Big Tobacco makes secret plea to avoid payout

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plantlvr

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Yeah it pisses me off but I'm not surprised. Of course BT knew what it was doing but with all that money to be had of course they weren't going to kill the golden goose.When they do finally settle I just wonder where all that money will go. Sure can't see it going to the people that actually need it, cancer victims and their families.
Speaking for myself, I knew that smoking could kill me but chose to do it anyway. The idea of suing BT for damages would never be an option for me. People that sue after the fact when they knew it was dangerous pisses me off also!
 

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I might be uneducated and naive but as I see it all the payoff from tobacco litigation falls on the addicts of nicotine. By what I've read so far a small percentage of any money that's been collected went to smokers or former smokers.

And when claims are made about the evils of big tobacco profiting I agree but the money collected is coming from current smokers. If you want to talk about real profit how about the trail lawyers. They made billions in class action suits. When does the litigation end on tobacco? Why should tobacco companies pay with out getting a guarantee of no more litigation. Generally the way things work is you admit to a crime, pay the fine and go on with life. You don't have to repay for the same thing every couple years......well unless your paying protection to the mafia.
 

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Wow!! I didn't know about that. It reminds me of the McDonalds law suit. I mean seriously, if you didn't know nicotine was addictive in 2004 you have lived in a bubble! Don't get me wrong making it more addictive isn't ok, but our government uses sex drive surpressive drugs in the water and food of our soldiers "in country" to keep it under control while they are at war. Why are their drug type manipulations ok? Why, because those persons joined the military (individual choice) and we smoked cigarettes (individual choice). It doesn't really matter how much the military manipulates the drug dosage used to accomplish this, the point is the soldiers knew it was happening, and they had already chose to serve. Like nicotine addiction we were aware that addiction and serious health issues were a possibility, but we chose to continue to engage anyway. My point is nicotine is addictive, just like crack. We all know the risk of both before we engage. We knew the more we smoked the harder it will be to stop. It does upset me that Big tobacco manipulated the time in which I became addicted, but who's to say that wouldn't have happened regardless. I mean honestly, we should take responsibility for our own choices. Yes, continuing to add those chemicals should be stopped and laws should prevent any further manipulation in that way, but most of us knew the risk before we took our first puff. And if we did not, that's because the research wasn't conclusive at that time. When the results were released they were based on conclusive evidence. I think there should be other nicotine delivery options available, now that I have this habit, like e-cigarettes.
furthermore, I can not blame Big Tobacco for my decision to start smoking in the first place.
Just like those of us that are not overweight know that Mcdonalds is not solely to blame for the obesity of those people that eat McDonalds everyday several times a day. Just like those who chose not to smoke know it is not Big tobacco's fault that smokers start smoking and become addicted. Just like it's not the drug dealer's fault crack users use crack. I've never used crack and have always known it was illegal and addictive, but I blame those that partake in it's use for their own circumstances. So, please understand that as an American I feel that we should be allowed to choose for ourselves what hazardous activities we partake in, but when my cord is defective and I die bungie jumping. I knew before I leaped, that was a possibility. Is it their fault that I became an adrenaline addict or is it mine? Enough said...
 

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A little personal responsibility goes a looong way. Alas, there seems to be too little of it for it to get spread on even a single bagel, let alone a planet...

If you started smoking in the 1950's or earlier, I feel for ya' and maybe there's a claim to be made there.

Any of us that started smoking in the 1970's or later need to .... and accept that we made poor life choices for our own reasons. IMHO, of course.
 

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This settlement will go to the Medicaid program for the money they used to treat health relative smoking cases. I guess they think some of these people on Medicaid are not smart enough to know smoking is bad for you.

I'm willing to file a class action suit against the tobacco industry. I started smoking in the late 60s. Back them there was no warning on cigarettes and there were advertisement all over TV and magazines. They had the Marlboro man. They made it look like smoking was cool. Young people could buy cigarette anywhere. They even had vending machine with cigarettes in them. Is anybody willing to join me in the suit. I now have COPD and other related health conditioin.

I'm not saying that later on that I realized smoking was bad for you but by this time I was addicted.
 
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