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kathie

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I have 5 shorty batteries, all but one are auto, and they each have their own "personality." The black and the gold auto both have a light, airy draw; the two purple autos draw very hard, almost to the point of being difficult, and the black manual is somewhere in between. All have good vapor production.

Does this difference imply that those with a harder draw are going to die sooner? Is this what happens when batteries get old? I've had them all for less than a month, but maybe the purples were older to begin with. Just wondering...
 

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Kathie, you may have a combination of things that are happening which may result in a harder draw. The first thing I would do is lift the posts on these batteries, to do this simply watch the video in the Sticky Section at the top of the page. The second thing I would do is take sewing needle and clean out the air intake holes located under the battery threads.

Hope this helps, please let us know. If you have any other questions feel free to pm me.
 
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Hey Max, I was just watching your cideo and was just wondering if you were actually able to turn the Carto connector? I tried that method a few times and never could turn the Carto Post. When I finally took a few Cartos apart the first thing I noticed is that they're pressed in, not threaded. The next thing I noticed was that even if I could turn the base there isn't anything that I could find that would either increase or decrease the airflow.

From my own experience I've gathered there are only 3 components that dictate airflow: Blockage of the Air Tube in the Cartomizer, blockage of the Air Intake holes on the battery (due to gunk buildup around the batt post), or Post height (which either covers or exposes the Air Intake holes).

Do you know what it is or why turning the Carto Post makes the airflow increase or decrease?

Sallyem originally posted about this method and came to the same conclusion as I did, did we miss something?
 
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Hey Max, I was just watching your cideo and was just wondering if you were actually able to turn the Carto connector? I tried that method a few times and never could turn the Carto Post. When I finally took a few Cartos apart the first thing I noticed is that they're pressed in, not threaded. The next thing I noticed was that even if I could turn the base there isn't anything that I could find that would either increase or decrease the airflow.

From my own experience I've gathered there are only 3 components that dictate airflow: Blockage of the Air Tube in the Cartomizer, blockage of the Air Intake holes on the battery (due to gunk buildup around the batt post), or Post height (which either covers or exposes the Air Intake holes).

Do you know what it is or why turning the Carto Post makes the airflow increase or decrease?

Sallyem originally posted about this method and came to the same conclusion as I did, did we miss something?

I just did this yesterday with a refilled Virginia carto and it worked perfectly. I put the cart on the batt and sucked a lot of air, my girlfriend on the phone could heard it. I said hold on and turned the post about a quarter turn counter clock-wise and started getting a good solid hit. I don't know the mechanics of why it works, but it worked. I first read about it in the fix for non-working cartos thread and was skeptical too. But if you should happen to get a cart that has a loose draw give it a try.
 
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Just want you to know Maxwell how much I enjoy your cideos. After all the success we had with the advancements of Carrot Cartomology if you had success I certainly applaud it. So by no means am I trying to be confrontational on your finding or attempting to be a pita, just sharing my experience.

Like I stated I have tried it several times and never could get the post to turn. As you know the slot on the carto post is extremely shallow and if a person isn't careful they could easily stick the screwdriver into their hand trying to hold the cartomizer in place.

Here's my theory on your results, keep in mind this is just my :2c:. When you went to turn the post, the pressure applied pushed the post down, allowing you to screw the Carto down farther on the battery threads which tighten the draw by covering the air intake holes on the battery.

You can test this theory by raising a battery post and threading a Carto. As long as there is gap between the Carto and the Battery you should get a pretty airy draw. Then screw the Carto all the way down as tight as it will go and the draw will have become much tighter. If you back it off, hit it, back it off hit it, you will notice the draw becomes more and more airy the further you back it out until you lose contact.

I don't know if you have a vice, if you do pull the pfill out of Carto and put it in the vice, then take a nail and tap out the batt connector base, I think you will see what I mean.

In any case keep those cideos coming! :2cool:
 

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While I agree with what you say about no threads in the carto, Snow, I do know the method works. It is HARD to get a turn, and I've never been able to get a full quarter, but when I just loosen that seal by turning, something breaks free and allows the airflow to return. Just raising the connectors doesn't seem to do it. I do it as a last resort, because it is difficult, but I still use it because it works for me. I don't question miracles. :)
 

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Don't get me wrong Joyce, I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm just saying I wasn't able to get the carto base to turn and after taking a part a few cartomizers like the one in my video...was never able to figure out why it would work if I could have turned it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeBwmVejNkk (start at the 3:47 mark)

When you look at the Carto Base Connector/Air Tube, if you turn it a quarter turn..what happens? The tube neither opens or closes and the round base being a pressed fitting neither rises or lowers. Now there are 4 slots groved into the bottom outer edges of the base, but that could be adjusted in relation to the air intake holes on the battery by simply repositioning the post on the carto or the battery.

Again, not trying to be controversial or a pita....just noting that I couldn't figure it "how" it makes a difference.
 
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