beginner Looking to get a small mod easy to use.

[Rhiannimal]

I have the istick eleaf power nano and the older 30watt bigger one,
. these are simple, just hold the button and change the watts. really nice and easy.

i want to get a "mod" that you use the external batteries because the nano is great for me size and ease wise but the battery life is awfull. (and it seems that the external ones have better battery life ?) the eleaf 30watt one gets me about 2 days life, but is too big and the nano is like 1/2 a day life.

the pico is one i have been looking at but it has all these settings/modes i dont need so im just wondering if anyone can suggest just an easy small sized mod with good battery life ??

i also dont know much about coils/watts or anything like that i am a total newbie with that stuff. I just use my eleaf at like 10 watts and use the nautilus tank and the melo 3 tank right now. thank you !

 

[DPLongo22]

I have the istick eleaf power nano and the older 30watt bigger one,
. these are simple, just hold the button and change the watts. really nice and easy.

i want to get a "mod" that you use the external batteries because the nano is great for me size and ease wise but the battery life is awfull. (and it seems that the external ones have better battery life ?) the eleaf 30watt one gets me about 2 days life, but is too big and the nano is like 1/2 a day life.

the pico is one i have been looking at but it has all these settings/modes i dont need so im just wondering if anyone can suggest just an easy small sized mod with good battery life ??

i also dont know much about coils/watts or anything like that i am a total newbie with that stuff. I just use my eleaf at like 10 watts and use the nautilus tank and the melo 3 tank right now. thank you !

The Pico is probably an excellent choice for you. Very simple if that's all you desire to use, and vapes nicely.

The other one that I've been liking a lot is the Vaporesso SWAG. It's a TINY bit larger (width only) but a fair amount lighter too. Its menu can be complicated, but it can be simple too (if you prefer that).

Both my Pico and SWAG run exclusively in Simpleton mode, because it's appropriate.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

The Pico might still be a good choice, even though it has bells and whistles you're not interested in. Yet.

If and when you do get interested in temp control, it does it pretty nicely, and its variable wattage options will let you use a broad array of tanks. It's something that will grow with you. But if all you want to do is press-to-vape, it'll do that with just a few button presses.

 

[Rhiannimal]

The Pico is probably an excellent choice for you. Very simple if that's all you desire to use, and vapes nicely.

The other one that I've been liking a lot is the Vaporesso SWAG. It's a TINY bit larger (width only) but a fair amount lighter too. Its menu can be complicated, but it can be simple too (if you prefer that).

Both my Pico and SWAG run exclusively in Simpleton mode, because it's appropriate.

thank you ! i think i will get the pico i really like the idea of being able to have a charged battery back up to just swap out instead of having to plug it in and wait.

 

[Hawise]

Most mods now have a bunch of other modes and fancy settings, but you don't need to use them. They all have the basic set-your-watts-and-press-button-to-fire mode.

A replaceable battery mod with a single battery should last 2 - 3 times as long as the Nano, provided you pick a good battery. The Pico's a good one to consider. You might also try Wismec's Sinuous P80 or Joyetech's eVic Primo mini.

A very important consideration for someone getting into replaceable battery mods is getting a safe battery. All the 18650s (18650 is the size of battery used in most mods, including all the ones I've mentioned) on the chart at this link will work well for you at 10 W:

Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum

At the bottom of the chart, in the blue area, you'll see a list of reliable battery vendors. It's best to get your batteries from one of them as it lowers the risk of getting stuck with a counterfeit battery.

You'll also need to decide whether you want to get an external charger or charge your battery in the mod. A lot of mods will let you use them while you charge the battery, but this isn't healthy for the battery. If you do get a charger, you'll probably want one made by Xtar, Nitecore or the LUC line by Efest.

If you have any questions at all about either mods or batteries, please feel free to ask.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Great minds, @DPLongo22 ... great minds.

Oh, on battery life. Using Samsung 25R's I'll get about 1-1/2 days on one charge. More than two days on a Samsung 30Q.

 

[Rhiannimal]

thank you ! i am definitely going to get a charger for the batteries.
I have to buy in canada and i found the pico on a few sites i use regularly and the battery they sell is a sony it said. i know it takes a 18650 battery but thats all i know. theres all these other things like 25A etc.. i dont know about though lol. i know somewhere it said recommended for pico is 25A and up, so im assuming i can buy the sony 3000mAh 18650 30A one?

 

[Hawise]

thank you ! i am definitely going to get a charger for the batteries.
I have to buy in canada and i found the pico on a few sites i use regularly and the battery they sell is a sony it said. i know it takes a 18650 battery but thats all i know. theres all these other things like 25A etc.. i dont know about though lol. i know somewhere it said recommended for pico is 25A and up, so im assuming i can buy the sony 3000mAh 18650 30A one?

There is no Sony 3000 mAh 30A one. If you go to 30 A, you're limited to 1500 mAh (mAh more-or-less tells you how long a battery will last between charges. The CDR (30 A, in this case) tells you how high your wattage settings can go.) The good news is that if you're staying under 50 - 60 w, and it sounds like you are, you can use a 20 A battery that does have 3000 mAh. Those are probably the most commonly-used batteries for vaping.

 

[Rhiannimal]

Great minds, @DPLongo22 ... great minds.

Oh, on battery life. Using Samsung 25R's I'll get about 1-1/2 days on one charge. More than two days on a Samsung 30Q.

the pico on the one site i was looking at has the option to add a battery to the order and the choices are either sony VTC56 3000mAh 30A or the sony VTC5 2600mAh 30A

are those good choices ?

 

[Rhiannimal]

Sony 3000mAh VTC6 18650 Battery - 30A

There is no Sony 3000 mAh 30A one. If you go to 30 A, you're limited to 1500 mAh (mAh more-or-less tells you how long a battery will last between charges. The CDR (30 A, in this case) tells you how high your wattage settings can go.) The good news is that if you're staying under 50 - 60 w, and it sounds like you are, you can use a 20 A battery that does have 3000 mAh. Those are probably the most commonly-used batteries for vaping.

Sony 3000mAh VTC6 18650 Battery - 30A this is the one i was looking at

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

the pico on the one site i was looking at has the option to add a battery to the order and the choices are either sony VTC56 3000mAh 30A or the sony VTC5 2600mAh 30A

are those good choices ?

Yes they are, but they're over-rated by that vendor. Those are both 20A batteries, not 30A. But your vaping style pretty much guarantees that you'll never need a 30A battery.

 

[Hawise]

Sony 3000mAh VTC6 18650 Battery - 30A this is the one i was looking at

Wow, that's really inaccurate. That's the problem with a lot of vape shops - they don't handle batteries well.

The Sony VTC6 is actually a perfectly good battery for vaping, it's just not 30 A. Sony calls it a 15 A battery, and Mooch found it could handle 19 A. Either way, it's more than enough power for you at 10 w.

 

[Rhiannimal]

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Yes they are, but they're over-rated by that vendor. Those are both 20A batteries, not 30A. But your vaping style pretty much guarantees that you'll never need a 30A battery.

oh those buggers, i wanted to get a 25A at least because every where i read says thats recommended for the pico, but i dont know if its really needed.

 

[Mr. Relentless]

Vtc6 is a good batt

 

[Hawise]

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oh those buggers, i wanted to get a 25A at least because every where i read says thats recommended for the pico, but i dont know if its really needed.

It certainly isn't if you're vaping at 55 w or less. The Pico can go up to 75 or more watts, depending on the version, and you would need a 25 A battery for that.

 

[Rhiannimal]

It certainly isn't if you're vaping at 55 w or less. The Pico can go up to 75 or more watts, depending on the version, and you would need a 25 A battery for that.

thank you, i feel way better about buying this now .

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

thank you, i feel way better about buying this now .

Awesome!

You're sure to have more questions later on. Don't be shy!

 

[stols001]

Yep, at your wattage, you are actually better off with something that doesn't go that high, but offers you better overall battery life. I made the mistake of putting a Sony V6 etc in one of my provaris, and it actually offers me worse life overall than my regular old Sanyos that are not rated for high wattage (which I don't use) but longer battery life. It really is accurate that getting the battery that best suits your purposes is the best thing to do (at least so I have found.... )

Anna

 

[Rhiannimal]

are the external batteries more dangerous in any way at all ?

 

[Hawise]

are the external batteries more dangerous in any way at all ?

That's a really hard question to answer. From what I remember, internal batteries actually have a more dangerous chemistry. However, external batteries are out and about more so more things tend to happen to them. The key point to remember is that batteries don't just decide to blow up for the heck of it. To stay safe:

• Don't ever carry a battery loose in your pocket. Actually, don't ever let a battery hang around loose. When not in the mod or the charger, make sure it's always in a case or skin.
  
• Do not use a battery that's physically damaged, and that includes damage to the wrap (the plastic that covers it). If the wrap gets nicked, it's cheap and easy to rewrap a battery. If you don't want to do that, many vape shops will do it for free.
• Don't ask too much of the battery. This usually happens in mech mods so it's not so much of an issue for you, but also stay under the 50 - 60 w I mentioned earlier. It's very unlikely a battery would blow up even if you turned the wattage up as high as it would go, but it's better not to try it.
• Get a good charger - one of the ones I mentioned earlier will be fine. A cheap charger can overcharge batteries, which causes problems.
• If something 'weird' happens - a battery really heats up, something strange happens with the charger - recycle the battery. If you're not sure if something's a problem, drop by the forum and ask before you use the battery again.

The most common causes of fires or explosions (and such events are extremely rare, despite the attention they get) are batteries carried loose in a pocket (which bump into something metal and short-circuit) or mech users who don't understand what they're doing using a coil with resistance that's too low.