Best clone mechs and rdas
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Honestly, that's such a broad question, that you won't get the answer you seek.
I have over 45 mods from almost every cloner in china.
Some are great some are not. Depends on the mod AND the manufacturer/cloner.
hcigar, infinite, and EHPro have some great mods. They all also have some mods that are junk.
Same with RBAs and RDAs.
If you would be more specific with your question, you'll get a better answer.
I have over 45 mods from almost every cloner in china.
Some are great some are not. Depends on the mod AND the manufacturer/cloner.
hcigar, infinite, and EHPro have some great mods. They all also have some mods that are junk.
Same with RBAs and RDAs.
If you would be more specific with your question, you'll get a better answer.
Not preaching but what about asking about the great authentic mods that are available here on the classifieds for very good prices? There are Poldiacs going for around $100, Chi yous for same ball park, BCV going for $125 Russians selling for $60 Etc Etc just an idea. Also the Smok Magneto is authentic and is very good magnetic switch readily available for like $50 MVP2 available for $50 IGO atties abound for under $30.Aehtertech has 2 new mods in the $100 price range. Frankly there is no reason to buy a counterfeit mod anymore there are so many authentic choices you can get in for a really low price and support the creators and not the thieves. You know you will get something that is proven good quality and not be spinning the chinese wheel of quality
I wouldn't personally buy used unless I wanted collectibility, and then I'd be very very picky.
Sorry, flippers are why brass tubes are listed at $300.
Filipino legit mod $200
Chinese clone $20
Performance will be equal.
Same CNC machine, same skill, same cost to produce.
There is not 10x difference.
For collectibility, buy legit.
If you ou want performance for your dollar, head to cloneville.
Sorry, flippers are why brass tubes are listed at $300.
Filipino legit mod $200
Chinese clone $20
Performance will be equal.
Same CNC machine, same skill, same cost to produce.
There is not 10x difference.
For collectibility, buy legit.
If you ou want performance for your dollar, head to cloneville.
Fiippers where? Have you checked the classifieds lately? With all due respect you are clearly not paying attention to the actual market. Flippers are shunned on almost every classified forum everywhere. Fillipino Legit mod used is almost always available used for $100 and the $20 counterfeit is no where near as good and performs no where near as well in most cases ( there are exceptions) and aside from Fastech which has its down sides nothing worth anything is selling for $20.00.
I am aware I will not change your view point but for new vapers I hope some pay attention to the fact that you get what you pay for and can get authentic good quality mods for reasonable prices from good people safely on the classifieds on ECF> you will also not be supporting thieves
Infinite magma and EH pro Atomic are the finest atomizers I have period, and they happen to be clones. Between the two (bottom air vs. side air) I'm sure one of them will make you happy for a long time, if not both.
Hcigar stingray X is dynamite.
I have two SS nemesis clones from fast tech, purchased when it first came out, which after some time (the switch) are also incredible and reliable
Also have the private V2 from fast tech, also purchased when it first came out, which is an unbelievable unit with a perfect switch. I had to file the delrin in the top cap a bit to make the pin 'truly' floating.
EH pro caravela is good but you're going to have issues getting a gapless fit, so I wouldn't bother (the tubes need to be longer and the top pin needs to be a two stage pin like the Chi You)
Fast tech Tree of Life clone (23 dollar) is gorgeous and has the worst switch and worst voltage drop I have ever seen.
I've heard great things about the Penny clone and Advken Chi you clone
Hcigar stingray X is dynamite.
I have two SS nemesis clones from fast tech, purchased when it first came out, which after some time (the switch) are also incredible and reliable
Also have the private V2 from fast tech, also purchased when it first came out, which is an unbelievable unit with a perfect switch. I had to file the delrin in the top cap a bit to make the pin 'truly' floating.
EH pro caravela is good but you're going to have issues getting a gapless fit, so I wouldn't bother (the tubes need to be longer and the top pin needs to be a two stage pin like the Chi You)
Fast tech Tree of Life clone (23 dollar) is gorgeous and has the worst switch and worst voltage drop I have ever seen.
I've heard great things about the Penny clone and Advken Chi you clone
Clones are clones... Usually made with cheaper materials and thus aren't as good as authentics. That said I don't have any non Chinese authentics yet. I am eyeballing the flagship mod and the reo.
I enjoy my clones as I can try more things. If there were no clones I'd purchase way less often and probably still be using egos...
I enjoy my clones as I can try more things. If there were no clones I'd purchase way less often and probably still be using egos...
Lets call a spade a spade counterfeits are counterfeits. It is a fair debate that many can try things they could not otherwise try without counterfeits but they are stolen concepts.
Sorry let me rephrase stolen exact designs and logos reproduced with lower quality materials and stolen logos.
As someone who buys clones because of the inability to justify dropping $300 on a metal tube, but admires authenticity, this is great advice.
It's at the point where mech mods aren't innovative. 90% of newly released mods are simply being pumped out of warehouses with a different logo or emblem on engraving on the side.
I feel as if people who buy authentic are simply upset that they spent 10x more and now their mod is being replicated. Morality is certainly questioned, but people started vaping to stop smoking cigarettes and release the grip it had on their wallets. If authentic wasn't so ridiculously expensive, I would only buy authentic. I bet 99% of clone users would say the same. Elitism does nothing for no one.
And I want to stress this profoundly there is less and less of a need for counterfeits a more and more authentics become available on the after market. KFL clones are about $10 less than the classified price of authentic on the classified. It is an uphill battle ( my opinion) but one that is worth arguing respectfully.
I agree it is about stopping smoking and I would agree there was a time when the real things were so hard to get it was ridiculous. That is not the case anymore and the reality is to buy and sell counterfeits is morally reprehensible. There are hundreds of Atties and mods that are authentic available both new and used on sites and classifieds everywhere at just over what the counterfeits go for. If you are buying or selling these you are participating in theft plain and simple. if you are ok with that then the reality of that does not matter to you and I get that but do not sugar coat your choices by justifying because the prices are to high on real things becasue they are not. Just accept you are ok to steal and own it
http://hollythelibrarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/piracy-vs-theft.jpg
I see your point of view, along with everyone else who defends authenticity so completely. I just don't abide by it because it is absurd to me that makers want to charge us an arm and a leg for something that can be made for a large fraction less.
If I could make you feel any better about my own personal stance, I have an authentic DNA30 from Protovapor. It cost $210, and I purchased it right before the HANAZ conundrum, so I feel the "burn". I buy mechanical mod clones to increase the likelihood of purchasing the authentic version and ultimately paying my due to the original creator. It is just a longer process of putting together that much money when bills (and even juice) come beforehand. Clones are an unfortunate shortcut in the vapeosphere.
Price has little to do with the cost of manufacturing and more to do with how much people are willing to pay.
I get that clones are largely reverse engineered products. I don't feel like it is taking money from the original designers pocket though. Like I said previously in a world without clones all my stuff would still be from China... Though many authentics are coming down in price.
I prefer no logo clones to 1-1.
I get that clones are largely reverse engineered products. I don't feel like it is taking money from the original designers pocket though. Like I said previously in a world without clones all my stuff would still be from China... Though many authentics are coming down in price.
I prefer no logo clones to 1-1.
Infinite Magma, Tobeco Plume Veil, EHpro Kayfun Lite Plus, HCigar Stingrays are some good ones.
Great. This thread isn't about your opinion on clones though. It asks which clones are worth buying, not whether to buy authentic or clones. You have a good clone to recommend?
LOL, we could say the same thing about people charging $250 for what's basically a steel battery tube. Theft, morally reprehensible, etc.
Lets Not -
coun·ter·feit
ˈkountərˌfit/
adjective 1. made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud.
noun 1. a fraudulent imitation of something else; a forgery.
verb 1. imitate fraudulently.
I have not run into a Single China Manufacturer of Mods, including Replicas, that Claims they are selling an original. No one has ever attempted to defraud me on a purchase.
Lower Quality materials - An assumption. You are attempting to classify ALL originals as made from SUPERIOR materials and this is just NOT the case. Yes there are some Ultra high end pieces made with specialty materials. There are considerably more made of Very Standard Materials.
Now, there are some Shady sellers - both business and individuals - that are thieves.
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King knurled clone from focal.
Awesome mod. Copper contacts. Solid brass. Recessed button. Lock ring.
Simply a wonderful device.
$24
Yes that's a legit Youde IGO w6 with 5 posts/ quad coils.
Awesome mod. Copper contacts. Solid brass. Recessed button. Lock ring.
Simply a wonderful device.
$24
Yes that's a legit Youde IGO w6 with 5 posts/ quad coils.
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