Best e-go starter kit?

[wv2win]

LOL seems like there's some hard selling used car salesmen on this forum.

Anyway, another for your consideration: Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Smok Tech EGO

It's got everything you need except the juice. It's even got the 3.7v batteries that the yokels like to hoot & holler about.

You can get the 650mah kit for $37.99 Or the longer battery life 900mah kit for $2 more.

They're available with single or dual coil cartomizerss. I'd recommend the dual coil.

Hit the 20% off button in the upper left to make them even cheaper.

Grab a bottle of juice or two and you're good to go.

Or, since there is no obvious advantage to the eGo, you can just get the Kgo or E-Power and have a 3.7 volt battery with the 1000+ mAh battery included in the price of the starter kit.

And one other small bit of information: when you go to replace those eGo batteries it will cost $15 - $20 each. When you need to replace an E-Power battery, it will cost $4 - $5 each. You can get an extra bottle of eliquid with the savings.

 

[BethInMichigan]

I just got the ego-t type b off cignots.com and got me off the cigs. I tried smoking a cig after this and it tasted nasty to me. This has a standard 3.3 voltage which works for me. Holds 2 mills which last me all day. Easy and maintainance free. See YouTube "cleaning a ego-c" by cignotinc. Been vaping mine 3 days and filling cart with needle syringe instead of removing cap. It looks,nice and works great, get the 1000mah battery. I am so happy with this.

 

[Smokalo]

Well, lets see: with the autos you have a cut-off of the battery if you take too long of a draw, they are not sealed like manuals so if any liquid leaks into it, it's dead and you have less control of the warmth of the vapor.

With manuals, you can pre-heat the eliquid before you inhale, there is no cut-off, the battery is sealed so you have no fear of killing it with an eliquid leak.

Why do you think about 95% of ECF vapers use manual batteries.

Thanks for the info. I've been using an Ego 650mAh for the past few months although my first vaporizer was the Silver Bullet, which worked flawlessly. The cut-off is something that can get a little annoying on the Ego because I have to plug it back into the charger to reset if the sensor keeps the battery disabled after I unplug it from the charger.

 

[wv2win]

healthcabin.net has the best prices but slow shipping since its direct from china. They have the new EGO Twist battery where you can adjust voltage. Waiting for mine

EMS shipping takes on average 4 - 5 days to reach your mail box from China.

 

[BethInMichigan]

Whoops it is the ego-c type b not the t one. Get the regular one as the battery last longer.

 

[sailorman]

LOL seems like there's some hard selling used car salesmen on this forum.

Anyway, another for your consideration: Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Smok Tech EGO

It's got everything you need except the juice. It's even got the 3.7v batteries that the yokels like to hoot & holler about.

You can get the 650mah kit for $37.99 Or the longer battery life 900mah kit for $2 more.

They're available with single or dual coil cartomizerss. I'd recommend the dual coil.

Hit the 20% off button in the upper left to make them even cheaper.

Grab a bottle of juice or two and you're good to go.

BZZZZZZTTTT!!! Sorry, wrong answer.

With dual coil cartos, you really have two coils, each having 2X the resistance of the whole carto.
For example, a 1.5 DC has two 3ohm coils inside. What does that mean?
With a 3.7V battery, instead of cooking your juice with a toasty 9.12 Watts, you have 2 coils, each trying to cook your juice at a miserably cold 4.6 watts.
Vaping with 4.6 watts sucks. It's the same as using a 3ohm carto on a 3.7V device.
Vaping with 4.6 watts on two coils just sucks twice as much. You get twice as much lame, cold vapor.
As a point of reference, most people like their juice cooked in the range of 6 to 10 watts.
A single coil 1.5 or 1.7ohm carto is much to be preferred to a dual coil LR carto.
Now, if they ever came up with a 0.85ohm DC carto, that would be great for a 3.7V battery, although it would be pulling some serious current so you'd need a high drain battery.

 

[wv2win]

BZZZZZZTTTT!!! Sorry, wrong answer.

With dual coil cartos, you really have two coils, each having 2X the resistance of the whole carto.
For example, a 1.5 DC has two 3ohm coils inside. What does that mean?
With a 3.7V battery, instead of cooking your juice with a toasty 9.12 Watts, you have 2 coils, each trying to cook your juice at a miserably cold 4.6 watts.
Vaping with 4.6 watts sucks. It's the same as using a 3ohm carto on a 3.7V device.
Vaping with 4.6 watts on two coils just sucks twice as much. You get twice as much lame, cold vapor.
As a point of reference, most people like their juice cooked in the range of 6 to 10 watts.
A single coil 1.5 or 1.7ohm carto is much to be preferred to a dual coil LR carto.
Now, if they ever came up with a 0.85ohm DC carto, that would be great for a 3.7V battery, although it would be pulling some serious current so you'd need a high drain battery.

Good review, sailorman. I also view the dual coils as unsuited for 3.7 volt vaping unless you are one of those vapers who actually likes cold, cold vapor. 4.5 volts to 5.0 volts really brings the dual coils to life and suits them well.

 

[sailorman]

Well, lets see: with the autos you have a cut-off of the battery if you take too long of a draw, they are not sealed like manuals so if any liquid leaks into it, it's dead and you have less control of the warmth of the vapor.

With manuals, you can pre-heat the eliquid before you inhale, there is no cut-off, the battery is sealed so you have no fear of killing it with an eliquid leak.

Why do you think about 95% of ECF vapers use manual batteries.

Also, some automatics can be triggered by loud noises, including wind noise when you're driving.

If automatic batteries were worth a darn, you'd see them on some of the high end, or even middle grade APVs. They'd be an option on the Provari or the GG or the Darwin. They aren't.

 

[sailorman]

Ego-T's are great for starters but unless you're getting some really high-end models the price shouldn't be above $50 for a kit imo.

Other than being underpowered, there is really nothing wrong with the ego batteries. If you get one of the 3.7V models, they're just like the kGo.

However, the trouble starts when they hang gimmicks on the end and charge you extra for the privilege of buying their special atomizers and "tanks", which are just a glorified version of the obsolete atomizer /cartridge systems. Soooo 2010.

Scroll through this forum, or the device forums. Every day, the same posts. "My Ego-T tastes like burnt plastic". "I can't tast the flavors in my Ego-T". "My Ego T is leaking". It seems like the only people who are happy with them are the people who were vaping on Blu's yesterday. Then you get the posts like "I tried a Vision Carto on my Ego T and it's GREAT!". I suspect that the vast majority of people with eGo Ts or Cs, especially Ts, eventually abandon the "system" and are much happier with a decent cartomizer or clearomizer. What a waste. They could have skipped all that "system" nonsense right from the start and saved themselves money and frustration trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

 

[SkyDancer]

Ok so now I've gotten the kit info I need but more questions come to mind now.
1. Can I get something that holds more juice? Is that the cartomizer? I don't want huge but more than 20 drops would be good.
2. How can I tell the threading on the device when none is listed?
3. Very few, ok none, of the sites I've been looking at seem to tell you what add-ons can go on the one you are buying (cartomizers).
4. Is there a cover for the mouth piece?
5. Is a carto just an abbreviation for cartomizer?
6. Atomizer and cartomizer are different, right? lol

I'm sure it would help if I had actually handled one but I'd have to make a 2 hour trip to Tulsa to see one...
(feeling very dumb here)

SkyDancer

 

[Smokalo]

Other than being underpowered, there is really nothing wrong with the ego batteries. If you get one of the 3.7V models, they're just like the kGo.

However, the trouble starts when they hang gimmicks on the end and charge you extra for the privilege of buying their special atomizers and "tanks", which are just a glorified version of the obsolete atomizer /cartridge systems. Soooo 2010.

Scroll through this forum, or the device forums. Every day, the same posts. "My Ego-T tastes like burnt plastic". "I can't tast the flavors in my Ego-T". "My Ego T is leaking". It seems like the only people who are happy with them are the people who were vaping on Blu's yesterday. Then you get the posts like "I tried a Vision Carto on my Ego T and it's GREAT!". I suspect that the vast majority of people with eGo Ts or Cs, especially Ts, eventually abandon the "system" and are much happier with a decent cartomizer or clearomizer. What a waste. They could have skipped all that "system" nonsense right from the start and saved themselves money and frustration trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Hmmm, models such as the Silver Bullet, Provari, and some of the more expensive manual battery PVs are head and shoulders above an average Ego, however, I have been using the 650mAh Ego without a problem, except the occasional glitch after a full charge and sometimes a cut-off if I hold the button down for 7 to 8 or more seconds, although I can get around that by letting go of the button for a split second during the drag. I actually bought a large order of the 650mAh Ego's to sell to friends and relatives and maybe online in the future but I guess it would be better to produce my own since the Ego's obviously have issues with long term durability. I think that although the Ego is not really a "quality" product, people will rather pay $40 for a kit that works right off the bat than $200 or so for a full kit that is from a top-quality manufacturer.

Edit: I don't mean to justify lower-quality products by saying they're cheaper, it's just that most people are intimidated at first if they have to pay upwards of a $150 for a good kit from my experience.

 

[sailorman]

Hmmm, models such as the Silver Bullet, Provari, and some of the more expensive manual battery PVs are head and shoulders above an average Ego, however, I have been using the 650mAh Ego without a problem, except the occasional glitch after a full charge and sometimes a cut-off if I hold the button down for 7 to 8 or more seconds, although I can get around that by letting go of the button for a split second during the drag. I actually bought a large order of the 650mAh Ego's to sell to friends and relatives and maybe online in the future but I guess it would be better to produce my own since the Ego's obviously have issues with long term durability. I think that although the Ego is not really a "quality" product, people will rather pay $40 for a kit that works right off the bat than $200 or so for a full kit that is from a top-quality manufacturer.

Edit: I don't mean to justify lower-quality products by saying they're cheaper, it's just that most people are intimidated at first if they have to pay upwards of a $150 for a good kit from my experience.

As I said, the plain eGo is o.k., except for the limited power. I hope you didn't buy a bunch of eGo Ts, especially 650mah ones. That's where the problem lies, and they still sell for more than $40. A 1100mah kGo kit sells for about $45, with cartos, just about anywhere and it works right out of the box. If you look through this form, there are post after post from noobs who are delighted with their kGos. For every 4 good posts about a kGo, there is one with complaints about the eGo T. The eGo C is marginally better, but it's merely a refinement of the T model. They're both glorified atty/cartridge systems for people who don't remember how crappy atty/cartridge systems really are.

 

[Smokalo]

As I said, the plain eGo is o.k., except for the limited power. I hope you didn't buy a bunch of eGo Ts, especially 650mah ones. That's where the problem lies, and they still sell for more than $40. A 1100mah kGo kit sells for about $45, with cartos, just about anywhere and it works right out of the box. If you look through this form, there are post after post from noobs who are delighted with their kGos. For every 4 good posts about a kGo, there is one with complaints about the eGo T. The eGo C is marginally better, but it's merely a refinement of the T model. They're both glorified atty/cartridge systems for people who don't remember how crappy atty/cartridge systems really are.

E Cigarette SMOKtech Mega EGO 900mah battery e cig

These are the models I got, although they sent me 650mAh versions even though I specified the 900mAh models; smoktech is a very unreliable manufacturer. Nonetheless, I haven't had many problems so far although next time I will opt for higher quality models, hopefully American-made if I can get something going. I'm crossing my fingers that all of the kits I got are decent quality because it sucks having a reputation of selling crap although I haven't come across any defective kits up to this point and I sold about 50.

 

[sailorman]

Ok so now I've gotten the kit info I need but more questions come to mind now.

I'm not sure what kit you're referring to. I'm assuming the kGo or at least the eGo in these answers.

1. Can I get something that holds more juice? Is that the cartomizer? I don't want huge but more than 20 drops would be good.

Yes. There are larger "mega" cartomizers as well as Clearomizers. The eGo Vision Clearomizer aka "Stardust" is very good and holds about 1.6ml of juice. They are also known as CE4s. You want the CE4+ version, available from gotvapes.com and discountvapers.com

2. How can I tell the threading on the device when none is listed?

Egos and kGos have 510 threading. Anything that uses a 510 thread, or anything specifically designed for an eGo will fit on either an ego or a kgo.

3. Very few, ok none, of the sites I've been looking at seem to tell you what add-ons can go on the one you are buying (cartomizers).

Any add on that is listed as having a 510 thread will fit.

4. Is there a cover for the mouth piece?

Not sure what you mean by that. There are mouthpieces that fit into cartomizers (drip tips). Some cartomizers and clearomizers come with their own mouthpieces.

5. Is a carto just an abbreviation for cartomizer?

Yes.

6. Atomizer and cartomizer are different, right? lol

Yes. An atomizer contains only the heating element, or coil. A cartomizer comes from the words CARTridge and atOMIZER. A cartomizer contains both the heating element and an absorbent material that holds the juice.

I'm sure it would help if I had actually handled one but I'd have to make a 2 hour trip to Tulsa to see one...
(feeling very dumb here)

SkyDancer

Nah, Everyone feels like that at first. Once you get things in your hands, it'll all fall together.

 

[sailorman]

E Cigarette SMOKtech Mega EGO 900mah battery e cig

These are the models I got, although they sent me 650mAh versions even though I specified the 900mAh models; smoktech is a very unreliable manufacturer. Nonetheless, I haven't had many problems so far although next time I will opt for higher quality models, hopefully American-made if I can get something going. I'm crossing my fingers that all of the kits I got are decent quality because it sucks having a reputation of selling crap although I haven't come across any defective kits up to this point and I sold about 50.

Yeah, these are completely different than Joye egos. They're the same form factor but they don't come shackled to the T or C "systems". I think they're 3.7V as well, are they not?

 

[Snag]

Good Q&As...Very helpful...now e-power vs kgo?

 

[SkyDancer]

Sailorman, you are the BEST! Thanks for answering all my questions!

 

[Smokalo]

Yeah, these are completely different than Joye egos. They're the same form factor but they don't come shackled to the T or C "systems". I think they're 3.7V as well, are they not?

Yes, they are the 3.7 volt versions, which are still good when you use them with a LR atty, but they are straightforward, unlike some of the other Chinese-made "e-cigarettes" I have encountered. The only downsides I see are the automatic battery, long-term durability, as well as the occasional glitches.

 

[hitman4274]

I love my egos, I have two, one 650mah and one 1000mah... Works great with my 6ml dct, and low res. Cartos are just bomb... Kgo.. ego... They are pretty close in comparison from what I can tell...

 

[sailorman]

Yes, they are the 3.7 volt versions, which are still good when you use them with a LR atty, but they are straightforward, unlike some of the other Chinese-made "e-cigarettes" I have encountered. The only downsides I see are the automatic battery, long-term durability, as well as the occasional glitches.

What?? They have automatic batteries? No button?
Smoketech will refund defects over a 2% rate, so you can offer a warranty of some kind. You can't expect a 0% defect rate with these mass produced PVs. Gonna have to suck it up or sell enough to apply for a refund.