Battery questions once again.

[sumiquatchim]

Ive been searching for box mods for over 2 weeks. I still havent found a box mod which suits me and the settings i am willing to go for vapor. I have decided that box mods arent my thing. I havent made a sure decision, so dont judge me if i come back and change my mind. I was thinking on a stingray x with a plume veil and a copper drip tip to go along. Now the quesion i have right now are these :
1. Does the battery's positive part go towards the atty ?
2. When should i know that my battery is at 3.7 V?
3. Do i really need a volt meter ?

 

[sumiquatchim]

I might go for a copper manhattan aswell god know !!

 

[oplholik]

Here is a link that might answer your battery questions. Yes, you need a multimeter, it's a must have. Do your homework, and vape safe.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-reference-shop-new-experienced-vapers.html

 

[sumiquatchim]

Here is a link that might answer your battery questions. Yes, you need a multimeter, it's a must have. Do your homework, and vape safe.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-reference-shop-new-experienced-vapers.html

I know about that, i have read it many many times. My really really hard question isnt answered in that thread. When the vapor drops down the voltage is dropping aswell?

 

[Baditude]

• If you don't own & use a multimeter, how will you know your coil's resistance? (Only a fool believes that a certain number of wraps guarantees a certain resistance.)
  
  
• If you don't know your coil's resistance, how will you know the current draw from the battery?
  
  
• If you don't know the current draw from your battery, how will you know if your battery's amp limit is sufficient and not blow your face off?
  
  
• If you don't own a digital multimeter, an Omnitestor, or a 510 voltage meter, how will you prevent your battery from becoming over-discharged and be dead to the world?
  
  
• If you can't answer the above questions, then you will be taking unnecessary risks which could be quite dangerous to your life and limbs. Not to mention wasting battery after battery because you failed to buy a voltage tester.
  
  
• There are some certain essential "tools of the trade" that one requires when you have a mechanical mod and using a rebuildable atomizer.

The positive end of a battery faces the atomizer.
You may not know when your battery reaches a point when it should be removed from the mod and be charged unless you check the battery voltage with a meter.
And yes, you do need a voltmeter for that reason.

 

[sumiquatchim]

• If you don't own & use a multimeter, how will you know your coil's resistance? (Only a fool believes that a certain number of wraps guarantees a certain resistance.)
  
  
• If you don't know your coil's resistance, how will you know the current draw from the battery?
  
  
• If you don't know the current draw from your battery, how will you know if your battery's amp limit is sufficient and not blow your face off?
  
  
• If you don't own a digital multimeter, an Omnitestor, or a 510 voltage meter, how will you prevent your battery from becoming over-discharged and be dead to the world?
  
  
• If you can't answer the above questions, then you will be taking unnecessary risks which could be quite dangerous to your life and limbs.
  
  
• There are some certain essential tools of the trade that one requires when you have a mechanical mod and using a rebuildable atomizer.

I am buying a ohm meter. And i have learnt ohm law. Just that i want to be able to know if my battery is at 3.7 volts without checking it with a volt meter or multimeter. I dont see people using a voltmeter on their mech mods as the vape. There must be another way.

 

[Baditude]

Just that i want to be able to know if my battery is at 3.7 volts without checking it with a volt meter or multimeter. I dont see people using a voltmeter on their mech mods as the vape. There must be another way.

You have been observing experienced mechanical mod owners who can tell from the vapor production and their vaping experience when their batteries need to be pulled from their mods and replaced with freshly charged batteries.

As a novice, you'll likely not notice the subtle changes in the vapor that only comes from experience when the battery drops to a certain voltage. Before you realize it, the voltage has dropped down to 2.5 volts and the batteries are so wasted that they'll never recover. Over-draining batteries is hard on battery life expectancy, and they won't last as long as intended.

Go ahead and choose not to spend the $16 on a voltage meter, it's not my wallet. You'll probably end up wasting at least that much money on over-discharged batteries that will need to be replaced, so you'll probably break even in the long run. It seems foolish to me to waste hard-earned money on perfectly good batteries and have them go to waste because you were too stubborn to buy a voltage meter.

 

[sumiquatchim]

You have been observing experienced mechanical mod owners who can tell from the vapor production and their vaping experience when their batteries need to be pulled from their mods and replaced with freshly charged batteries.

As a novice, you'll likely not notice the subtle changes in the vapor that only comes from experience when the battery drops to a certain voltage. Before you realize it, the voltage has dropped down to 2.5 volts and they are so wasted that they'll never recover.

Go ahead and choose not to spend the $16 on a voltage meter, it's not my wallet. You may end up wasting that much money on dead batteries, so you'll probably break even in the long run. It seems foolish to me to waste hard-earned money on perfectly good batteries and have them go to waste because you were too stubborn to buy a voltage meter.

I am buying an efest luc charger. Shows voltage. I could just pop em in every few times to check the voltage on em. If youve ever ran an 18650 vtc5 on a 0.4 ohm build, running at 44watts i believe and at 3.7V it would be 34watts, how long were you able to go before poping in new freshly charged ones ? And i can tell if there is a drop in vapor, when i have smoked hookah i was able to tell. Not trying to compare but just saying. Now people will go ranting on how vaping is different but it was an example. And one more thing, i am ordering some kanthal and battery cases from kidney puncher. They trustable ?

 

[AzPlumber]

Yes Kidney Puncher is a good vendor and throw one of these in your cart also. SmokTech Omnitester - Kidney Puncher

 

[Baditude]

I don't build coils that low, so I couldn't tell you. I never go below 0.6 ohms.

That voltage-reading Efest LUC charger will do you a lot of good being left behind at home when you need to check your battery voltage.

From their reputation on this forum, Kidney Puncher is a trustworthy vendor, although I've never used them.

 

[sumiquatchim]

Yes Kidney Puncher is a good vendor and throw one of these in your cart also. SmokTech Omnitester - Kidney Puncher

Nah bro, getting mine from eciggity. but thanks anyways. And one more thing do you anything about this site and if their trustworthy ?
Eciggity!
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[AzPlumber]

Nah bro, getting mine from eciggity. but thanks anyways. And one more thing do you anything about this site and if their trustworthy ?
Eciggity!
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Vivid Smoke
Vape Royalty Offers HCigar Mods, Custom Bling Vapes, Custom Bling Mods, 3D Bling Vapes, HCigar Nemesis Mods

I don't have experience with any of those vendors so can't help you with first hand knowledge. However, lots of folks on this forum talk highly of Mt Baker Vapor

 

[anumber1]

I don't understand why you are so not going to get a multi-meter or set yourself up with the tools needed to enjoy the gear you are purchasing!

How are you going to diagnose the eventual problem with your setup?

I know my LUC charger's voltage meter reads .2 over what my multi-meter reads for voltage on my batteries when I insert them (they do come off the LUC reading 4.2 however). Is your LUC going to be accurate?

 

[sumiquatchim]

One last question. Is it important on what you wrap your coils on ? Does the size of a screw driver, drill bit matter ?

 

[Baditude]

One last question. Is it important on what you wrap your coils on ? Does the size of a screw driver, drill bit matter ?

Yes, the diameter of your "mandril" (drill bit, screw driver) matters in the number of wraps and the final resistance of the coil.

Here are two coil building calculators. Type in all of the variables to find how many wraps.

• Steam Engine
  
  
• Coil Toy

You'll also need to use an Ohm's Law Calculator

How to use an Ohm's Law calculator

List of tools & supplies

 

[sumiquatchim]

 

[sumiquatchim]

this is a old thing i found. the two on the right are 3/16 drill bits and some other crap i also have a looooads of screws and screw drivers. a bunch of allen keys and thing like that. could i use the mini screwdriver from my clone to make a 0.3 ohm dual coil using 26 gauge ?

 

[Baditude]

this is a old thing i found. the two on the right are 3/16 drill bits and some other crap i also have a looooads of screws and screw drivers. a bunch of allen keys and thing like that. could i use the mini screwdriver from my clone to make a 0.3 ohm dual coil using 26 gauge ?

Dude, if you've never wrapped a coil before, save the sub-ohm stuff for later. You're not ready for that yet.

 

[sumiquatchim]

Dude, if you've never wrapped a coil before, save the sub-ohm stuff for later. You're not ready for that yet.

but im getting my mech mod I hated that ego , it taste like a dead rotten roadkill. I really want to step it up and get into sub ohming. I may not be ready for building coils but hell if i dont do it now i wont ever do it.

 

[Baditude]

but im getting my mech mod I hated that ego , it taste like a dead rotten roadkill. I really want to step it up and get into sub ohming. I may not be ready for building coils but hell if i dont do it now i wont ever do it.

Sincerely, slow down. This is advanced vaping and requires serious research and education on your part. There are a lot of people here who will help you along the way, but until you learn the basics of normal coil wrapping, leave the sub-ohm stuff for later. Too much can happen quickly that is danderous. If you don't really know what you are doing, you can cause serious harm to yourself or others.

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