Battery reading fluctuates

[Punk In Drublic]

Well I took a video but I don't know how to do that or even if I can post that but I did do an experiment. I put the batteries back in with the atomizer unattached and it wasn't doing the fluctuation I put the atty back on it and it instantly started moving without being fired at all like the battery fluctuation started immediately. And then I fired it and the percentage went down from 96% to 88% and then once I stopped firing it it went right back up to the 96 percent even though the actual picture of the batteries is still moving around it's not like flying all the way to the bottom and then back up to full it's just moving a lil and constantly. The percentage number doesn't seem to move as much but it has a couple times. I feel like it's just tweaking out. My voltage is staying the same my ohms are the same it's just the picture of the batteries and occasionally the number with the percent next to it. When I fired it just now the voltage went from 2.86 volts to 2.82 and danced around between 2.80 + 2.85 while I was firing it. And it's doing the same thing no matter what tank I put on it. I wouldn't have a problem with it so much except it's going to keep my screen on permanently and I'm not sure how much power that uses but I feel like it probably uses some this device doesn't seem to have a way that I can turn that off

Keep in mind the voltage you see on the screen is the voltage at the coil, not the voltage of the battery. World of difference.

The battery meter on the device is just a graphical representation of the current battery voltage.

As you fire the device, the device will request your prescribed power from the batteries plus a little extra for efficiency. While your batteries are delivering this power, their voltage will drop much below their current voltage state, then slowly return to almost the same voltage they were originally prior to firing the device. This is referred to as Voltage Sag or Voltage Drop. Example: Your battery maybe at 4 volts. Firing the device the voltage may drop to say 3.5 volts then slowly return to 3.9 volts.

Not all devices display this in a level of detail on the screen, I have seen it (can’t remember which device).

The atomizer will have no effect on this voltage sag – the amount of voltage sag will be dependent on your batteries, and your set wattage.

That said, the battery meter on the device should not fluctuate if the device is just sitting idle.

 

[Pigs]

I'm not really sure I understand most of the replies. When I look at the mod and the batteries are in the thing that shows you how much percentage you have left on your battery its literally moving all over the place constantly until I take the batteries out. It doesn't have seem to have anything to do with when it's being fired or when it's not it's just doing it constantly even when I turn it off with the five clicks it's still doing it it's just showing me a screen of a battery with the reading going all over the place. And it's keeping my screen completely on... it will not timeout. Maybe to give a better perspective I didn't fire it for 10 minutes and the battery still consistently kept moving around with the screen on I think the screen might be having a glitch but it's not doing it with any other factors just the battery. I guess I don't really understand how it even determines what amount the battery has been used or whatever so I'm utterly confused I just know it won't stop moving around and my screen can't shut off as long as it's doing that maybe I should try it with a different tank I don't really know how these things relate.

What you're seeing is completely normal for some Sigelei mods. It is nothing to worry about.

 

[englishmick]

Well I took a video but I don't know how to do that or even if I can post that but I did do an experiment. I put the batteries back in with the atomizer unattached and it wasn't doing the fluctuation I put the atty back on it and it instantly started moving without being fired at all like the battery fluctuation started immediately. And then I fired it and the percentage went down from 96% to 88% and then once I stopped firing it it went right back up to the 96 percent even though the actual picture of the batteries is still moving around it's not like flying all the way to the bottom and then back up to full it's just moving a lil and constantly. The percentage number doesn't seem to move as much but it has a couple times. I feel like it's just tweaking out. My voltage is staying the same my ohms are the same it's just the picture of the batteries and occasionally the number with the percent next to it. When I fired it just now the voltage went from 2.86 volts to 2.82 and danced around between 2.80 + 2.85 while I was firing it. And it's doing the same thing no matter what tank I put on it. I wouldn't have a problem with it so much except it's going to keep my screen on permanently and I'm not sure how much power that uses but I feel like it probably uses some this device doesn't seem to have a way that I can turn that off

I think it's normal for the volts to go down a little when it's firing like you describe above. An old worn out battery would go down more, but the range you described is fine.
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You didn't mention which Sigelei you have, at least I didn't see it. I had a Sig 20 tube mod and a couple of Sig 30 minis. They all had a glitch where the screen didn't turn off. If it happened and I didn't notice it would run the battery down to 2 volts eventually before it turned off. I trashed the 30's because of that, after they killed several batteries. The 20 did it very rarely so I kept an eye on it and turned it off when I wasn't using it. In the end the 20 went bad on me. It was sitting on the desk and it started overheating and smoke came out the bottom. Luckily I was sitting right there and had time to get the battery out. I don't know if that was related to the screen not turning off but it might have been.

So I wouldn't worry about the battery reading deal. The screen staying on is bad. That's a known problem with Sig's and if it starts happening I would get rid of the mods. At the very least it will kill batteries.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

When I fired it just now the voltage went from 2.86 volts to 2.82 and danced around between 2.80 + 2.85 while I was firing it.

Keep in mind the voltage you see on the screen is the voltage at the coil, not the voltage of the battery. World of difference.

To further add – the coil voltage will fluctuate as the device is adjusting to meet your prescribed wattage.

 

[AvaOrchid]

What you're seeing is completely normal for some Sigelei mods. It is nothing to worry about.

What a mess. I don't like the idea of the screen staying on fully lit permanently and having to take the batteries out to make it turn off. That just can't be a good thing for the batteries or for the screen. I don't think the little battery door is going to last very long if I'm taking the batteries out constantly: ( if it would just let the screen timeout I would be okay with it but since it doesn't...ugh

 

[AvaOrchid]

I think it's normal for the volts to go down a little when it's firing like you describe above. An old worn out battery would go down more, but the range you described is fine.
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You didn't mention which Sigelei you have, at least I didn't see it. I had a Sig 20 tube mod and a couple of Sig 30 minis. They all had a glitch where the screen didn't turn off. If it happened and I didn't notice it would run the battery down to 2 volts eventually before it turned off. I trashed the 30's because of that, after they killed several batteries. The 20 did it very rarely so I kept an eye on it and turned it off when I wasn't using it. In the end the 20 went bad on me. It was sitting on the desk and it started overheating and smoke came out the bottom. Luckily I was sitting right there and had time to get the battery out. I don't know if that was related to the screen not turning off but it might have been.

So I wouldn't worry about the battery reading deal. The screen staying on is bad. That's a known problem with Sig's and if it starts happening I would get rid of the mods. At the very least it will kill batteries.

I have the sigelei sobra I was wrong I've had it less than 30 days so hopefully the place that I bought it from will help. If it would just allow the screen to go off I wouldn't care but since the screen is permanently stuck on on even when I turn the device off I just don't see using the device. Thanks for your input. Also I'm super glad that you happened to notice that it was smoking before something bad really happened

 

[AvaOrchid]

To further add – the coil voltage will fluctuate as the device is adjusting to meet your prescribed wattage.

Yeah I'm quite happy with the voltage reaction. That seems quite normal to me from what I've read just making sure that everything else is working right and it really is just the battery display being wonky that being said I'm still not going to use the device since screen can't shut off without me taking the batteries out. Hopefully the place I bought it will help me out because I realized I haven't had it for 2 months I've had it for 28 days

 

[stols001]

The vape place should help. If not, most actual manufacturers have a slightly longer warranty, between 60 days to 2 years (but then you are talking some high end mods.) You should be within the vape shop's warranty but if you aren't, you can contact Seigel directly.

I own one Siegel mod and I'm not that fond of it. It's okay but nothing to write home about. It's in the vape closet but it's not TERRIBLE. I think Seigel is one of those companies you love or hate. Their mods look pretty well designed usually but I don't think they are the greatest vape of all time.

You could try for a return, if you want something else. The vape store MAY give you store credit if you ask for it.

Anna

 

[bombastinator]

Keep in mind the voltage you see on the screen is the voltage at the coil, not the voltage of the battery. World of difference.

The battery meter on the device is just a graphical representation of the current battery voltage.

As you fire the device, the device will request your prescribed power from the batteries plus a little extra for efficiency. While your batteries are delivering this power, their voltage will drop much below their current voltage state, then slowly return to almost the same voltage they were originally prior to firing the device. This is referred to as Voltage Sag or Voltage Drop. Example: Your battery maybe at 4 volts. Firing the device the voltage may drop to say 3.5 volts then slowly return to 3.9 volts.

Not all devices display this in a level of detail on the screen, I have seen it (can’t remember which device).

The atomizer will have no effect on this voltage sag – the amount of voltage sag will be dependent on your batteries, and your set wattage.

That said, the battery meter on the device should not fluctuate if the device is just sitting idle.

I am posing kind of a vague and possibly stupid question, but is it possible that merely making sure the electrical connection between the posts and the coil possibly help with this?

 

[Punk In Drublic]

I am posing kind of a vague and possibly stupid question, but is it possible that merely making sure the electrical connection between the posts and the coil possibly help with this?

Battery voltage sag? No, that will be dependent on your wattage and the batteries internal resistance. Higher wattage setting will result in a higher sag. Higher battery internal resistance will result in a higher sag. Battery voltage sag is unavoidable.

 

[englishmick]

I have the sigelei sobra I was wrong I've had it less than 30 days so hopefully the place that I bought it from will help. If it would just allow the screen to go off I wouldn't care but since the screen is permanently stuck on on even when I turn the device off I just don't see using the device. Thanks for your input. Also I'm super glad that you happened to notice that it was smoking before something bad really happened

Mine was a little different to yours. They should stay on bright for a few seconds, then go down to dim for around 20 seconds before they go black. When mine misbehaved they would stay on bright for 20 seconds then go to dim and not turn off at all. And it only happened once in a while. If I turned the mod off and back on it went back to normal. Your situation is way worse.

Hope the warranty works out.​

 

[AvaOrchid]

Okay so I went to the store did some shopping came back and decided to try it again and maybe just try a factory reset for the hell of it. When I put the batteries back in it it wasn't doing it anymore or at least it wasn't doing it as bad the screen was going off instead of remaining on and even though the numbers jumped around a little bit it wasn't too bad. And above all the screen was going off. Apparently it doesn't do it when the batteries are at 100%. So I'm guessing it's only going up for whatever reason and won't go down with the glitch. On another note right after I did a factory reset it stop doing the jumping completely however it was firing like it was really high wattage when it was on 10 watts at least that's as near as I can describe it like I had the preheat up really high or something it was audibly heating simultaneously when I hit the button even just to change the menu. And also and this is probably the most concerning for some reason every time I touch the button the battery percentage reader thing would go down an entire percent. Now it has 100% charge batteries in it and it's not doing that either so maybe it's usable as long as I keep my battery 100% charged at all moments.. the last thing I described where it seems like it was killing power each time I used it and where it seemed like it was really high watt how would I describe that in a way that makes sense or why might that be because without the numbers jumping all over the place I don't think anyone's going to warranty this.. but on the upside the mod actually might be usable even though I'm scared of it now. Oh and even though it seems to me that it was audibly heating up and too strong or something it didn't burn my wicking which is certainly not the best cuz I'm brand-new at rta's

 

[englishmick]

Okay so I went to the store did some shopping came back and decided to try it again and maybe just try a factory reset for the hell of it. When I put the batteries back in it it wasn't doing it anymore or at least it wasn't doing it as bad the screen was going off instead of remaining on and even though the numbers jumped around a little bit it wasn't too bad. And above all the screen was going off. Apparently it doesn't do it when the batteries are at 100%. So I'm guessing it's only going up for whatever reason and won't go down with the glitch. On another note right after I did a factory reset it stop doing the jumping completely however it was firing like it was really high wattage when it was on 10 watts at least that's as near as I can describe it like I had the preheat up really high or something it was audibly heating simultaneously when I hit the button even just to change the menu. And also and this is probably the most concerning for some reason every time I touch the button the battery percentage reader thing would go down an entire percent. Now it has 100% charge batteries in it and it's not doing that either so maybe it's usable as long as I keep my battery 100% charged at all moments.. the last thing I described where it seems like it was killing power each time I used it and where it seemed like it was really high watt how would I describe that in a way that makes sense or why might that be because without the numbers jumping all over the place I don't think anyone's going to warranty this.. but on the upside the mod actually might be usable even though I'm scared of it now. Oh and even though it seems to me that it was audibly heating up and too strong or something it didn't burn my wicking which is certainly not the best cuz I'm brand-new at rta's

Jeez, that sounds like yet another different problem. I had an old Provari that started overheating audibly. I finally figured out it was firing at max no matter what I set the voltage to. Try turning it down to the lowest setting it has and see if it still does that.

 

[AvaOrchid]

Jeez, that sounds like yet another different problem. I had an old Provari that started overheating audibly. I finally figured out it was firing at max no matter what I set the voltage to. Try turning it down to the lowest setting it has and see if it still does that.

I'm kind of wondering if maybe the sound was just the tank being flooded because I had it off the mod and it probably tilted too much and maybe that caused it to sound weird.. what a mess I think I'm being hyper perceptive now because I'm nervous. But now that the battery is at 100% the things work in like the first day I had it so I'm interested to see what happens when it goes down to 99%. I'm starting to maybe feel like everything's going to be okay as long as the screen keeps turning off and it's not burning anything up I did wonder for a minute there if it got stuck in temperature control somehow without me setting it to temperature control even though it was reading that it was in power mode.

 

[Pigs]

What a mess. I don't like the idea of the screen staying on fully lit permanently and having to take the batteries out to make it turn off. That just can't be a good thing for the batteries or for the screen. I don't think the little battery door is going to last very long if I'm taking the batteries out constantly: ( if it would just let the screen timeout I would be okay with it but since it doesn't...ugh

I missed that - so are you saying that even after 5 clicks of the on off button your mod stays on?

Okay so I went to the store did some shopping came back and decided to try it again and maybe just try a factory reset for the hell of it. When I put the batteries back in it it wasn't doing it anymore or at least it wasn't doing it as bad the screen was going off instead of remaining on and even though the numbers jumped around a little bit it wasn't too bad. And above all the screen was going off. Apparently it doesn't do it when the batteries are at 100%. So I'm guessing it's only going up for whatever reason and won't go down with the glitch. On another note right after I did a factory reset it stop doing the jumping completely however it was firing like it was really high wattage when it was on 10 watts at least that's as near as I can describe it like I had the preheat up really high or something it was audibly heating simultaneously when I hit the button even just to change the menu. And also and this is probably the most concerning for some reason every time I touch the button the battery percentage reader thing would go down an entire percent. Now it has 100% charge batteries in it and it's not doing that either so maybe it's usable as long as I keep my battery 100% charged at all moments.. the last thing I described where it seems like it was killing power each time I used it and where it seemed like it was really high watt how would I describe that in a way that makes sense or why might that be because without the numbers jumping all over the place I don't think anyone's going to warranty this.. but on the upside the mod actually might be usable even though I'm scared of it now. Oh and even though it seems to me that it was audibly heating up and too strong or something it didn't burn my wicking which is certainly not the best cuz I'm brand-new at rta's

When you press the fire button on some Sigelei mods (my 213 does this) it shows you real time battery sag. This is a good thing - accurate - and not something to be worried about. I'm pretty sure earlier posts have pointed this out.

 

[AvaOrchid]

I'm kind of wondering if maybe the sound was just the tank being flooded because I had it off the mod and it probably tilted too much and maybe that caused it to sound weird.. what a mess I think I'm being hyper perceptive now because I'm nervous. But now that the battery is at 100% the things work in like the first day I had it so I'm interested to see what happens when it goes down to 99%. I'm starting to maybe feel like everything's going to be okay as long as the screen keeps turning off and it's not burning anything up I did wonder for a minute there if it got stuck in temperature control somehow without me setting it to temperature control even though it was reading that it was in power mode.

I missed that - so are you saying that even after 5 clicks of the on off button your mod stays on?

When you press the fire button on some Sigelei mods (my 213 does this) it shows you real time battery sag. This is a good thing - accurate - and not something to be worried about. I'm pretty sure earlier posts have pointed this out.

Yeah I'm not at all concerned that it does that when I'm firing it I was concerned that it was staying permanently with the scream lit and the battery fluctuating for 10 minutes and then when I would power it down with the five clicks it would shut off sort of like you couldn't fire it there was no screen no wattage no anything just a picture of a battery fluctuating. It was off but it still apparently felt like it was drawing battery and was showing me a picture of a battery with the power meter in it still fluctuating. Even without touching the firing button or any other button for over an hour when the batteries were out the minute I put the batteries back in it automatically turned on and had the fluctuating battery. I was thinking that it had maybe fixed itself but now it's just flashing the screen goes off and then on again so I think it's well and truly screwed. The only way to use it without the screen wonking out is to keep the batteries at 100%

 

[AvaOrchid]

Well I thought I had magically fixed it or it had decided to work again but it only works if the batteries are fully charged and I do mean fully charged. It is definitely just to clarify not the step down indicator of the batteries while I'm firing it. It does it without me ever touching the firing button or any other button.. the minute I put the batteries in if it's not reading them at 100%. Even when I turn the mod off it still shows me a picture of a battery fluctuating and it's flashing the screen over and over again as though its still drawing power. Let's hope I can get something done about it from the people that sold it to me. There's a lot of nice stuff on their site that I would really like to buy one day but if they can't back me up on this I don't think I will.

 

[DavidOck]

Well I thought I had magically fixed it or it had decided to work again but it only works if the batteries are fully charged and I do mean fully charged. It is definitely just to clarify not the step down indicator of the batteries while I'm firing it. It does it without me ever touching the firing button or any other button.. the minute I put the batteries in if it's not reading them at 100%. Even when I turn the mod off it still shows me a picture of a battery fluctuating and it's flashing the screen over and over again as though its still drawing power. Let's hope I can get something done about it from the people that sold it to me. There's a lot of nice stuff on their site that I would really like to buy one day but if they can't back me up on this I don't think I will.

At this point, with all the extra info, imo it's starting to sound like a failed component in the mod, so best to pull the battery and try to get a refund or exchange. Siglies are usually pretty solid, if not fancy, but stuff happens.

 

[Ryedan]

Well I thought I had magically fixed it or it had decided to work again but it only works if the batteries are fully charged and I do mean fully charged. It is definitely just to clarify not the step down indicator of the batteries while I'm firing it. It does it without me ever touching the firing button or any other button.. the minute I put the batteries in if it's not reading them at 100%. Even when I turn the mod off it still shows me a picture of a battery fluctuating and it's flashing the screen over and over again as though its still drawing power. Let's hope I can get something done about it from the people that sold it to me. There's a lot of nice stuff on their site that I would really like to buy one day but if they can't back me up on this I don't think I will.

From what you say above AvaOrchid, in my opinion there is definitely something wrong with the electronics in that mod. If it were my mod I would take the battery out and not put it back in. It just wouldn't be worth the risk to me to vape it again.

Hopefully the supplier will do right by you. Once they see what you describe above, they should!

Best of luck with it

 

[AvaOrchid]

At this point, with all the extra info, imo it's starting to sound like a failed component in the mod, so best to pull the battery and try to get a refund or exchange. Siglies are usually pretty solid, if not fancy, but stuff happens.

Yeah that's where I stand with it. Hopefully the store will cover me but if not I guess all hope to be one of the lucky people that have no problem with a manufacturer warranty I'm well within the time for that. Not sure about the store because the day I purchased it was over a week from the day that I got it which makes me a couple days off from 30 days if they're counting from the day I bought it rather than the day they shipped it or the day that it got here. Had they not delayed the shipping because they were out of something that they said they were in stock of and had it broken down after the same number of days from when I would have otherwise received it I would still be within the 30-day warranty if that makes any sense.. it's not really an expensive product but still you would think that a brand new mod should last more than 28 days regardless of its price