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  1. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    So, I lost my vape kit and that happened at a really bad time and I ended up smoking again (Boo!) but now I am back, and things have chu-changed!!! That;s okay. I am an experimenter by nature, so I am buying three kits: an Envii Fitt an Eleaf icare, and an Aspire Spryte. All for what it would cost for about a carton of cigarettes. Does anyone know which (if any) ecig/vape companies are owned by big tobacco so I can avoid them?
     
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  2. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Greetings and salutations!
    Welcome back to the fold.
    Rumor is, altria, aka Philip Morris,, owns stock in Juul.
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  3. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    Thanks for the head's up, and thank you for the warm welcome! I am glad to be back!
     
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  4. 440BB

    440BB Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 19, 2011
    The Motor City
    Welcome back and glad you're getting off the smokes!
     
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  5. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    Me too.. I am really excited to be getting my kits because I don't want to be buying anymore cigs. I am very curious about nic salts because those were not around in the ol' days, and what I can and can't use those with.
     
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  6. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Hello @fourmedallions, heard a few folks on the forums tout the Justfog Minifit as a good stealth MTL pod.
     
  7. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Nic salts are, to my understanding, a formulation of the freebase nicotine molecule, where the free valence charge is neutralized with the addition of an acid. This alters the metabolic path, as well as prevents oxidation. I use Salts in everything. If I'm over 100w, I use 0.5mg/ml, above 30w, 1mg, and 3mg in a pod. There are two basic types of salts, smooth, and hit. Hit tastes slightly peppery, and has throat hit. Smooth is almost flavorless, and no perceivable throat feel, to me at least. I find the effects of salts to be more pleasant, which may be due to the lessening of biofeedback, like nausea, but I personally find even different brands of hit salts have different "feels."
     
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  8. MJCSD

    MJCSD Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 7, 2014
    usa
    Hello and welcome back
     
  9. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    Moedacai: I have a feeling the JustFog MiniFit is going to become a fav. It was a last second add-on, but I can't wait to try it.

    and wow..HigherState D - great info on the nic salts. That gives me a great place to start..ty!

    I just got my order confirmation number so my kits are on their way, Yay!!!
     
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  10. Flavour Crafters

    Flavour Crafters New Member

    Oct 11, 2019
  11. Hawise

    Hawise Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Mar 25, 2013
    AB, Canada
    There's an excellent post above about nic salts, to which I'll add a few more points. Nic salts were developed particularly for low-powered pod mods. The goal was to reduce the throat hit so the nicotine concentration could be bumped up higher. The original breakdown was:

    Pod Mods - Low powered, deliver very little juice per vape so tend to have very high nicotine concentrations (often 25 - 50 mg/ml (a.k.a. 2.5% - 5%))
    MTL - Mid-level power, moderate juice per vape so moderate nicotine concentration (often 3 - 20 mg/ml)
    DL - Higher power, plenty of juice per vape so less nicotine per ml (often 3 - 6 mg/ml)

    By varying the amount and concentration of ejuice, you should be able to get roughly the same level of nicotine regardless of the style of vape you prefer.

    Anyway, as you can see from @HigherStateD's post, salt nic has moved beyond the pod mod. Like most other aspects of vaping, it's now a case of 'whatever works for you'.
     
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  12. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Juul, Blu, and Vuse are owned by Big Tobacco.

    Those three allegedly have at least 60% of the market share.
     
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  13. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    Thanks Baditude. I suspected as much and now I know. My kits have already shipped and I can't wait to have them in my hands and not be staring at pictures of them!!
     
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  14. FlyerTom

    FlyerTom Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2009
    Nor'Eastern PA
  15. Horselady154

    Horselady154 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2013
    United States
    They really are. Love mine.
     
  16. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
  17. jandrew

    jandrew Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2013
    Winnipeg
    Well, an older flash drive (I mean some newer flash drives are the size of a thumbnail). Here's my minifit and an old flash drive:
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  18. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Thank you very much for that @jandrew, always useful for sizing for folks.
     
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  19. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    If you ever consider something more serious @fourmedallions, the Coppervape Hussar Project X with a serviceable mod or Squonking could well be of interest.
     
  20. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Orlando, Florida
    That is awesome! I'll be getting my kits on Tuesday and I'll post some pics when I get it. And I am definitely curious @Mordacai. Do you have any pics of that and any referrals for where I might be able to pick one up?
     
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