I recently bought a Tiffany blue SMPL and an authentic tiffany blue tugboat v2 and I was wondering if I want a little battery rattle or none at all. I have a few mechs but I've always been biased on regulated devices and couldn't put down my ipv2 for anything until I got the ipv3 and now since I've gotten the SMPL and tugboat I've been neglecting my ipv3. There's just something about it that I love. Anyways I've been told by many different people you want a little rattle and many people you want none at all and I was wondering what the ECF community thinks. Any and all input is appreciated. Thanks!
Battery Rattle
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My Atty does fire with A little battery rattle. I don't notice any performance decrease either. I'm wondering if its better to not have any or a little. I know Zen, house of hybrids, designs there mechs so there is battery rattle. Know the people in the company personally.
The battery should be seated snug, with NO rattle. That's why Hybrids are more efficient than "standard" mods that use a 510 pin to connect the atty to the battery. Solid connections are the key to ANY electrical device.
EDIT: I was unaware that some mods were designed to have loose batteries.
EDIT: I was unaware that some mods were designed to have loose batteries.
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From when I was looking into this, it basically depends. Normally, you don't want any battery rattle. For a few, a small amount is desired. e.g., from house of hybrids:
Prooooobably not for me, I'd prefer not to be constantly applying friction on the wraps -- but to each their own. However when I used an SMPL it didn't have any battery rattle, and even looking at the above eliminating it won't cause any issues, you just won't be sliding the battery up and down via the switch. I think, but this is a bit out of my bailiwick.
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Prooooobably not for me, I'd prefer not to be constantly applying friction on the wraps -- but to each their own. However when I used an SMPL it didn't have any battery rattle, and even looking at the above eliminating it won't cause any issues, you just won't be sliding the battery up and down via the switch. I think, but this is a bit out of my bailiwick.
Hybrid connections are kind of picky, you MUST use an atty that has the positive portion of the atty 510 connection protruding from the negative surrounding portion or it WILL short the battery and probably fry it...i.e.-the Atlantis is NOT advisable for a hybrid mod (I fried a battery on a hybrid connection with my Atlantis) and if there is battery rattle BUT it fires when the firing button is pressed there is NO reason to adjust unless you PREFER no battery rattle...some people hate it, some do not mind it, if it fires you are NOT causing any damage by using it in this manner but if it bothers you then adjust it accordingly to get rid of it
duh, they are also working with Tugboat to make "tiffany blue" tugboat mods and tugboat v2's, that is why they are almost 200 dollars lol
Sweet. I have a few special ladies who would go crazy for a diamond encrusted version...
Unless you have a SUPER tight fit for your battery you are NOT causing any friction to the wrap and as long as it is firing and the rattle does not bother you, you are not doing anything wrong and the added benefit is say you do not have a locking ring for the firing button that little bit of extra tolerance will help it not fire automatically and just fyi, there is nothing innovative about a firing button that pushes up on the battery, almost all firing buttons do this unless it is a SUPER short firing contact...just saying
I heard of a CZ version but alas...no authentic diamonds yet...just tell her they are diamonds lol
Just get the lab diamond version...I hear they are harder to detect
You're sliding something along a piece of metal, so you're going to have friction. A piece of grit getting in there would make it much, much worse, but even water washing over things wears them down so yes, rubbing a battery against a piece of metal over and over is creating friction unless people are now lubing up their batteries.
Is it enough to damage the wrap? Given enough time, yes. If any grit is involved, definitely yes. As to how much time, I have no idea.
You're sliding something along a piece of metal, so you're going to have friction. A piece of grit getting in there would make it much, much worse, but even water washing over things wears them down so yes, rubbing a battery against a piece of metal over and over is creating friction unless people are now lubing up their batteries.
IMO...you would need a RIDICULOUS amount of time to cause ANY damage to the wrap unless there is a SUPER tight tolerance in your mod which (with the exception of the vapor flask I have) I do not own any that battery rattle caused ANY damage to any of my mods or batteries and I think I have a few to make this claim...
So unless you do not clean your mods or take them to the beach with you I do not see a scenario that would result in any damage to a wrapper without a LARGE amount of time to accumulate that kind of damage
Ok, so we agree there'd be friction.
In risk management, you have:Avoid: by eliminating the situation or activity causing it
Transfer: make it someone else's problem, e.g. insurance or put it on someone else
Reduce: reducing uncertainty, or hedging your bets
Retain: some risks are worth it
So we have a case where by constantly moving the battery up and down when fired, some risk is assumed (neither of us knows how much, but it's not 0%). That risk is assumed for the stated benefit of less cleaning of contacts over time, which no one seems to know much that works -- and even still, it'd just reduce the frequency of cleanings.
We can't transfer the risk, probably aren't going to hedge against it with lube, so for now I am going with avoiding it while to you it's worth it. That's 100% fair.
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definitely can't stand any battery rattle. I've even done a few crazy custom mods to make it so I don't have to adjust for battery rattle, cutting out custom pieces of hard foam, and the like....
Ok, so we agree there'd be friction.
Avoid: by eliminating the situation or activity causing it
Transfer: make it someone else's problem, e.g. insurance or put it on someone else
Reduce: reducing uncertainty, or hedging your bets
Retain: some risks are worth it
So we have a case where by constantly moving the battery up and down when fired, some risk is assumed (neither of us knows how much, but it's not 0%). That risk is assumed for the stated benefit of less cleaning of contacts over time, which no one seems to know much that works -- and even still, it'd just reduce the frequency of cleanings.
We can't transfer the risk, probably aren't going to hedge against it with lube, so for now I am going with avoiding it while to you it's worth it. That's 100% fair.
Agreed there is SOME amount of friction, although in some mods, depending on mod and battery, battery rattle as annoying as it is...is not avoidable without a looser connection for the positive pin (assuming that is the adjustment) just felt you were advising that it would destroy batteries when I have never had that effect in the mods that a more secure contact is preferable to eliminating battery rattle, I do not feel IMO that there is enough to destroy the battery wrapping (a very few mods with super tight tolerances aside) that could cause that damage before the life of the battery was entirely diminished...
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