best cartos for volt?? boge, kanger, smok tech, g4, etc...

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so like many others i started off witha volt and loved it! im seeing many different cartos for 808's and i was wondering what ecf believes to be best. what ohm is best? one of which i am looking at are the clear g4 cartos i saw here Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - G4 Cartomizers i have not seen any discussion about these so far...
also would 100% VG be bad for cartos?

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I use 2.6 - 2.8 ohm metal CE2's which are the same as the plastic clearomizers or fluxomizers. CE2's are different from other cartos in that they don't have any filer to hold the juice. They also have a horizontal coil. In my humble opinion they taste as good as dripping but there is a learning experience involved. If you aren't willing to spend the time to read and learn how to use them you will be disappointed.

There is no such thing as best it is a matter of personal preference or taste. You will have to experiment and find out for yourself. You should be aware that the lower the cartos ohms the more power it will want. A small batter such as yours is limited to the higher ohm cartos. I would guess 2.5 is as low as you should go. Maybe someone else will confirm this.
 

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There is no such thing as best it is a matter of personal preference or taste. You will have to experiment and find out for yourself. You should be aware that the lower the cartos ohms the more power it will want. A small batter such as yours is limited to the higher ohm cartos. I would guess 2.5 is as low as you should go. Maybe someone else will confirm this.
This.

You have to understand, not everyone has tried all of the different cartos out there and their opinions are going to lean towards what they've tried and what they think is best based on their experience.

I can attest to this from my own personal experience. I thought smoktech dual coils were great...until I tried a boge. Now I've been using boges exclusively for about a month. Now I've been reading a lot about ikenvape.com's own custom carto creations and a lot of people really like them, so I've ordered a few of the different kinds to try out and see how they compare.

That's the best advice I can give you. Take the opinions you find and try a handful of each until you find what you like best before you order a massive batch of any one thing. I now have a bulk of about 80 boge cartos and I'm afraid I'm really going to like the ikenvape cartos more. Seems like a never ending process to me but whatever keeps you off the analogs...
 

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I use the Kanger SR horizontal coil cartos on my KR808d-1 batts ... they typically measure out at 2.6-2.7Ohm on my meter, I have a couple packs of Boges that I got just to try, they measure out at around 3 Ohm. I definitely like the kangers better at battery voltage ... more vapor and warmer. The Boges seem to do better on my 5v passthru, which actually measures out at about 4.6v. This is of course my opinion ... your mileage my vary.
 

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Slim, that makes sense. The 3 ohm boges are intended for higher voltage. I'd recommend comparing a 2 ohm boge on your 808 battery. I'd bet they'd be much better.

How many milliamps is that 808 battery and what is the C rating. With a 2.0ohm carto you may be getting into dangerous ground.
 

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i run 2.0 boges on my bloog and V2 batts. works fine. it does drain your batt quickly though. and i bet it taxes the life expectancy of the batt as well. but they work. you dont really get the full range of what a 2.0 can do, but you can certainly notice a higher volume of vapor. especially when i use my unregulated batt fresh off the charger...blasting that 2.0ohm with 4.2v is niiice.
 

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I wouldn't think it would be an issue at 2 ohms with a single coil but I've honestly never tried it. Better to be safe than sorry.

That depends on wether or not the discharge rate for that battery is high enough to handle the power drain. Just becuase someone used it that way doesn't mean it won't catch on fire. In you pocket, your hand or while charging.

You may want to read this:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/268761-local-nw-floridian-severe-injuries-exploding-ecig-battery-8.html

A battery this size is more likely to just burn.
 

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I've been following that story since the first thread and the 50 other threads that followed it. The user was using a mod with stacked LiFeP04 batteries. I haven't seen anything that described what specific type of coil he was using on it. I really don't see any resemblance between that story and the op's question.

Here is a thread that has different impedance ratings of 808 cartomizers:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/kr808d-1/150600-kr808-d1-cartomizer-resistances.html

They range from 2.0-3.2 ohms.
 

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I've been following that story since the first thread and the 50 other threads that followed it. The user was using a mod with stacked LiFeP04 batteries. I haven't seen anything that described what specific type of coil he was using on it. I really don't see any resemblance between that story and the op's question.

Here is a thread that has different impedance ratings of 808 cartomizers:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/kr808d-1/150600-kr808-d1-cartomizer-resistances.html

They range from 2.0-3.2 ohms.

I was using a VL4 808 at the time and their cartos ohms were all over the place. I don't see how Kanger's non existant quality control justifies the use of 2.0 ohm cartos on anything less than about than 1,000 mah battery. It could be since there are high drain batteries.

As far as the story goes we don't know yet what he was using. Nor do I expect a small battery to explode like that. Fires are far more likely. Still if you are using a cartomizer that strains the battery you are greatly increasing you chance of catastrophic failure.
 

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Traver sir use 1.5 ohm dual coils on the new v4l king diamond and stealth series without issue. They do use high drain cells in them (yes there are high drain cells in the 10440 size). The ones that gen 2 batts use are based upon lifepo4 10440's. From what I've found they're rated for 10c, which means on a shorty you can pull 2.2a without issue. Why they regulate them to the 3.6v range....
 

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Traver sir use 1.5 ohm dual coils on the new v4l king diamond and stealth series without issue. They do use high drain cells in them (yes there are high drain cells in the 10440 size). The ones that gen 2 batts use are based upon lifepo4 10440's. From what I've found they're rated for 10c, which means on a shorty you can pull 2.2a without issue. Why they regulate them to the 3.6v range....

Thanks, I knew it can be done but I expected them to go for a longer battery life instead of a high C rating. Where does this information come from?
 

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After my disapointing experience with Boge and my horrible experience with Kanger, I'm now going with Low resistance cartos similar to the ones sold by Bloog (2.4 - 2.8). I use them with Volt "sealed" shorty batteries and have had no issues thusfar.

Why wouldn't you simply use the volt with a volt carto or a bloog with a bloog carto?
 
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