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I just ordered a Prodigy V3, and need some help and explanation on batteries.
I don't understand them, and before ecig's I never cared about them, until now lol.

So what is it I should stay away from, and why?

Give me everything you got, in the simplest terms possible PLEASE.
I don't know all the abbreviations nor do I know all of the batteries out there for Ecigs.

Jon
 

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I just ordered a Prodigy V3, and need some help and explanation on batteries.
I don't understand them, and before Ecig's I never cared about them, until now lol.

So what is it I should stay away from, and why?

Give me everything you got, in the simplest terms possible PLEASE.
I don't know all the abbreviations nor do I know all of the batteries out there for Ecigs.

Jon


Batteries power electronics.

Hope I helped!
 

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Einstein hasn't logged on, but I'll see what I can do. :toast:

The Prodigy V3 uses protected RCR123a lithium-ion batteries that deliver 3 volts of power and that last about 750mAh.

  • Protected means the battery is specially designed so it cannot be overcharged or drained completely.
  • The RCR123a is the size of the battery.
  • The volts are the strength of the battery.
  • The 750mAh are how long the battery lasts. To give you an idea of how long 750mAh lasts, the electronic cigarette I use has batteries that last about 180mAh, and that's about an hour of non-heavy vaping.
That's about all I know, so hopefully Einstein will log in and correct me and possibly add more info. :p

 
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Einstein hasn't logged on, but I'll see what I can do. :toast:

The Prodigy V3 uses protected RCR123a lithium-ion batteries that deliver 3 volts of power and that last about 750mAh.

  • Protected means the battery is specially designed so it cannot be overcharged or drained completely.
  • The RCR123a is the size of the battery.
  • The volts are the strength of the battery.
  • The 750mAh are how long the battery lasts. To give you an idea of how long 750mAh lasts, the electronic cigarette I use has batteries that last about 180mAh, and that's about an hour of non-heavy vaping.
That's about all I know, so hopefully Einstein will log in and correct me and possibly add more info. :p


Hehe I hope he does log on. :p

I don't get it though why would I spend a over $ 100 on a V3 that has 750mah, when I can spend $ 50.00 on a Riva and get the same amount of mah 750??
So confusing.
Einstein, log on already it's been YEARS!
 

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Hehe I hope he does log on. :p

I don't get it though why would I spend a over $ 100 on a V3 that has 750mah, when I can spend $ 50.00 on a Riva and get the same amount of mah 750??
So confusing.
Einstein, log on already it's been YEARS!

Well I don't know for sure but what I've read gives these benefits of a mod vs a Riva/Ego.

Better (sometimes all mechanical) construction
Batteries are cheaper, and are much higher quality
You can buy the batteries from a non e-cig site (fu ban)
They are sexy looking
3.7v mods tend to actually put out 3.7v, the ego/riva's put out 3.1v-3.4v
 

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I just ordered a Prodigy V3, and need some help and explanation on batteries.
I don't understand them, and before Ecig's I never cared about them, until now lol.

So what is it I should stay away from, and why?

Give me everything you got, in the simplest terms possible PLEASE.
I don't know all the abbreviations nor do I know all of the batteries out there for Ecigs.

Jon

you'll want to have the batteries that can effectively handle the amp draw, current, or power demands of your atomizer. the yellow tenergy lifepo4 batteries which come standard with the V3, the ones many people around here are using, won't cut it. on the tenergy website, these batteries are listed as 550 mA or .55A maximum continuous discharge/ or drain rate. a standard 510 atomizer is going to draw 2.6A at 6V and a high resistance or HV 510 atomizer, at about 4.2Ohms is going to draw 1.42Amps. whether you are using a 510, 901, KR808, 801, standard or high resistance (HV), you will exceed the amp draw of these tenergy lifepo4 batteries at 6V. The higher you go with resistance of your atomizer, with the same voltage, the lower the amp draw. however, you are also reducing the wattage, or heat, which is really what vaping at high voltages is really all about. bottom line is that to avoid voltage sag and to maintain the proper available current/ power for the atomizer that you use, you'll want the AW LiFePO4 batteries. they offer 5A or 5000 mA, which is almost 10X the capacitance of the tenergy lifepo4. even though they are rated at 500mAh vs the tenergy rated at 750mAh, they will last every bit as long if not longer, and they will not be stressed in doing so. battery companies have a history of inflating their runtimes, and tenergy is no exception to this rule. there are reports on different hobby and flashlight forums that suggest the tenergy Llifepo4 batteries have a true runtime of about 350mAh, and the AW at or around the advertised 500 mAh. having both i can only tell you that my experience with the AW's at 6V has been solid, and runtimes have been consistently longer than with the tenergy lifepo4 batteries.

so in sum, using just the advertised specs of both manufacturers, when vaping at 6V the tenergy batteries will not consistently offer the available amp draw for any atomizer configuration that we currently use. in contrast, the aw's can handle them all. intermittent burst to 2A or so is fine with the tenergy lifepo4 batteries, and this is pretty much what is recommended in terms of vaping at 6V anyway so as not to overheat, overstress, and prematurely kill the atomizer. however, and this is perhaps most important, you'd do better to go with the batteries from the door that are built to supply the necessary current, plus some, for longer periods of time than you would actually ever use. it's just being safe and ensuring that you get the voltage and the performance that you hope for out of the equipment that you expect to give it to you.

p.s. congrats on your purchase of the V3, nice call!
 

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Hehe I hope he does log on. :p

Einstein, log on already it's been YEARS!

OMG, he exists right here on ECF! :shock: E-Cigarette Forum - View Profile: Einstein

I don't get it though why would I spend a over $ 100 on a V3 that has 750mah, when I can spend $ 50.00 on a Riva and get the same amount of mah 750??
So confusing.

It's probably the same reason you buy the Levi jeans instead of the Wrangler jeans. They're both equally good - you just like something about one better than the other. ;)

The more I look around at all the different kinds of mods that are available, the more similar they all seem. They've all pretty much got the same stuff going on under the hood. It's about looks, feel (some with more rounded corners, others out of wood), and functionality (some can stand up on their own, and others offer the luxury of a squeeze bottle of automatically fed juice). :D
 

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well, i like the riva...no argument there.

but i think the op purchased the v3 because they wanted voltage options, durability, and extended battery life among other things. the v3 can do the lower voltage thing too, just like the riva, but it can do it with a 17670 battery that has a realistic, not terribly inflated, 1600mAh protected battery that has 3A to effectively handle the amp draw from a low resistance and standard resistance atomizer. then there's the whole 6V thing, very un-riva like, but not for everybody. then there's 7.4V which i wouldn't recommend without a high voltage atomizer, something in the range of 5.2 Ohms, with quality batteries like the AW IMR16340, which would bring your wattage right at about the 5V "sweet spot" of a 510 atomizer for longer, hitting harder, and giving you vapor galore. a lot of subjectivity is involved in vaping, and that's all to be expected. but just based on some material facts, the op probably went with the V3 because it did in fact extend his battery life expectations, but also expands his options in terms of vaping more generally.
 

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Hahaha, I appreciate the heads up I was clueless :blink:

Any website suggestions for AW lifepo4 batteries?
Other then vaping websites which over charge for them.

usually i'd recommend lighthound for all your battery needs, but they are currently running low on these:

AW LiFePO4 3 Volt Lithium Rechargeable Battery

however, ikenvape has them in-stock for $6.99/piece here:
AW lifepo4

a little more expensive, but if you decide you can't wait and need them right away, ikenvape is a good guy and runs a very stand-up business.
 

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usually i'd recommend lighthound for all your battery needs, but they are currently running low on these:

AW LiFePO4 3 Volt Lithium Rechargeable Battery

however, ikenvape has them in-stock for $6.99/piece here:
AW lifepo4

a little more expensive, but if you decide you can't wait and need them right away, ikenvape is a good guy and runs a very stand-up business.

Well I was thinking about just ordering the V3 Base Kit, not the full kit.
so I will need a few batteries and charger.

Question; if I don't order the full kit, do I not get the 6 month warranty?
 
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