Beast Plus Box Styled 18350 Mechanical Mod

[claybuster]

I just received one from fasttech and it has problems and it will not fire, hoping someone here can help.

First problem: No pin in the 510 connection. It is supposed to have a: "Silver plated brass 510 center pin (adjustable)". This pin was not included, a missing part. I removed a pin from the bottom of one of my atomizers and it screwed in there fine, but not sure if I have the right depth. However, being it is adjustable, so long as there is a pin in there I think it should work.

Second problem: I put in some fully charged 18350's and this mod will not fire. I am thinking there is a wiring issue here, but I am not savvy at wiring Mods (well, I have never tried, but have tinkered around with some soldering in the past). Is there suppose to be a wire from the bottom of the 510 connection over to the button? There is a wire (red) soldered to the back side of the button (it is on the side of the switch, not in the small hole on the back of the button switch) over to the brass plate that makes contact with the batteries. The wire from the 510 connector (white) runs straight down and connects to the bottom battery plate.

I'm thinking the problem is not having the correct 510 pin in the 510 connector, or, this Mod was never wired correctly.

Any ideas greatly appreciated...

Charlie

 

[RAINCITYKILLER]

Is that wired 100% ... backwards or is it me?? The positive should be wired to the 510 and I'm not seeing that

 

[RAINCITYKILLER]

You could fix though, is the switch mechanical? I really don't know about this one. I buy some things from there but that looks like the thing is wired backwards. 510 pin should be wired to the +

 

[RAINCITYKILLER]

The - is the outside ring on the 510 so if that is wired to the switch then (not my fault if it blows) it should fire if you put the batteries in backwards BUT if I received that I would send it back and probably refund it. Looks cool from the outside and all but it's FT I'd rather save my face. Good one taking it for the team now I know to not order that.

 

[claybuster]

I sent it back this morning. I didn't think about trying the batteries upside down, that may have worked. However with the missing 510 pin it warrants IMO being sent back... Otherwise my Mutation atty would be minus one pin!

 

[pchestnutjr]

Looked like the switch was mechanical

 

[aikanae1]

I was just looking at that over at FT. It shouldn't make a difference which way batteries go in. However they make the best contact. But that pin issue. I'm glad they took it back. I've wanted one of these for awhile, but I don't want to mess with anything.

 

[claybuster]

Return is easy, goes to Miami if your in the US. Postage refunded with store credit when you upload them the receipt. Replacement is ready to ship once the return arrives to Miami. Hope the new one works when I get it!

 

[RAINCITYKILLER]

Yeah I have one of the tuglyfe boxes and it came with a bad switch, decided to just order a switch from somewhere else and convert it to a series.

 

[classwife]

Moved to Mechmods from E-Cigarette Technical Issues

 

[93gc40]

Even wired backwards, it should fire.... Unless you are shorting it by grounding the atty. The coil doesn't care which direction the current flows. Did you use a meter to determine NO fire or atomizers??? Could be a bad 510 connection.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I like it.
Id rip that thing apart and re wire it with a fully mechanical switch and some solid core romex copper wire.

 

[claybuster]

Even wired backwards, it should fire.... Unless you are shorting it by grounding the atty. The coil doesn't care which direction the current flows. Did you use a meter to determine NO fire or atomizers??? Could be a bad 510 connection.

Yes, used a meter on both the Mod and the atty. No power from the Mod. The atty checked in at 1.5Ω I'm 99.9% confident the missing 510 pin not supplied with the mod was the issue. The atomizer pin I used as a replacement must not have been hitting the right depth in the connection. Hopefully the new one being sent out will be complete with a pin in the 510. As far as wooden box mods go, I do like them and that is why I ordered this. I like my Tesla Invader II with the dual 18650s. The dual 18350 won't be putting out the power, but should work decent enough on 1.5Ω for a few hours!

 

[claybuster]

I got the replacement from FT this morning. Same setup with the wiring, but happy to note this one comes with a center pin...and it is working.

Talk about a cool vape...will have to go back to a mostly PG mix just to get some throat hit out of this. The vapor production is to be as expected with this set up, you won't be winning any cloud chasing comps with this one if you're into that sort of thing. However, for a novelty type of piece...it is what is is, and 18350 dual battery wooden box mod.

Which leads to my question, in your opinion if anyone cares to interject some thought...I have read that when using 18350 batteries, for battery safety, the lowest Ω you should be at is around 1.4Ω. Does that sound about right? Do you think I could drop this down a bit to say in the 1-1.2Ω range and still maintain safety with the 18350 battery? I am using a set of Best Fire 1100 mAh batteries which have the bogus 30A rating on them. On the 1.4Ω single coil 28G build is on the cool side, just wondering if I could drop it some.

Thanks,
Charlie

 

[Bad Ninja]

I am using a set of Best Fire 1100 mAh batteries which have the bogus 30A rating on them. On the 1.4Ω single coil 28G build is on the cool side, just wondering if I could drop it some.

Thanks,
Charlie

BESTFIRE?

I wouldn't use them in my flashlight.
Grab some decent 350s.
With good AW batteries I wouldn't be afraid of .7 ohm builds on that box.

AW IMR 18350s are rated at 6a and with dual batteries and the voltage drop in that wooden box you'll be fine.

 

[sacullen]

I wouldn't use those batteries at all. First, they GROSSLY overstate the CDR and capacity. Best I could find was a 4A discharge rate, but I couldn't be sure that wasn't pulse. With regard to capacity, even Fasttech themselves tested it out to under 800maH, which is closer to a realistic measure for an 18350.

Second, it's not a brand known in the vaping world. I was unable to track down any legitimate test results on how these batteries perform and for me, that sets off alarms. If the flashlight guys haven't compiled data on them, I have no reason to trust them. And that doesn't even take into account the whole "fire in the name" deal.

My advice is to drop a few bucks on new AWs or eFests. They're safer, more reliable, and would allow you to build much lower to get that warmer vape.

 

[claybuster]

I do have a pair of PVTSO which are rated at 5.95a, 800mAh. No problems with the purple Best Fires, they work fine but everyone including myself is skeptical about rating and safety of these batteries. They are not getting the least bit warm anyway which I guess is a good sign. I think most batteries out there will check in lower in mAh ratings then what is advertised. I will have to pick up a better set of 18350s and will be shopping around. I have on EH I think 18350 with little use on it I bought years back from Hoosier. I'll probably pick up another to make it a pair.

I guess I will try a .8Ω build and see how it goes. I'm kinda new when it comes to 18350s....

 

[claybuster]

Dual coil 28G .78Ω build working fine, purple Best Fires not getting the slightest bit warm.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I do have a pair of PVTSO which are rated at 5.95a, 800mAh. No problems with the purple Best Fires, they work fine but everyone including myself is skeptical about rating and safety of these batteries. They are not getting the least bit warm anyway which I guess is a good sign. I think most batteries out there will check in lower in mAh ratings then what is advertised. I will have to pick up a better set of 18350s and will be shopping around. I have on EH I think 18350 with little use on it I bought years back from Hoosier. I'll probably pick up another to make it a pair.

I guess I will try a .8Ω build and see how it goes. I'm kinda new when it comes to 18350s....

There are no 30a 18350 IMR batteries in existence.
No such animal.
Doesn't matter what the wrapper says.

Also, "best fire" doesn't manufacture anything. They buy and rewrap batteries, and there's no way of knowing what you actually have.

Quality batteries are crucial to safe vaping.

 

[claybuster]

There are no 30a 18350 IMR batteries in existence.
No such animal.
Doesn't matter what the wrapper says.

Yes, when I first mentioned these batteries I noted they had a bogus rating on them.
I have a pair of Efest 10.5A on the way ordered from Lightning Vapes.