Battery questions

[kraze1994]

Hi,

I am in need of a large battery(1000mah+) that will last me all day. I am an extremely heavy vaper and need my batteries to last me. Everywhere I go I see don't use these batteries with attys below 2.0ohms since it can cause premature battery drain.

I've been looking at some 1300mah batteries but there is about a $10 price increase over the 1000mah batteries and I am not sure if it is worth it.

I am curious if anyone can give me any suggestions on what to do? Should I pick up a bigger battery or should I consider switching to a 2.0ohm atty?

Here are batteries that I've been looking at:
eGo 1300mAh Variable Volt Battery - Avid Vaper
Brother 1300mAh Replacement Battery - Avid Vaper
Mega Riva 1300mAh Battery - Avid Vaper

Please forgive me if this is the incorrect forum. I couldn't find one for general questions and this seemed to be the best fit.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi - what are you currently using?

 

[kraze1994]

Currently I am using Joye eGo Twist 1000mAh variable voltage battery and vaping at 3.2-3.4 volts.

 

[Katya]

Hi Kraze. How fast your battery drains depends on two variables; the voltage of your battery and the resistance of your atomizer. If you want to conserve battery life, you may buy a higher resistance atty or simply lower the voltage of your battery. The problem is, either will reduce the wattage (heat, power) of your PV and you may not be happy with the cooler vape.

Are you familiar with the Ohm's Law?

Wattage = voltage squared divided by resistance. Use this online calculator to find your favorite wattage and adjust the voltage (or resistance) accordingly.

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

I suggest you get another battery--you need to have at least two of them, in case something goes wrong. You can pick up a nice vision Spinner for less than you'd have to pay for an eGo-Twist:

AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | eGo Spinner Variable Voltage Battery

 

[KerryK]

If your vaping at 3.2 -3.4 then I would recommend the EgoT 18650 Mod, it has a regulated 3.3v head that I challenge you to drain in a day of vaping.

It also allows you to run in unregulated mode as well so you can get a vape off the charger of say 4.1 then declining voltage as your battery drains.

I use both settings depending on what I have on it, here's a pic of my copper with the Protank:



I have a couple of these, I can pack 2 and 2 tanks in a small ego case:

 

[Baditude]

Simplist and cheapest solution would be to change your delivery device's ohm to one of a higher resistance. Also use single coils instead of dual coils if that is what you are using.

Myself, I prefer using a PV that uses replaceable rechargeable batteries. Either a smaller PV that uses smaller batteries and just carry extra batteries in a protected plastic battery case. An example would be a BB ($85 mechanical mod from Altsmoke). It uses a 14500 battery of 700 mah (over 7 hour battery use) that is the same size of a AA battery. The PV should last years because of its durability, and the batteries are cheap ($7) and last a year.



Or, if you need a single battery to last all day, you'll need a larger PV to hold it. The Silver Bullet is another single voltage PV that uses an 18650 battery that will last an entire day. Also $85 from Altsmoke and extremely durable. You can also add a Kick to a Silver Bullet to make it variable wattage.



If you need variable voltage, for backups to my Provari I use variable voltage gripper-style box mods. They are comfortable to hold, are the size of a pack of analogs, and have voltage and resistance meters. The Smoktech VV Gripper is easily available for $30 and uses an 18650 2000 mah battery for all day use. The Segelei/Ovale V8 uses two 18350 batteries for the same all day use of battery time, but I'm not aware of any vendors currently selling them (also $30).

 

[DavidOck]

Or you might take a look at the Innokin MVP box mod, also VV, and 2600 mAh. Should last nearly anyone a day

 

[tnt56]

Or you might take a look at the Innokin MVP box mod, also VV, and 2600 mAh. Should last nearly anyone a day

I picked up a MVP on Tuesday and finally put it on the charger Friday night after work. The light was still green meaning it really didn't need charging. I must admit that I'm really not a good example for the vape time of one single device because I generally use 3 different one throughout the day. But the MVP does perform well. Look for "PBUSARDO's" review of it. Not to bad a price either. Just do a search for MVP and you can find it.

 

[wv2win]

WOW, $25 - $35 for a battery. The makers of eGo type batteries sure over charge for their batteries. When you can get a 2000 mAh battery for $10 and a 1600 mAh battery for $9 from one of the best battery makers in the world, I can't see paying this much for batteries.

Good luck with your search, though.

 

[Baditude]

WOW, $25 - $35 for a battery. The makers of eGo type batteries sure over charge for their batteries. When you can get a 2000 mAh battery for $10 and a 1600 mAh battery for $9 from one of the best battery makers in the world, I can't see paying this much for batteries.

I agree. Considering that eGo type batteries are only designed to last some 250 charges and are not as mechanically/electronically durable, it pays in the long run to get a PV that uses the less expensive, replaceable batteries.

However, those PV's have a higher up front cost. They are worth it in the long run because of their better construction and parts, but not everyone can afford that one time up-front cost.

 

[wv2win]

I agree. Considering that eGo type batteries are only designed to last some 250 charges and are not as mechanically/electronically durable, it pays in the long run to get a PV that uses the less expensive, replaceable batteries.

However, those PV's have a higher up front cost. They are worth it in the long run because of their better construction and parts, but not everyone can afford that one time up-front cost.

Agreed. Although depending on the model you get, the upfront cost is really not that much different. A Vamo for example costs $40 for the PV, $23 for two sets of batteries and $10 for the charger. But as you pointed out, in the long run you will be saving money.

 

[yzer]

Standard cylindrical battery choices for battery mods at approx. 1000 mAh range;

IMR 18490/18500 @ 1100 mAh
ICR 14650 @ 1050 mAh
IMR 14650 @ 950 mAh
IMR 18350 @ 700/800 mAh.

For a battery that will last all day long for almost every vaper: IMR 18650@ 2200 mAh

 

[kraze1994]

Thank you for all of the replies!

Let me give you some more insight on what I am currently using as my setup. I recently switched to a tank system from dripping. I am using these carts at 1.5 ohms.
X2 Dual Coil 510 Pre-Drilled (punched) Cartomizers - Avid Vaper

The only reason I am on lowrez is due to the hotter vape it produces and therefore a better throat it. Would moving up to a 2ohms cart seriously affect that?

I have no real interest in variable voltage, it was what was recommended to me by a friend due to them handling low-rez attys better. I also would prefer not to carry around such a large battery. The Size of a 1300mah battery is about as large as I want to go. I know that limits my options..

Would switching to a 2ohms cart just be the easiest fix?

 

[wv2win]

I've found the difference between a dual coil (I use 1.5 ohm dual coils) and single coils to be about 4 hours less vaping time on an 1800 mAh battery. If you are talking the difference between 1.5 ohm DCC or 2.0 ohm DCC I think there would be little difference.

If you are able to vape all day (no limits as to when), then you will need a larger battery to be able to get say 12 - 16 hours.

 

[kraze1994]

Alright, I will go ahead and pick up a few 1.7 and 2.0ohms carts and see how that affects performance and battery life.