Benefits of a replaceable battery mod?

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madangus

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Yeah you can get a sigelei mini 30 and a nitcore d4 charger and a couple of samsung 25Rs for about 70 bucks probably less now. The sigelei 50ws are decent too. There are better long term options that are made here, like a provari or a hex ohm, but the sigelei is on the higher end of the imported options.

Personally, i switched to the replaceable batts to both save money in the long term and have something that would fare better if regulations get real crazy.
 

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I got a couple of the original isticks when they came out and they're ok for what they are.
I prefer to use batteries of my choosing and don't really like charging a battery/s in a mod.
Even with mods that have on board charging and replaceable batteries I would still use a separate charger.
Though Im sure most are ok for people who don't want to have to buy batteries and chargers.
 

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Well most people like the Samsung 25R 18650 batteries and the Sony vtc 4 or 5's though the 5's are hard to come by and Ive read that sony haven't been making them for a while.
I have been very happy with the Samsung 25R.
Some people also like AW batteries though I think they don't have as high an amp draw as the Samsung and sonys which means they're not to use on low ohm builds.
The Samsung batteries used by many people seem to always get good reviews.
 

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You just have more options.. 1 battery mod for smaller size, 2 for longer battery life.

My setup which has been working well with april, of course theres a tonne of reviews and opinions on here to help too :)

Charger, 32 bucks http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L10CO7U?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01

Batteries, most mods use the 18650 size. There is a lot of info on ecf about this, but to summarize (please ecf veterans correct me if i am off) but...
AW batteries, great but popular so there are fakes
Samsung inr or lg he2/he4 or panasonic (can't remember model) are considered best fir safety and life...
18650 Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mAh High Discharge FLAT Top
18650 LG 18650HE2 2500mAh High Discharge Flat Top

Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More! Sell genuines and are trusted. Saving 2 bucks on batteries is false economy, ao avoid surefire/trustfire any price that seems to good to be true


 

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You will have more choices with mods (especially the high end) when replaceable batteries are involved. To reitterate what other have said, the istick is fine but you pay 50 - 75 bucks it will recharge only a set number of times then its dead.

Get your own charger and batteries and a good quality mod will last you for easily twice as long
 

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Samsung INR18650-25Rs are probably the best bang for the buck, I get them from Illumination Supply. I've got Sony US18650 VTC4s and VTC5s from there as well, and the Samsung 25Rs seem to hold up just as well. They're available many other places, and generally are not counterfeited.
I use mods with replaceable batteries simply because I use mechanical mods. The couple regulated (read: wires and solder, more to go wrong) mods I have coming use replaceable batteries because I expect the mods to outlive the 6-16 month life expectancy of the batteries.
 

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Good starting off 30w mod great unless you are subohming, you may want the 50w or higher fir that...
Sigelei Mini 30W Watt Box Mod
33 bucks plus the charger and batts.

Def. more than an istick 30, you will probably spend 75 total versus 40 but it should last longer. And you can use the charger for a long time.

Just some ideas :)
 
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I have a routine now where i batts die.. I grab the 2 i have charged, if its daytime and i'll be home for a few hours, charge the dead ones, put em in the wee plastic box and leave them on desk or out in bag. That way you won't ever have to wait.

Keep your spares in a plastic box to prevent them intefering with other metal stuff you have. Not sure how common it is, but the ecf folks recommend it and i trust their experience :)
 
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At first, I was totally against the idea of a mod that didnt come with the batteries. I didn't pay attention to my 50w istick and realize it was at about 20% charge on a friday night when I was leaving at 6am the next morning for a fishing trip. Needless to say, I got out there and used it for a while, and then it died on me. At that point, I realized my only options were to either deal without it, or trust charging it in my car unattended. I really didn't want to do either, but I chose to just go without it. It was at that moment that I realized how beneficial a mod with replaceable batteries was. I now have eight 18650 batteries(4 VTC4s and 4 HE2s). I make sure I always have 2 pairs fully charged in addition to what is in the mod, so I can just grab one of the boxes of charged ones any time I go somewhere. If the batteries in the mod die, I just swap the fresh ones in there and go right back to hitting my vape. From now on, I don't think I will be buying any mods with built in batteries. Sure, the charger and batteries make it cost a little more, but knowing my device will be fine even if some of the batteries stop holding a charge makes the extra cost worth it.
 

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Removable battery mods are brilliant!

You're thinking there is a catch... that it all works out more expensive and seems to offer no benefit.

Good batteries are not expensive anymore. Inbuilt batteries will die and then the whole mod gets thrown away, unless you are an electrically-minded tinkerer.

A year or so ago, the hassle was buying the charger as well, plus the battery and... well, it was all a lot of fuss.

Now... buy the mod, buy the battery, put the battery in the mod and charge it up using the same USB system we use from wall to mod (like iStick) and then....one day, you can put a brand new battery in (better performance/battery life). Ultimately, you still have the mod. :)

Most of us have old mods and to a certain extent, they won't get used (under-powered), but the latest mods are plenty powerful enough, if you choose the right one for your vaping style.
 
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There are advantages and disadvantages, of course. A fixed battery pack is generally better for a person who wants to vape and not mess with it; provided you don't mind your mod being a disposable. With removable batteries, the primary advantage is speed of recharge. Just pop in fresh batts and you're good to go. They take as long to recharge, mind, but they don't leash your mod to a wall wart or car lighter plug while it's happening. That same, expensive, stand-alone charger is also an advantage, provided you pay for an expensive ($30-50) one. With fixed batts, you get a charger board the size of a dime and a LED that turns off or on or changes color when it's charged. A stand alone charger has better electronics, more safety features, and good ones with an LCD readout tell you a lot about your batteries; enough so you can figure out when it's time to take them out of the hi-powered contest mod and swap them over to your low-power pocket puffer, or replace them entirely. You don't get surprised like that, as happens when you plug in your iStick the day before leaving on vacation to discover it won't charge any more. Another advantage is expense: removeable batteries cost more to start up because you have to buy twice as many as you need for spares, plus a charger, but the life cycle cost will be lower because the electronics in a good mod last longer than the battery. Thus you can just buy new batteries instead of replacing a perfectly good mod with a bad battery in it. Extended life away from power can also be done with removables; just take extra spares on the week-long camping trip. Removable batts also open the weird and wonderful world of mech mods, for those who may one day be so inclined. (I'm a mech modder, for example.) Finally, good quality IMR batts use safer chemistry than LiPo packs. LiPos can be and are used safely every day. They also offer better energy density (more electrons in smaller space) but they merit the care and attention something that small and powerful deserves, and usually doesn't get from the kind of owner who wants to plug and vape. The RC helicopter types have smaller, lighter and more powerful batts than vapers. It's significant the chargers for those batteries are more expensive than a good Xtar. Those RC troops take care of their batteries, too, as they are expensive to replace. You don't have to buy too many batteries before figuring out taking good care if them is a good idea. This is easier to do with replaceables.
 

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Suprtrkr has some excellent points.

I have a mix of on-board and replaceable battery mods. I like my iSticks for out and about. I use my iPV Minis at home (to give the iSticks a "rest") There's a bit more consideration with the removable batteries - making sure you pick appropriate ones, having a good charger, etc. It's all about your preference.
 

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    I'll echo what the others have said. Mods with replaceable batteries do have positives:
    • rechargable batteries have a limited number of deplete/charge cycles, being able to replace the battery once it is worn out allows you to continue using your device
    • often carrying a (few) extra batteries is easier (and less expensive) than carrying a few extra fixed battery mods
    • as battery technology gets better (and less expensive) you might be able to 'upgrade' the battery capacity of your mod by simply replacing the battery
    the negatives are:
    • up front cost is generally more as you'll need a charger and batteries
    • fixed battery mods can be made smaller and lighter
    • not all replaceable battery mods have a USB charge option
    • few (if any) have a "pass through" charge/use option
    Of my current "stable" of mods, 5 out of 6 have replaceable batteries.
     
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