Batteries

[cddz]

Sorry OM - but you have to admit - he is a pretty smart guy but I promise never to mention it to him again.

CDDZ - you are a man that is for sure. I asked you a question.
Were you not listening to me? Pay attention!

When the vapor is almost nil - is it already too late - did it drain too low?

LOL
guess i did miss one part, Those batteries have a built in protection cicuit that cuts them off @2.5v. Wait that wa not your question, I do not vape much at 6V, but as long as you charge the batts when you notice the vapor drop off. A volt meter would be a good investment if you choose to use unprotected batteries.

 

[cmdrmaxwell]

will these work as well?

 

[cddz]

will these work as well?

I am using the UltraFire 18650 @ 2600mAh they are red batts

 

[PKnowler63]

I think he was referring to the traditional ecigs, but i think the original question was about the 18500/18650s...not sure though =X

I'm curious.... What does it mean when you write =X ?

Thanks, Paula

 

[PKnowler63]

What does it mean to overdischarge battery?
I read that you should never overdischarge battery - huh?

Thanks, Paula

 

[halopunker]

I'm curious.... What does it mean when you write =X ?

Thanks, Paula

A big kiss or it could be that your lips are sealed.

I use it as lip sealed ;P

As for your second question, I have no idea...I'm sure chad would explain

 

[cddz]

What does it mean to overdischarge battery?
I read that you should never overdischarge battery - huh?

Thanks, Paula

It means when you discharge a battery to an unsafe voltage, some cells are 2.5v others are 2.2v. Depends on the working voltage. When you over discharge a battery it changes the chemical composition and can lead to venting/exploding. Hope this helps
Chad

 

[sattec]

What do you guys think about these batteries?

3000mah Ultrafire

They will fit.

Chad

I read this and ordered the batts, they don't fit unless you buy the new bottom too.....

 

[cddz]

I read this and ordered the batts, they don't fit unless you buy the new bottom too.....

The longer bottom is only required if you ordered from the very first batch.

 

[sattec]

it's cool, I'm happy to have new bottom on the way....

 

[Wakadoo]

I've got a weird thing happening on one of my batteries that I got with my SB (the 18650's). I've had them for about 2 weeks or so (was the second pre-order). They seem to last me about 2 days before I see a big drop off in vapor and throat hit. So I'd cycle them and put one in the charger and put the spare one in my SB. Well, tonight I swapped em out. Put the supposedly fully charged battery and nothing. Checked the voltage and it measured out at 4.23v. Put it back in and nothing... atty wouldn't heat up. So I checked the voltage while it was in the SB and it came up at 3.0v w/button pressed. Is this a shot battery? I'm wondering how everyone else deciding that their batteries need to be changed. Is there a voltage you go by or measure at? I was going by the loss of vapor and throat hit so I'm wondering what I did wrong? I sent an email to Rob but thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guys/gals might think.

 

[cddz]

I've got a weird thing happening on one of my batteries that I got with my SB (the 18650's). I've had them for about 2 weeks or so (was the second pre-order). They seem to last me about 2 days before I see a big drop off in vapor and throat hit. So I'd cycle them and put one in the charger and put the spare one in my SB. Well, tonight I swapped em out. Put the supposedly fully charged battery and nothing. Checked the voltage and it measured out at 4.23v. Put it back in and nothing... atty wouldn't heat up. So I checked the voltage while it was in the SB and it came up at 3.0v w/button pressed. Is this a shot battery? I'm wondering how everyone else deciding that their batteries need to be changed. Is there a voltage you go by or measure at? I was going by the loss of vapor and throat hit so I'm wondering what I did wrong? I sent an email to Rob but thought I'd throw this out there and see what you guys/gals might think.

How were you checking that voltage? If you were testing under load it could be a bad aty, check the resistaance on the atty.
Chad

 

[Wakadoo]

How were you checking that voltage? If you were testing under load it could be a bad aty, check the resistaance on the atty.
Chad

I would hold the negative lead to the SB with my thumb, and then push the button on the SB with my pointer finger. I would take the positive lead and carefully touch the center pin where the atty center would be touching. Same point as if you were checking the ohms on an atty. I did it again this morning and now the same "dead" battery is showing 4.22v and then when put into the SB and checking voltage when fired it shows 3.7v. Which to me SHOULD work. It doesn't. I measured the atty and it comes up as 2.4ohms. I also have a newer stainless atty that comes up as 2.5 ohms. It does the same thing. Now my other battery the one that does work with the same attys outside of the SB comes up as 4.068v, when I put it in the SB and do the same test while firing it comes up as well at 4.068v.

Side Note: To go from working and not working I just have to swap the 18650 batteries.
Update: Got home from work put it in the charger and it said it was charging it. Turned off after about an hour, popped it in my SB and worked for a whole second and then it was dead. Guess its a dud?

 

[cddz]

I would hold the negative lead to the SB with my thumb, and then push the button on the SB with my pointer finger. I would take the positive lead and carefully touch the center pin where the atty center would be touching. Same point as if you were checking the ohms on an atty. I did it again this morning and now the same "dead" battery is showing 4.22v and then when put into the SB and checking voltage when fired it shows 3.7v. Which to me SHOULD work. It doesn't. I measured the atty and it comes up as 2.4ohms. I also have a newer stainless atty that comes up as 2.5 ohms. It does the same thing. Now my other battery the one that does work with the same attys outside of the SB comes up as 4.068v, when I put it in the SB and do the same test while firing it comes up as well at 4.068v.

Side Note: To go from working and not working I just have to swap the 18650 batteries.
Update: Got home from work put it in the charger and it said it was charging it. Turned off after about an hour, popped it in my SB and worked for a whole second and then it was dead. Guess its a dud?

Yes I would say that battery is a dud, or at least the pcb on it is dead.

 

[sattec]

SWEET! These new batts really get my sb working again! The long bottom fits my hand better too! My old batts (worn out)were screwed compared to my new batts. I'm using the 18650's 3000 mah now.