Best coils for regulated with fast ramp?

[The60WattGUY]

For flavour and vapour go for dual and tricore fused claptons over round wire.

Regarding the mech:
Get your coils sorted first in your rda on a regulated mod. Find out what you like using and at what wattage you like using it at. Spend enough time with this stage so you know what build you'd want to use in the future, in a mech.

If you're new to building coils, take your time. Most of the new regulated mods these day have a chip that fires near instantaneously. Slow firing mods were one of the reasons people prefered using a mech mod. Since that difference now is so slight, take your time.

I'd definitely recommend starting a new thread when you want to start putting a build on a mech mod.

I appreciate all the help you guys are giving me
Anyway i prob will still order the mech tomorrow but i might practise more on my regulated before i eve use my mech,if i wait buying it im scared itll be sold out mechs are hard to find i might even grab 2 of them a brass and copper one lol insides are all copper for the trishul v2 , can you also maybe take a look here it has a list of all kinds of different spools not sure what i wanna go with =/ i do wanna aim for a .2 build but not higher for example .25 would be to high imo not enough wattage im used too heh so .2 will be goods lower than that might be bit dangerous for me still oh the battery im using is the newer samsung 40t mooch rated it as a cdr 35amp battery the older one being 30a but heres the list of spools Vandy Vape Clapton Wire

 

[Mordacai]

I'd say sticking with the pre-made coil kit is your best option first @The60WattGUY, as it helps save you money and has options you can try out.

As I'm thinking 28AWG 2 and 3 core wires might be what you're looking for, but you may prefer 26AWG.

As if things are too cool, there's not enough vapor and you want more flavour you go down in AWG to larger wires and or increase the number of coil wires.

It's one reason a lot of different wire at one side in a box or draw that we don't talk about.

And I think always starting a new build on a regulated mod is a great ideas, as resistance can and does change when builds are fired.

 

[The60WattGUY]

I'd say sticking with the pre-made coil kit is your best option first @The60WattGUY, as it helps save you money and has options you can try out.

As I'm thinking 28AWG 2 and 3 core wires might be what you're looking for, but you may prefer 26AWG.

As if things are too cool, there's not enough vapor and you want more flavour you go down in AWG to larger wires and or increase the number of coil wires.

It's one reason a lot of different wire at one side in a box or draw that we don't talk about.

And I think always starting a new build on a regulated mod is a great ideas, as resistance can and does change when builds are fired.

Yea i guess you are right ha i will order my mech now and the coils also i think im going to build on my regulated first and test the atty there for a bit to
make sure no shorts,
and also use only molicel p28a 35 amp and samsung 40t3 version new 40ts they are 35amp now to acording to mooch and will keep it top shape too. hopefully nothing happens still bit scared but thats because its new to me probably,
oh yea those premade coils wouldnt it be to low for beginner since most will be below .2 for dualcoils but maybe if i do what i said above ill be ok i dont think i wanna go lower then .15 tho for now unless 35amps can handle it ill check ohm law calculator for that so yeah excited to try them out might grab 2 since mechs are rare

Thanks for your help man appreciate it cool community ill let you kno how it goes hehe

 

[Mordacai]

Here's what we know.

Dragon Skin = 0.21 ohms for dual.

Fused Clapton = 0.17 ohms for dual.

Multi-Strand Fused Clapton = 0.16 ohms for dual.

But these are just approximations at best, not real world usage. So they may well be different.

And nothing wrong with being kind of hesitant, mech mods don't have a safety net so to speak. Your responsible for working everything out there, so checking your calculations is a must.

And if you can find one I recommend the SkyRC MC3000 battery charger, the only charger I'm aware of on the market that you can create optimised custom charging profiles so that you don't stress your batteries/cells and preserve their health.

 

[The60WattGUY]

Here's what we know.

Dragon Skin = 0.21 ohms for dual.

Fused Clapton = 0.17 ohms for dual.

Multi-Strand Fused Clapton = 0.16 ohms for dual.

But these are just approximations at best, not real world usage. So they may well be different.

And nothing wrong with being kind of hesitant, mech mods don't have a safety net so to speak. Your responsible for working everything out there, so checking your calculations is a must.

And if you can find one I recommend the SkyRC MC3000 battery charger, the only charger I'm aware of on the market that you can create optimised custom charging profiles so that you don't stress your batteries/cells and preserve their health.

Ohh wait so u can charge a call without using up a full cycle?
Does that even exist wow seems like a must have
Right now i use xtar vc2 or some crap lol does label my voltages and such which is nice but it was a cheapy also got an efest bay charger but i dont trust efest they lie and are dangerous for example they claim they have 40amp 18650 battery lol impossible thats dangerous for vapers imo , dont support them imo haha

I wanted the gyrfalcon or whatever the one jai haze has lol but imma look into the skyrc mc3000 are they pricey?

 

[Mordacai]

SkyRC MC3000 ain't cheap, but honestly they're the only charger you'll ever really need.

I've got self made programmes for Samsung 20S and 30T cells on mine, but like I've said you can create pretty much any charging profile so you can charge cells optimally and extend the use of your cells.

You can create 30 different profiles and various chemistries are supported.

But definitely check out reviews on them and look at the manual for them for much more information.

 

[AngeNZ]

I appreciate all the help you guys are giving me
Anyway i prob will still order the mech tomorrow but i might practise more on my regulated before i eve use my mech,if i wait buying it im scared itll be sold out mechs are hard to find i might even grab 2 of them a brass and copper one lol insides are all copper for the trishul v2 , can you also maybe take a look here it has a list of all kinds of different spools not sure what i wanna go with =/ i do wanna aim for a .2 build but not higher for example .25 would be to high imo not enough wattage im used too heh so .2 will be goods lower than that might be bit dangerous for me still oh the battery im using is the newer samsung 40t mooch rated it as a cdr 35amp battery the older one being 30a but heres the list of spools Vandy Vape Clapton Wire

I haven't checked steam engine. But for your wattage, I'd get the ni80 26*2+35 and maybe ni80 28*2+35 for dual coils. If they end up being too low in resistance, you can always get the kanthal versions.

And I'd spend any extra money on a decent ohms reader or a reliable mod to give you accurate resistance readings. Rather than a bells and whistles battery charger.

 

[Mordacai]

@AngeNZ, OP already has a regulated mod that they're using currently that can be re-purposed.

 

[The60WattGUY]

I haven't checked steam engine. But for your wattage, I'd get the ni80 26*2+35 and maybe ni80 28*2+35 for dual coils. If they end up being too low in resistance, you can always get the kanthal versions.

And I'd spend any extra money on a decent ohms reader or a reliable mod to give you accurate resistance readings. Rather than a bells and whistles battery charger.

I do have regulated mods i got about 7 most being lost vape with quest board should he ok just to see ohms tried looking for ohm reader cant even find one all sold out ,well unless i order out of the country

 

[The60WattGUY]

@AngeNZ, OP already has a regulated mod that they're using currently that can be re-purposed.

Yea i got about 7 heh... im not that new to vaping, just mechs and the diff typ of exotic coils
But yea i got them ordered i cant wait to try a mech heh do they hit different than regulated? Oh trishul v2 stated not to build below .2 ohms if i keep to all the safety rules i can still build below it right i dont see why not?

 

[Territoo]

Yea i got about 7 heh... im not that new to vaping, just mechs and the diff typ of exotic coils
But yea i got them ordered i cant wait to try a mech heh do they hit different than regulated? Oh trishul v2 stated not to build below .2 ohms if i keep to all the safety rules i can still build below it right i dont see why not?

0.2 ohms is pushing the limit of safety. I've built down to 0.15, but on a regulated mod. In order to give yourself a cushion of safety, I think that anything below 0.2 ohms isn't a good idea. Also, you should try and find an ohm reader when you can, although there isn't urgency if you have a functioning regulated mod. An ohm reader is probably more accurate and easier to use. There is also the vapocalyse to consider, too. That is when all your regulated mods are no longer functional and new equipment can no longer be purchased. Having an ohm reader will be important. I have mech mods in my stash (including a Hammer of God clone) for the vapocalypse. Mechs are not as likely to break down, whereas a regulated mod will eventually die.

 

[The60WattGUY]

0.2 ohms is pushing the limit of safety. I've built down to 0.15, but on a regulated mod. In order to give yourself a cushion of safety, I think that anything below 0.2 ohms isn't a good idea. Also, you should try and find an ohm reader when you can, although there isn't urgency if you have a functioning regulated mod. An ohm reader is probably more accurate and easier to use. There is also the vapocalyse to consider, too. That is when all your regulated mods are no longer functional and new equipment can no longer be purchased. Having an ohm reader will be important. I have mech mods in my stash (including a Hammer of God clone) for the vapocalypse. Mechs are not as likely to break down, whereas a regulated mod will eventually die.

Yes i will get a ohm reader then i mean i could use 1 mod just as a ohm reader and not even vape on it just so it last longer but like u said they can still fail actually imma look for one now, my mechs should arive later today its 6am amsterdam i got up early cuz im actually excited lol ,vaping became huge hobby of mine i hope vapecolypse never happens vaping not only saved me from cigs but also weed i quit all combustion smoking that includes flower...
Edit: oh i did order coils that i will use in dual but most are .15-.2 to .25 hopefully the .15 wont be to dangerous il still check ohms law for the amps im pulling if its high i wont do it for now and stick with .2 and above

 

[Mordacai]

One thing I do know well @The60WattGUY is that mechs have a completely different experience to a regulated mod with buck and boost, as under use the voltage drops.

So the output changes as you use them.

 

[AngeNZ]

Yes i will get a ohm reader then i mean i could use 1 mod just as a ohm reader and not even vape on it just so it last longer but like u said they can still fail actually imma look for one now, my mechs should arive later today its 6am amsterdam i got up early cuz im actually excited lol ,vaping became huge hobby of mine i hope vapecolypse never happens vaping not only saved me from cigs but also weed i quit all combustion smoking that includes flower...
Edit: oh i did order coils that i will use in dual but most are .15-.2 to .25 hopefully the .15 wont be to dangerous il still check ohms law for the amps im pulling if its high i wont do it for now and stick with .2 and above

Until you get an ohms reader just check your final resistance on two different mods, preferably from different brands. The Lost vape quest 2 chip is fantastic so use that as one.

The reason why: you've got no idea at what resistance the mech mod will actually read. If you have 2 numbers it gives you a spread. Plus, at the lower end of coil resistance there's a big difference between for example a 0.15Ω pulling 28amps and a 0.12Ω pulling 35amps. For peace of mind, you want it to be as accurate as possible.