Battery fell apart, please help.

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ckhk3

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This is for the halo triton. The black battery charging station for the triton battery fell apart. I was charging my battery, took the whole unit off the surge protector, twisted my triton battery off the charger and the black charger fell apart (not the part you sick in the wall, the part that connects the wall piece to the the triton battery), my battery was stuck inside but finally got that out but the charger is in three pieces. The 2 black pieces and the charging mechanism attached to the circle thing and usb part (sorry I don't know the actual names, I'm not into the mechanical definitions of electronics). I tried putting the 3 pieces back together but it just doesn't fit and I don't want to force it. Anyone have a pic or illustration that shows how it's supposed to fit correctly?
 

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it's 5 to 4.2 volts, have you ever licked a 9 volt battery? half the strength of that.
i'm guessing without knowing, the two black pieces snap and lock back in place, so see if you can see on one piece some tabs, and on the other piece a location for the tabs to fit into, you might be able to squeeze one of the black pieces a bit to ease them together.
I don't know, just making it all up
you should be able to use it in an emergency if you watch it, make sure nothing touches it, but for the price of a new charger against the cost of replacing a burned down house, it doesn't make much sense to keep on using it. the most dangerous part is the battery, but if something touches the charger, it might cause the battery to overheat, or what ever. be very careful.
and buy a few spares, I think there is a 15% off sale atm.
 

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Thanks so much for the response. I haven't licked a 9 vlt battery and I'm not going to try. I'll be a purchasing a new battery. Didn't know how sensitive electrical things can be. Happy holidays!

Do you mean you'll be buying a new charger? I'm just being cautious, the charger is low voltage, it won't electrocute you, but it connects to the battery, and the battery should be treated like a car with a full tank of gas, as long as you don't flick lit matches in the gas tank, it's perfectly safe.
If you lick a 9 volt battery, you just feel a tingle on your tongue, and the charger is lower voltage than 9 volts.
 

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No, very few. Halo has very robust hardware.

Over tightening is problematic, and not just Halo. . The tank and battery has grommets/insulators around the center posts. Overtighten, and the tank can leak, or short out, or break the contact. The battery center post can get pushed down, making contact difficult later. There is no need. Just a touch over snug for tips, coils, tanks and chargers. You should be able to loosen a tank from the bat with one hand.

(It is possible that ckhk3 had someone or a pet hit the battery while in the charger, and didn't say anything. I could totally see me or my siblings doing this to my Dad's, if they had such a thing back in the day...)

:)
 

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Another battery question.
A web search says to use an e-cigarette battery regularly to keep it in top form.
However, we have no idea how old a battery is when we receive it and how long it sat unused on the vendor's shelf.
Also, a battery has only about 300 charges in it's useful lifetime.
So, is this a valid observation? Use it or loose it???
 

DaveOno

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Somewhat.
Shelf life? Lithium has outstanding shelf life.

And batteries can and do last much longer than 300 charges. The capacity will diminish, but they will still function. Let's say you get 6 hours from a new battery. After 300 charges, the capacity might go down to 5 or 4.5 hours. But I have a pair of Triton VV and after more than 400 charges have about 80% of their original capacity.

However, subject them to heat, like leaving them in a hot car, and all bets are off.
 

usefulball

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You are definitely on to something there doctordun. I wonder the same thing, and have tried out a few batteries from a couple of places. In fact, I'm about to checkout my first Halo very soon :)

I try to stock up on cheap sale cigalike 808s, and found (with buying a number of cheapos of one type for example): some can be dead on arrival and there can be plenty of variation in the performance of the batteries. I've noticed a few different 'generations', it seems, of one brand of battery, even just in a year.
And even with higher-priced batts n such there seems minor, but noticeable variations in design and functionality. I've had some last days, weeks, and many months, and one real winner batt is going strong still... It is nice have backups and flavors galore around though for sure.
All that said, I've had good luck with a few classic brands, for my buck I reckon - despite a few duds and refunds (customer service has been fine across the board). I haven't tried a Halo, yet..

In general, like everything - you get what you pay for, though there are bargains to stock up on - sometimes that overripe fruit is the best! I'm pretty excited to see what's up with these Halos.

Anyway, the way I see it is that yes, these things are probably fine to sit unused for some time, I don't see any problem with having a few extras around, especially if the price is right. Though, I try to pretty much alternate my batts often enough so they don't go for more than a day or two on average without a use, but I haven't noticed a huge difference in ones that have sat a few extra days, so I'm less convinced about that one.
And as DaveOno describes there will be some performance decline over the long time periods even with the best maintained batteries.


ps I just powered-up a 'new' lil 65mm I got in June, thing charged up and is working like a champ. I am pretty weary of pre-filled cartomizers too, speaking of storage...
 

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I've had several Triton batteries just come apart on me. I usually just stick them back together except for once when the wires actually broke. I happens if I stick the Triton in my pants pockets and I would guess the back and forth movements of walking or sitting wiggles them until they come apart. So now I am very careful to check them to make sure the parts are fully together when using them.
 

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I had one Triton battery separate at the top, between the silver part with the threads and button, and the colored tube.

It didn't just come apart. It was in my front jeans pocket, and I was bending, squatting, moving a lot. When I reached for it, it had broke. Now this was the VarVolt battery, the longest Triton. At 6.7 inches with a tank, there's a lot of leverage towards that joint. It'd be more difficult to break a 650 or a 400 battery. Yes, the wire broke, or the ground wire. I was able to resolder it. I squeezed the tube a bit tighter at the top, and forced it back together. And it is still in service some 5 months later. My VarV Tritons are now 15 months in heavy service and going strong.

I am now careful with the Triton in front pockets. I unscrew the tank. Over time, that joint is subject to sideways forces, slowly stretching the tube wider. The silvered top is knurled and press fitted to the tube. CafeDigitalDiva sent me her VarV which had drowned in the bubble bath for an autopsy. I had a tough time getting the top off, using vice grips and a LOT of force.
 

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Thanks so much for the response. I haven't licked a 9 vlt battery and I'm not going to try. I'll be a purchasing a new battery. Didn't know how sensitive electrical things can be. Happy holidays!

Actually, licking a 9V battery is a pretty common technique for figuring out if it's dead or not.

If it's good, the result will be a fairly unpleasant "ultra-tingle" on your tongue (which is why you just lick it very briefly). If it's dead, nothing. Still, that's how I usually test them, even though I have a multimeter in the next room......
 

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make sure you are contacting Halo aboot this. they have recently relocated their facilities across the country, and it's conceivable there are new employees, uncalibrated machines, different suppliers, etc at play. it's all good and well to post here, but make sure to contact Halo CS and consider sending Randal a PM to let him know.
 
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