was not without during that time.

As far as the cost of Njoy, I do not think they are overpriced, I have seen start-up kits priced much more. Sure I see kits for much less as well, but Njoy's pricing is right about in the middle and I myself have no problem paying a little more and hopefully getting better Customer Service and replacements. I think sometimes we get what we pay for....

This has been my experience so please do not start flaming hate upon me because I have chosen to share my opinion and experiences. Thank you!

 

[JustJulie]

No flames from me, ejfan.

But even the more expensive products have glitches, and even companies with reputations for great customer service have been stumbling of late due to delayed shipments, faulty equipment, etc.

If your father hadn't had you around to provide a spare atomizer, he would have been very frustrated. And if he lived in a country where replacements were, by necessity, shipped from another country, he would have been beyond frustrated.

There is no way around it . . . even with good products with good customer service, there is a frustration factor involved for most people. I'm glad, however, that you seemed to have escaped the frustration.