Battery step up from eGos?

[Myk]

The Twist batteries cost $25+. The Zmax and Vamo batteries cost $11 and last 2 - 3 times longer (lifetime) than the Twist and provide 8 - 14 hours on a charge.

There is no comparison.

You can get the Vamo body for not much more than $25 from fasttech. (Not to mention in an emergency you should be able to get batteries at Radio Shack. Bad brand but any port in a storm.)
I got SS, 2 batteries and a good charger for $50. That's a way better deal than 2 Twists.

The 5 amp switch on the Vamo combined with the variable wattage (RMS) makes all the difference over the eGo Twist.

I don't know if it's the switch but it's definitely better performing. VW is great.

The only thing the Twist has is size and weight. What I really don't like about the Twist is no low battery warning.
I'm almost at my 3ml of average daily use through it (25.5 hours since starting on an 18650) and my Vamo reads 3.9v. It's the first battery so I'm not sure how much that means is left but after this I will.

Once I get a second Vamo I imagine I won't be buying very many eGo batteries because I have 4 new ones and my last ones are still going after a year. But I will still use them because I can only fit 1 Vamo and 1 eGo in my divided ecig pocket and I like to have flavor variety at all times. But I didn't mind the Vamo size while tilling the garden just now.

 

[volume control]

I am thinking of using these instead of my non VV egos

$24.80 iTaste VV Voltage Adjustable 800mAh Rechargeable Battery - two digit display / with USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Nice and cheap, just have to wait a few weeks for shipping.

Or this, which is basically the same thing except box shaped and much more battery life

$45.16 iTaste MVP 2600mAh Variable Voltage Rechargeable Battery with CE5 Atomizers at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping



I see a TON of suggestions for Vamo. I own two Vamos, and dont use either of them ever anymore. They were my first mod, and they are a good cheap option, and thats about all id give it credit for. The reason im not using them is i have an Evic, and in comparison the Vamo is super heavy even in 18350 mode. If you really want a vamo i may put mine up on the classies =) Youd need to get verified to see them though =(

 

[EddardinWinter]

I am thinking of using these instead of my non VV egos

$24.80 iTaste VV Voltage Adjustable 800mAh Rechargeable Battery - two digit display / with USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Nice and cheap, just have to wait a few weeks for shipping.

Or this, which is basically the same thing except box shaped and much more battery life

$45.16 iTaste MVP 2600mAh Variable Voltage Rechargeable Battery with CE5 Atomizers at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping



I see a TON of suggestions for Vamo. I own two Vamos, and dont use either of them ever anymore. They were my first mod, and they are a good cheap option, and thats about all id give it credit for. The reason im not using them is i have an Evic, and in comparison the Vamo is super heavy even in 18350 mode. If you really want a vamo i may put mine up on the classies =) Youd need to get verified to see them though =(

My Vamo has been busy collecting dust since I got my eVic, too. Now that I have ProVari, it will be even more idle. Honestly, I use my twists much more than my Vamo. But when it was my first VW mod, it was my primary device. I never got used to the rattlesnake deal.

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[Sassington]

Not trying to thread jack but you guys have made me look into the vamos... And now I'm seeing some love for the evic... All I have now is an Ego-C Twist and a vision spinner so I'm looking into a low cost option for a back up in case these bite it... Back ups for my back ups lol.

I'd want something that I can use my evods with and I see I'd need an adapter for the Vamo if I want to use my evods. Any votes for Vamo versus the eVic or vice versa?

Edit: the eVic looks like a lot of work... I should say, a lot of technical work... Firmware this and software that... I'm not sure if I want all that fuss.. Most of the jargon is way over my head.

 

[volume control]

Its funny you say that because I feel the the evic is easier to use. No hold this button 10 seconds for mode switching stuff necessary. Works great with my evods and is light as a feather. Im using it in 18350 made with an ego c upgrade tube. Like I said I own both evic and vamo, and the vamo is a dust collector. I think as long as the vendor has the latest firmware currently you really wont require further updates. Mine is off by an update and I really don't care lol



Also the evic isnt really a low cost option, but heres mine with evod

 

[Sassington]

Its funny you say that because I feel the the evic is easier to use. No hold this button 10 seconds for mode switching stuff necessary. Works great with my evods and is light as a feather. Im using it in 18350 made with an ego c upgrade tube. Like I said I own both evic and vamo, and the vamo is a dust collector. I think as long as the vendor has the latest firmware currently you really wont require further updates. Mine is off by an update and I really don't care lol

Hm, that's interesting to know... Haven't seen these used and I don't know what "switching stuff" or "18350 mode" means (ok, I know that's the battery #) but what I think I'm hearing from you is that the evic *seems* more complicated than it is but the vamo takes more steps to get going?
If that's the case, I can get on board with the evic.. Maybe.. Lol.. I'd prefer to mess with it as little as possible.

 

[wv2win]

The ProVari amp limit is 3.5

The twist amp limit is 2.5 (just like the eVic)

The Vamo amp limit is 5

Honestly, for a relatively new vapor, the amp limit is likely meaningless. I rarely hit my amp limit on my eVic. I never use the upper amp range on the Vamo. I have never needed to go higher than 3.5 amps.

EDIT: Like Katya said, the twist is not even in the same ballpark as a Provari. Not in any sense. Nor is it intended to be. The twist is a great introduction into VV vaping. It is small, simple, and light. The ProVari is none of those, and not a good choice for an early vaper. I went from Blus, to eGos, to lavatube, to Vamo, to eVic, to ProVari. You can skip some of those steps (not everyone is a Mod-monger like me) but it is a good progression, in my view.

If that new person trys to use a dual coil carto/atty, as many of us use, or many of the LR attys/cartos, the Twist just won't cut it.

 

[volume control]

Hm, that's interesting to know... Haven't seen these used and I don't know what "switching stuff" or "18350 mode" means (ok, I know that's the battery #) but what I think I'm hearing from you is that the evic *seems* more complicated than it is but the vamo takes more steps to get going?
If that's the case, I can get on board with the evic.. Maybe.. Lol.. I'd prefer to mess with it as little as possible.

Well there is variable voltage mode, so you can select the voltage it runs at. Your typical battery thats not variable voltage runs about 3.4V. If you note when you purchase a new tank/atty/carto they will have an ohm rating. If youre stuck at 3.4V, then youre going to get a better vape at 1.8ohm than say 2.5ohm because the coil will run hotter. When the ohms are lower, if the voltage is the same(3.4v) then you are running a higher wattage, which is why the coil runs hotter.

So then there is variable wattage mode. This mode is the key to success in my experience. I set it to the wattage i prefer (which is 6.3W) and no matter what ohm rating the tank/atomizer/carto i put on, i get the vape i want to get, so no fiddling. (the vamo also has variable wattage, but moves in .5 at a time, and the evic .1 at a time, making the evic much better for fine tuning your vape)

The "switching stuff" There are multiple modes on both devices. To get from Variable voltage to variable wattage on a vamo you hold down a button for 10 seconds. On the evic you just hit the button 5 times to get to the menu, go to mode, and select VW. When i was new to my vamo i would forget how to switch modes and end up on google, on the evic i cant see that happening

The 18350 is a battery yes. The evic comes standard with an 18650 size battery and tube, which is a bit longer (its still shorter than the vamo and far lighter) But you can buy whats called an ego c upgrade tube, and use the 18350 battery, to shorten the device (and shorten battery size which means more charging) I feel that this is all really a matter of preference, as some people carry their vamo around with an 18650 and it is absolutely enormous like that!

Making any sense? I hope so lol. Dont forget no matter what mod you choose, there is a section on the forums dedicated to it, and tons of people willing to help answer questions, or fine tune and learn how to use your device =)

 

[lilmrsyeti]

I am thinking of using these instead of my non VV egos

$24.80 iTaste VV Voltage Adjustable 800mAh Rechargeable Battery - two digit display / with USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Nice and cheap, just have to wait a few weeks for shipping.

(

If you don't want to wait on long ship time, Hoosierecigs have this...it's a 1200mAh VV...goes from 3-6 Volts. My husband has this and really likes it..it even has a "Puff Counter" They've always shipped my stuff, usually the same day I order it, if not, then next.

KGO V.V. 650mAh

 

[lilmrsyeti]

If you don't want to wait on long ship time, Hoosierecigs have this...it's a 1200mAh VV...goes from 3-6 Volts. My husband has this and really likes it..it even has a "Puff Counter" They've always shipped my stuff, usually the same day I order it, if not, then next.

KGO V.V. 650mAh

Don't know why that link is showing 650mAh on this comment...but if you click on the link, it will take you to the 1200mAh

 

[Myk]

If youre stuck at 3.4V, then youre going to get a better vape at 1.8ohm than say 2.5ohm because the coil will run hotter.

I wouldn't say better, that's another matter of preference.
I never tried LR eGo-C attys but with Vivi Nova on eGo batts I liked the same 2.4Ω better than 1.8Ω. (Not that I'm finding Vivi heads to be overly accurate in their ohmage.)

 

[Sassington]

Well there is variable voltage mode, so you can select the voltage it runs at. Your typical battery thats not variable voltage runs about 3.4V. If you note when you purchase a new tank/atty/carto they will have an ohm rating. If youre stuck at 3.4V, then youre going to get a better vape at 1.8ohm than say 2.5ohm because the coil will run hotter. When the ohms are lower, if the voltage is the same(3.4v) then you are running a higher wattage, which is why the coil runs hotter.

So then there is variable wattage mode. This mode is the key to success in my experience. I set it to the wattage i prefer (which is 6.3W) and no matter what ohm rating the tank/atomizer/carto i put on, i get the vape i want to get, so no fiddling. (the vamo also has variable wattage, but moves in .5 at a time, and the evic .1 at a time, making the evic much better for fine tuning your vape)

The "switching stuff" There are multiple modes on both devices. To get from Variable voltage to variable wattage on a vamo you hold down a button for 10 seconds. On the evic you just hit the button 5 times to get to the menu, go to mode, and select VW. When i was new to my vamo i would forget how to switch modes and end up on google, on the evic i cant see that happening

The 18350 is a battery yes. The evic comes standard with an 18650 size battery and tube, which is a bit longer (its still shorter than the vamo and far lighter) But you can buy whats called an ego c upgrade tube, and use the 18350 battery, to shorten the device (and shorten battery size which means more charging) I feel that this is all really a matter of preference, as some people carry their vamo around with an 18650 and it is absolutely enormous like that!

Making any sense? I hope so lol. Dont forget no matter what mod you choose, there is a section on the forums dedicated to it, and tons of people willing to help answer questions, or fine tune and learn how to use your device =)

Yes, that does make sense for the most part lol. I won't totally get it unless I had one in my hand to tinker with it.. I need to research my options a bit more before I make a solid decision - money is a big factor and I will have to use that time saving up for it doing some searching first. I certainly don't want to shell out that kind of money for something I won't end up being happy with.. These things are an investment for me lol. You've helped out quite a bit here - thank you.

Time to go thread lurking haha!

 

[ElConquistador]

Before you give up on the ego batteries, have you tried gently lifting the contact on the battery? Turn it off, and very gently "pry" up around the edges of the little round contact disc you see when you look into the end of it, you are just trying to lift the contact a little. I use a tiny little eyeglasses screwdriver and nudge it up just a tiny bit.

I would say I have to do this about every 3 or 4 times I charge them. It goes from "nothing" to "normal" as easy as that. I think this will solve your problem with the 3 that don't work.

That said...I do love my Vamo

 

[Visus]

I'm sorry, not even close, lol.

The Twist comes with an under-powered 2.5 amp switch which limits the atty/cartos, etc you can use on it. Models like the Zmax, Provari and Vamo to name three, have switches that are 3.5 - 5 amps allowing you to use almost any atty or carto on the market.

The Twist batteries cost $25+. The Zmax and Vamo batteries cost $11 and last 2 - 3 times longer (lifetime) than the Twist and provide 8 - 14 hours on a charge.

There is no comparison.

Mine must be a freak, Im using mine with custom atty's everyday 1.2ohms is my sweet spot @4.3v, thats 3 amps, I could put a 1 ohm coil on it, it works just fine there.. the protection circuit kicks in @.08ohms. Rock solid, it lasts me depending on how heavy vaping between 6-10hours on 1100mah bat.

the frequency wave is actually the same as a dna board above 4v. mimics a direct battery connection with its flat signal..

lol

btw the switch is not in the circuit,----all of those are remote- who told you that a switch was in a provari or twist on any well put together vv circuit lied to ya.. lol

 

[wv2win]

Mine must be a freak, Im using mine with custom atty's everyday 1.2ohms is my sweet spot @4.3v, thats 3 amps, I could put a 1 ohm coil on it, it works just fine there.. the protection circuit kicks in @.08ohms. Rock solid, it lasts me depending on how heavy vaping between 6-10hours on 1100mah bat.

the frequency wave is actually the same as a dna board above 4v. mimics a direct battery connection with its flat signal..

lol

btw the switch is not in the circuit,----all of those are remote- who told you that a switch was in a provari or twist on any well put together vv circuit lied to ya.. lol

When I said the "switch", most everyone knows it means the "switch regulator".

And no disrespect intended, but I just don't believe your results or else you have something that is not a Twist. There have easily been a 100+ posts where the Twist won't even handle a 1.5 ohm dual coil atty or carto. From me and my friend experimenting with his Twist, we've confirmed the same result that it will not handle 1.8 ohm or lower DCC's or LR's below 1.6 ohm. The Twist just does not compare in performance to a Provari, Zmax, eVic or Vamo.

 

[Katya]

Mine must be a freak, Im using mine with custom atty's everyday 1.2ohms is my sweet spot @4.3v, thats 3 amps, I could put a 1 ohm coil on it, it works just fine there.. the protection circuit kicks in @.08ohms. Rock solid, it lasts me depending on how heavy vaping between 6-10hours on 1100mah bat.

the frequency wave is actually the same as a dna board above 4v. mimics a direct battery connection with its flat signal..

lol

btw the switch is not in the circuit,----all of those are remote- who told you that a switch was in a provari or twist on any well put together vv circuit lied to ya.. lol

It's not a freak.

Ohm's Law cannot be defied. V=IR holds true always, regardless of the variables.

If you have two 3Ω coils, you have a total resistance of 1.5 Ohms. Let's say you put a 1.5Ω atty on 4 volts:

4 V = I x 1.5Ω
I = 4/1.5
I = 2.67 Amps

If the battery can't supply that much current something has to give. Since you can't change the resistance of the coils to keep the voltage constant, the voltage must drop.

In other words, if the battery doesn't have enough amps, it will just drop the voltage... If the voltage drops, so does the wattage, as wattage = voltage squared divided by resistance (P = V²/R)

 

[volume control]

I wouldn't say better, that's another matter of preference.
I never tried LR eGo-C attys but with Vivi Nova on eGo batts I liked the same 2.4Ω better than 1.8Ω. (Not that I'm finding Vivi heads to be overly accurate in their ohmage.)

Youre comparing two different devices, its not relevant at all. Id rather use a better device at a subpar voltage as well(i have ego c tanks, they arent impressive at all, another dust collector). Im talking about getting a better vape from the same device. Such as an Evod head at 2.5ohm and 1.8ohm, youre going to get more flavor and vapor with the 1.8ohm at 3.4v than 2.5ohm. If your preference is a smaller vape then youre relatively unique afaik

 

[Myk]

Youre comparing two different devices, its not relevant at all. Id rather use a better device at a subpar voltage as well(i have ego c tanks, they arent impressive at all, another dust collector). Im talking about getting a better vape from the same device. Such as an Evod head at 2.5ohm and 1.8ohm, youre going to get more flavor and vapor with the 1.8ohm at 3.4v than 2.5ohm. If your preference is a smaller vape then youre relatively unique afaik

Huh? I'm comparing the same device, eGo batteries with a Vivi Nova top. What's the different device?
I liked 2.4Ω Vivi heads over 1.8Ω Vivi heads, both on the exact same battery, exact same setting. The only "different device" could be an eGo-C top which I also liked the 2.4Ω atty and never saw a reason to go to 1.8Ω even though attempts are constantly made around here to dictate that LR is a "better vape".

Actually I like it because I get better flavor, not a smaller vape. I started at 5w, went up and went down. One tasted better at 3.5w, one at 4w and one at 5w.
Burnt may be more flavor but burnt does not mean better.
As I said above it's another matter of preference. It doesn't matter how unique I am in my preference, it's still a matter of preference. I don't know why LR/HW fans can't admit that.

When it was a Twist and I said I liked it at lower volts all I heard was that it was because of the Twist's limitations. Now with the Vamo I still like it at 3-5w. What next, I need a Provari to really taste the bestest goodnocity of LR?
I will say the Vamo can go higher before tasting obnoxiously burnt so I would say anyone who likes higher wattages should get a Vamo/Provari/etc. But for a better vape that is still lower for me.

As far as vapor production goes, I see more out of Vivi Nova than eGo-C but not a huge difference between 3w and 10w. But then I vape PG free so I get plenty of vapor even when trying not to.

 

[ScottP]

Just thought I would throw this out there but the iTaste SVD is another relatively affordable PV ($7 more than Vamo tube only at Fasttech). It looks nice, is VV/VW and able to use pretty much any battery configuration.

 

[Folshen]

Not sure if its a different version or what, but switching between vv and vw on my Vamo is as simple as it gets, just press the + and - at the same time and hold for three seconds.


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