Best mod for rba?

[Scattdadi vprs]

I'm looking for a solid mod for my rba and I don't want anything with an electric button or is made out of plastic? Does anyone know if I should be looking for something that is vv or has an ohm display built in? I know eventunially I will get a full mech hybrid , but for the time being does anyone have any ideas?

 

[mapo]

What rba do you have. some will need to know to give you the best answer.

 

[Scattdadi vprs]

A DID clone

 

[Maurits Teuthof]

I'm looking for a solid mod for my rba and I don't want anything with an electric button or is made out of plastic? Does anyone know if I should be looking for something that is vv or has an ohm display built in? I know eventunially I will get a full mech hybrid , but for the time being does anyone have any ideas?

Hi there. I would recomend the L Rider Lambo. It is a solid variable voltage mod with all the possibilities of an expensive vv mod. It's made of copper which is chrome plated. I have had mine now for several months and am very satisfied.

 

[Scattdadi vprs]

I have virtually the same mod , the Apollo ss mini vv and like like it but it's really fighting with my rba the buttons doesn't Hold a fire and the mod gets very hott, but I do like it for almost everything else

 

[justinred]

A Provari is what you need, but am quite sure you already know that.

 

[ShogaNinja]

I recommend against using acronyms in the new members forum, first of all.

If you want a good mod, for a good price, for your RBA (rebuildable atomizer) you should maybe look into a VV Gripper. Sure, the cop out answer is Provari but, for that price of one of those, you may as well build your own tube mod. Then, if something goes wrong, you won't be at the mercy of Provape to fix it; you'll know exactly what to do.

My vote is for the Smoktech VV Gripper. Yeah, it's made out of injected plastic with a rubberized finish, but I ask you this: do you think you can drop a steel Provari on the concrete (and unless you are a kungfu master you WILL probably drop it at some point) and it won't scratch? Rubber bounces. You can get a VV Gripper, for free shipping, from Vaporbeast for the $55 for the base box mod. Mod for mod that's 1/3 of the price. You start getting into extras on the Provari (18650 end caps - which SHOULD be standard, 2x 18650 batteries, charger, warranty, different colors, blue LED Display) and the ratio gets better. Just sayin'... There are 1000 ways to vape and Provape does NOT have the patent on it.

Another alternative is the Zmax which is a Variable Wattage device. They go for $150 for 2 batteries and a charger on Altsmoke. That's $100+ savings AND you have a variable wattage device.

Don't understand the difference between Variable Voltage and Variable Wattage? When you dial up a voltage it gives you a wattage on your atomizer. This determines the heat of the vape/vapor production. You find a level you like (usually between 4-8 watts) and you punch that in. The result is a VW device will give you the same vape regardless of the resistance of your atomizer, while VV requires you to do the math. VW is an easy button. Before the Vmax you could get VW in an Evolv Kick ($40) plus the cost of a standard mod (such as the Silver Bullet = $110 with kick sleeve) = $150 = same price as a fully loaded Zmax, OR you could MAYBE get a Darwin (not a lot of supply to meet demand) for $250 before you even get into battieries and charger. Not to mention that the Evolv Kick has an amp limit that also limits what you can vape.

There's also a new tube mod on the market known as the "Stallion" by Texas Select Vapor that is also VW. It's in the $150 range, comes with a bigger battery than any you've ever likely seen, and it very well built. Here's a review of it:



In conclusion, pick what is best for you. Think for yourself - for, at the end of the day, it is you who knows best how to spend their money. We can only give you suggestions on what we'd personally do.

 

[justinred]

Yup, not everyone likes the Provari. Well maybe just one.

 

[Aoi~]

I have 3 ProVaris, and I can't recommend them for RBAs. First few times you're building these, you're gonna run into shorts, ALOT. The ProVaris won't do you any good there. It won't fire. How are you gonna trouble shoot?

My advice is to get a 20 dollar ohm checker and the cheapie telescope mod from madvapes for 45 bucks. Fully mechanical, will fire anything you screw on there (That could be a good/bad thing but it's my most used when rebuilding SS mesh.) Also, do try to be careful with the button. Nothing happened to mine so far (knock on wood), but I've heard people breaking them /shrug (grips of steel maybe?).

Edit: When I say good/bad, I don't think it's gonna blow up in your face (I'm still here ) It'll just run the short and pop your coil, and you'll go @#^*&#@ and wrap a new coil, and go on with life.

 

[Baditude]

Yup, not everyone likes the Provari. Well maybe just one.

And we all know who The One is.

 

[tj99959]

With RBA's you are in full control of the resistance of the atomizer, so you need a VV apv like you need a third eye.
The preferred high end mod is the Super T Precise +. There are plenty of other mechanical mods that work well, I use a Mako.

 

[Baditude]

To the members of ECF. ShogaNinja and myself have a history of a fun, non-serious rivalry, or difference of opinions, primarily concerning the value vs price of a particular APV and its manufacturer. Our discussions and debates can get lengthy, but fear not that this thread will get hijacked any further than this. It's all in good fun. My bottom line is to present facts and not opinion.

And to Aoi~ , thank you for your opinion on a beginner not using a Provari with a RBA, a recommendation based on real experience. You explained your reasons in a pratical and understandable way that would certainly be useful to the OP.

...Sure, the cop out answer is Provari but, for that price of one of those, ...if something goes wrong, you won't be at the mercy of Provape to fix it;

You make it sound like Provape has lousy customer service. Say it isn't so, Shoga.

My vote is for the Smoktech VV Gripper. Yeah, it's made out of injected plastic with a rubberized finish, but I ask you this: do you think you can drop a steel Provari on the concrete (and ...you WILL probably drop it at some point) and it won't scratch? Rubber bounces.

First you say the Gripper is made of plastic, and then imply that because it has a "rubberized finish" (What's that, actually? A layer of paint?), that it will bounce off of concrete and not shatter into a hundred pieces. OK.

And yes, I have dropped my Provari on concrete. You were correct, it didn't bounce. But without a scratch because it was protected by my DIY rubber sleeve. It has continued to work flawlessly each time, because it was made to withstand such accidents. I don't even worry about dropping it any more; I just pick it up, do a quick inspection, and continue vaping.

There are 1000 ways to vape and Provape does NOT have the patent on it....

There's also a new tube mod on the market known as the "Stallion" by Texas Select Vapor that is also VW. It's in the $150 range, comes with a bigger battery than any you've ever likely seen, and it very well built.

I actually agree with you on this point. I've seen a couple of demo video's and studied the website for the Stallion, and I am quite impressed. However, the kit does sell for $175, and not $150. Impressive kit for the price, including 2 IMR batteries, an Xtar charger and USB/AC adaptor. Add in that it is USA built and appears to have the fit and finish of American-made quality and you have the makings of a great variable wattage APV. Finally there is something that might be competitive with the Provari.

I would have liked to have seen a longer warranty than just 6 months, or an option to extend it. It remains to be seen if Texas Select can keep up with supply and demand, and what their customer service will be like. But I'd rather put my money on them than any of the Far Eastern foreign manufacturers whose technology and quality of materials used leave something to be desired, and whose customer service is limited to non-existant.

 

[Darryll]

With RBA's you are in full control of the resistance of the atomizer, so you need a VV apv like you need a third eye.

You could also say that with variable voltage/wattage you need full control of your resistance like you need a third eye.

 

[Aoi~]

VV/VW has its place if you have more than one genesis atomizer. Once you get it going (coil/wick survive the first tank or two, no hotspots/shorts/funky metallic taste), then yeah put it on anything you like. With VV, I start at 3.0V and test fire again, then 3.4, then my usual voltage. With a kick, I just pick whatever atty I have running, and screw it on. For the rebuilding process, however, I prefer mechanical mods. It's just what works for me.

I, personally, am waiting for the DNA20 board to make its way into modders hands. A Jbox with a DNA20 board is on my wishlist for christmas.

Edit: I forgot to add, don't get the current version of the VV gripper. Screw on an RBA on there, set it at 3V, watch the coil pop, and you just wasted time and kanthal wire.

 

[elmattias]

To the members of ECF. ShogaNinja and myself have a history of a fun, non-serious rivalry, or difference of opinions, primarily concerning the value vs price of a particular APV and its manufacturer. Our discussions and debates can get lengthy, but fear not that this thread will get hijacked any further than this. It's all in good fun. My bottom line is to present facts and not opinion.

And to Aoi~ , thank you for your opinion on a beginner not using a Provari with a RBA, a recommendation based on real experience. You explained your reasons in a pratical and understandable way that would certainly be useful to the OP.

You make it sound like Provape has lousy customer service. Say it isn't so, Shoga.



First you say the Gripper is made of plastic, and then imply that because it has a "rubberized finish" (What's that, actually? A layer of paint?), that it will bounce off of concrete and not shatter into a hundred pieces. OK.

And yes, I have dropped my Provari on concrete. You were correct, it didn't bounce. But without a scratch because it was protected by my DIY rubber sleeve. It has continued to work flawlessly each time, because it was made to withstand such accidents. I don't even worry about dropping it any more; I just pick it up, do a quick inspection, and continue vaping.

I actually agree with you on this point. I've seen a couple of demo video's and studied the website for the Stallion, and I am quite impressed. However, the kit does sell for $175, and not $150. Impressive kit for the price, including 2 IMR batteries, an Xtar charger and USB/AC adaptor. Add in that it is USA built and appears to have the fit and finish of American-made quality and you have the makings of a great variable wattage APV. Finally there is something that might be competitive with the Provari.

I would have liked to have seen a longer warranty than just 6 months, or an option to extend it. It remains to be seen if Texas Select can keep up with supply and demand, and what their customer service will be like. But I'd rather put my money on them than any of the Far Eastern foreign manufacturers whose technology and quality of materials used leave something to be desired, and whose customer service is limited to non-existant.

all excellent points....i would also like to say that the stallion almost immediately sold out, and that since vapercon, has been basically rendered obsolete with the reveal of the DNA12 board....if you want true VW, you might as well wait for that, or use a kick, because you'd at least be able to tell what wattage you're at

 

[BoyNamedStacy]

The DNA12 is gonna change the game. I suspect many companies will either copy or buy in to the rights. Gonna be great IMHO.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Hmm, I gotta disagree with the VV (or VW) not being the way to go. I almost exclusively run my RBAs on VV/VW devices because the variation in resistance when wrapping new coils/wicks will give inconsistent vaping any other way. If you are going for ultra high power (15 watts +) then only mods with mechanical switches will do (no amp linit on a mech switch - also should look at MNKE batteries that have a 30amp discharge for safety). If, like most folks you vape in the the 8-10 watt range, than any decent VV (or kicked tube mod) will work great. People confuse the VV devices giving error messages as a flaw but it's really telling you you haven't oxidized your wick correctly or wrapped your coil correctly. I personally prefer the Provari V2 or kicked GGTS for home and KGO VV eGo style or VV Gripper for running around. Buuut, I use the Provari for all setups...

 

[NancyR]

I'm looking for a solid mod for my rba and I don't want anything with an electric button or is made out of plastic? Does anyone know if I should be looking for something that is vv or has an ohm display built in? I know eventunially I will get a full mech hybrid , but for the time being does anyone have any ideas?

Rather you like VV or VW or a full mechanical, OP please realize what you said you want as far "I don't want anything with an electric button" and "something that is vv or has an ohm display built in" just does not exist.

Even Silver Bullets have an electric button, and anything that has a mechanical button won't have the ohm display or be vv.

 

[aedwardw]

I would recommend a GP Paps cause that's what I want

 

[crashtest22]

For cheap I would say the lambo. It is what I am using right now and seems to work just fine.
has the variable, volts display, and ohm which is nice