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Kurt

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MFS rocks. Great unflavored juice. I'm going to add, however, my usual message of caution. If you are just starting DIY, please consider getting unflavored nic-juice at 48 mg or lower. 100 mg juice is very dangerous, and in the beginning DIY is very messy. I think people should learn on lower levels, where the risk of sickness from a mess, which will happen, is far lower. After you have figured out what all you will need, and how to do it safely, then try your more trained hand at higher nic levels.

MFS has great prices on all levels. It is not an enormous savings over an already low price to get 100 mg, and you will make equally good DIYs with 48 mg or lower. Just my professional opinion, as a chemist.
 

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Unfortunately I just bought the 100mg due to more bang for the buck. Is there
a guide to mixing with what precausions to take and what to use as far as vials etc. To mix cleanly?

There is no sticky that covers everything I can't find the countless threads I read on the topic but a good start is to stalk "Kurt" who posted in this thread. He is a chemist by trade and I read a ton of his posts on the subject in various threads. Click his name and view his posts lol.

Basics are protective gear, clean organized workspace, and clean sterile mixing equipment. Don't leave uncapped bottles of liquid laying around when done with a bottle cap it and put it in safe area. like not near the edge of a table. If you have pets or kids I would not even attempt to mix with them present in the room lock them out. Have a plan prior to deal with a possible spill or contact with yourself. Basically everything you learned in chemistry class. :)

What I am going to do is cut it immediately down to 50 mg/ml strength which while still dangerous not quite as hot as 100 mg/ml. I have 500 ml so I will use a 1000 ml glass bottle I bought and pour into funnel directly into that huge bottle. Then simply add 500 ml of PG and that is 50% dilution right off. And I only have to handle the 100 mg/ml stuff one time.

I started with some platinum ice 54 mg/ml then moved to 60 mg/ml now I have this higher stuff. Would be nice if there was a sticky all inclusive safety guide. But maybe they want to discourage people from the +50 mg/ml stuff for good reason. Think of all the common household stuff that folks have accidents with like cleaners, pesticides, etc. No matter how much you tell people an accident is almost a forgone conclusion with so many consumers using a product. I treat it as a poison like pesticides in fact nic is used as a pesticide lol.
 

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Another thread I can't remember recommended PGA like everclear 190 proof or lesser proof vodka. Everclear not for sale in VA so I bought some cheapo 80 proof vodka $7.50 for a fifth. Serves same purpose put some in bottle swirl around, transfer remaining vodka to next bottle to be sterilized repeat. Then drain and dry.

I picked up glass bottles specifically for long term storage not sure what kind of plastic is appropriate for that so I went with glass with polyseal caps. I was concerned about leeching of plastic for long term so instead of researching what kind of plastic went with the easy option. Granted plastic is safer from falls.
 

Kurt

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There is no sticky that covers everything I can't find the countless threads I read on the topic but a good start is to stalk "Kurt" who posted in this thread. He is a chemist by trade and I read a ton of his posts on the subject in various threads. Click his name and view his posts lol.

Basics are protective gear, clean organized workspace, and clean sterile mixing equipment. Don't leave uncapped bottles of liquid laying around when done with a bottle cap it and put it in safe area. like not near the edge of a table. If you have pets or kids I would not even attempt to mix with them present in the room lock them out. Have a plan prior to deal with a possible spill or contact with yourself. Basically everything you learned in chemistry class. :)

What I am going to do is cut it immediately down to 50 mg/ml strength which while still dangerous not quite as hot as 100 mg/ml. I have 500 ml so I will use a 1000 ml glass bottle I bought and pour into funnel directly into that huge bottle. Then simply add 500 ml of PG and that is 50% dilution right off. And I only have to handle the 100 mg/ml stuff one time.

I started with some platinum ice 54 mg/ml then moved to 60 mg/ml now I have this higher stuff. Would be nice if there was a sticky all inclusive safety guide. But maybe they want to discourage people from the +50 mg/ml stuff for good reason. Think of all the common household stuff that folks have accidents with like cleaners, pesticides, etc. No matter how much you tell people an accident is almost a forgone conclusion with so many consumers using a product. I treat it as a poison like pesticides in fact nic is used as a pesticide lol.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Scott EE! I would be careful of your dilution, however. The liquid must be fully mixed, and if it is thick and without much headroom after the addition of 100 mg, you could have significant hot spots of nic, and actually I would expect that. I actually, for that reason, opted to store it at 100 mg, and then dispense from a bottle with euro dropper via syringe for my DIYs. If you happen to have a magnetic stir plate, which most will not, then mixing this 50:50 can be done. But these liquids do not diffuse quickly like pure water, so make sure it is mixed well, please!! You want to know exactly what the conc is when you make a DIY juice. PM me if this doesn't make sense. What you think is 50 mg might be closer to 100 mg if it isn't mixed uniformly.

This is why Chris at MFS will not make 100 mg VG anymore, as it is too thick, and the nic which is added to the top might not mix uniformly. I cover that in the Storage thread. If you add PG or VG to the 100 mg liquid, rather than the other way around, at least the 100 mg will be on the bottom. And doing it little by little with mixing along the way would be better than just combining and screwing the cap on and storing.
 
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