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evielement

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I am new I have a Cool Fire 1 and it will not function correctly with trustfire 1200mah with PCB but it works fine with the cheapo tangsfire batteries (which I recently learned any xxxx"fire" batteries are low end). I want to buy batteries that will work well in my device and a charger so that I can use My cool fire as my go to vaporizer. What charger should I acquire and what type/brand of batteries work well in the mod? Is it not possible to use a PCB battery in a coolfire because of conflicting trip switches... or is the trust fire battery putting out too much energy and tripping some switch?
 

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Your MOD already has protection built within so protected batteries will not work as they conflict, had the same issue with my SVD but that's as deep as my knowledge gets on that one i'm afraid. I use AW and Efest batteries, they both seem similar quality, they're both safe and reputable and have around the same capacity.
I went for the UltraFire WF-128 charger and it works with loads of batteries including 18350,l 18490/500, and 18650's, it charges each batteries individually and does everything you'd expect an 'intelligent' charger to do.

Hope this helps :vapor:
 

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Always stay away from any battery with "fire" in its name. These are low end batteries and not to be trusted.

Trustfire2.jpg

You want to use a safe chemistry, high drain battery. These are unprotected Li-Mn or "IMR" battery chemistry. Not protected Li-Ion ICR chemistry.

There's a list of high-drain, safe-chemistry batteries in this blog on batteries:

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

You can't go wrong using the red AW IMR batteries. I recommend purchasing authentic AW's from RTD Vapor or another trusted dealer that deals with e-cig products.

awimr18350.jpg AW 18350 IMR 700 mAh battery


For chargers, I suggest either an Xtar or Nitecore Intellicharger, both of which can be purchased from RTD Vapor. If you wish to go top of the line, the Pila and Xtar VP-1 are the top two.

There's a lot of good info on batteries in the sticky in the Battery sub-forum:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...43-batteries-chargers-multi-meters-forum.html
 
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Regulated mods have their own protect-circuitry and the circuitry of a protected battery may interfere with it. Protected batteries aren't safe chemistry or high drain so you should avoid them anyway. Use safe chemistry (IMR or hybrid) high drain batteries. Your best choice is most likely the Panasonic ncr18650pf. High capacity and high drain. Samsung, Sony, Efest, and AW are generally considered to have very good batteries, but do choose their IMR or hybrid chemistry batteries (there's a list of good batteries somewhere on this forum but I'm on my mobile so I can't access it), and read Baditude's battery blog here on ECF. AND!!! buy your batteries from a trusted vendor as there are many fakes out there.

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That's a great battery, but is only available in 18650 size. The Cool Fire 1 uses 18350 size batteries. AW 18350 IMR is the best bet.

Good point :) I've been playing around with mechs and 18650s all day so I almost forgot that there are other sizes. The purple Efest 18350s appear to perform fairly similarly to the red AWs, though they're new on the market so they haven't been tested as much.

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I am wondering if the purple efests will even work in the cool fire as it has an amperage switch... I also am not afraid to admit I know nothing about electric current/amperage/voltage besides how to calculate wattage.

I'm guessing that you mean that the coolfire has a set amp limit. That only means that the device won't fire a coil at a voltage that'll exceed the set amp limit (not sure if the coolfire is variable voltage/wattage). How many amps are drawn depends on the resistance of the coil in conjunction with the voltage that the coil is fired at. The amp limit of the battery indicates how hard you can safely push the battery. A device will work with batteries of any amp limit, but you should always choose a battery with an amp limit that exceeds the maximum output of the device. The purple Efests are a good choice.

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(which I recently learned any xxxx"fire" batteries are low end). <--------- Not a true statement.

Surefire batteries are the best for a tactical light, which does not apply to vaping but just so you are informed just in case you find yourself in the desert with the bad guy.

There are Panasonic's that last quite long, they are not for the high amp stuff, than you have Sony which the VTC 3,4,5 all work for the higher amp rating.
 
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