Biggest mistake of Vapers - the name E-gig

[Mutts]

I'm am an enthusiastic vaper and am appalled at government stances towards what is relatively harmless. It doesn't kill 6,000 people a year in the UK for a start!

And yet the most infuriating thing is that we have saddled ourselves with the name cigarette. Electronic inhalers, Vapers but never, never e-cigarettes. We are condemned out of hand because of it. We have simply handed them a huge crate of ammunition and said 'just keep shooting me in the foot will you?'

The latest VIP advert in the UK just pandered to that smoking image. A sexy dolled up women puffing away in clouds of vapour as seductively as possible holding the vaper as if she were some sort of 1920's elegant cigarette smoker using a fancy cigarette holder. Utter idiocy - cringeworthy - and just reinforces all their tenuous arguments about making smoking sexy and being a gateway for children.

 

[Susan~S]

Why It's Called An 'E-Cigarette' And 'E-Smoking'

 

[Robino1]

Moved from Simple Solutions to New Members.

 

[beauwulf]

Ok, read that and I can certainly see the point.

And this is probably a good discussion to have in the new members area because for me, the politics of vaping is new and unfamiliar territory. I've been off cigarettes for a few months, and quite eager to distance myself from them as much as possible right now. In the ten weeks I've been vaping regularly, I've learned a lot about mods and attys, coils and wicks, e-juice, batteries, even built a mosfet box mod, but I'm hopelessly naive about the politics.
Now I find that Alberta's brand-new ban on flavoured tobacco (to "protect the children") effectively does an end-run around the debate before it's even started. The act contains language which pretty much says vaping is smoking, a cigarette is anything that looks kinda like one, e-juice is tobacco (because it contains plant-based ingredients). And nobody's really noticed - the only criticizm we've heard is that it doesn't go far enough because it lets the old ladies keep their menthol.

So now it looks like I'm going to have to become an activist if I want to keep my alternative to smoking alive. It'd be nice not to shoot myself in the foot the first time I speak out in public.

And another thing (to channel Rosanne Rosannadanna): Why the hell aren't the anti-smoking groups all over this? It seems to me that aside from proposing new taxes for our own good, their favourite agenda is attacking big tobacco. Now I fully believe that the entire future market for vaping is current smokers. Really, I don't see why it'd be that attractive to anyone who isn't already addicted to nicotine. In a free market, we'd eat their lunch - just as satisfying, better flavours, way cheaper, and 99% less death & disease, there's no comparison. So why? Hasn't anyone told them what's really going on?

Oh, and to meander kinda back towards the original point. E-cigarettes: whenever I find some official statement from Health Canada, or the Canadian Cancer Society, or the Lung Association - kinda wishy-washy, "unproven" yadda, yadda, better to just quit smoking - you just know the only e-cigarette they've ever considered is one of those "cig-alikes". And that's where I wish I could draw the line. Yes, those things are definitely e-cigarettes. To my mind, they're just a crutch to get you through a period of not being able to smoke until you can get back to the real thing, everything reminds you of a real cigarette, just not as good. No wonder the tobacco companies are buying them up. But if you can get past cig-alikes to a real vaporizer, then you actually have a chance to realize that this could work, this could replace cigarettes completely, for the rest of your life.

So I guess that's where I have a problem with the e-cigarette name. I may be useful in getting those smokers who haven't come on board yet to give it a try, but it also doesn't present a great picture to some anti-smoking groups that really ought to be on our side.

 

[stevegmu]

I don't think governments will be fooled or give up trying to regulate e-nic by a name change...

 

[Katya]

I don't think governments will be fooled or give up trying to regulate e-nic by a name change...

A rose by any other name...

 

[Katya]

The latest VIP advert in the UK just pandered to that smoking image. A sexy dolled up women puffing away in clouds of vapour as seductively as possible holding the vaper as if she were some sort of 1920's elegant cigarette smoker using a fancy cigarette holder. Utter idiocy - cringeworthy - and just reinforces all their tenuous arguments about making smoking sexy and being a gateway for children.

Sexy dolled up women sell everything from dishwashers to cars. Fact of life.

But I've seen great ads for vaping, also.

Njoy.

 

[Rickajho]

Oh wow, like this hasn't been brought up a bazillion times already. Call it your grandma's knickers if that makes you feel better. If you think changing the name will make the issues vanish - no it won't.

 

[CassiusCloud]

Man i want that artist collection now!
That video made me hungry also!
Good video.

 

[Katya]

Man i want that artist collection now!
That video made me hungry also!
Good video.

I know--I can't decide if I want a snack, a glass of wine or a vape.

 

[stevegmu]

Oddly enough, I have never tried any of the juices by those manufacturers and have only even heard of GLV... I wonder which companies chose not to participate. I can't imagine the 4 chosen were the only ones in contention...

 

[Sketches]

Why it's called An 'E-Cigarette' And 'E-Smoking'

Whilst I think that vaping is a healthier and distinct option as opposed to smoking I think that article goes too far. Often a problem in any debate such as this both sides are as bad as each other. To claim that 'you put both in your mouth and the similarities end there' is literally true in a sense from a chemical perspective but it misses one big thing. It is 99% for delivery of nicotine and 99% intended as an alternative for (ex) smokers.

 

[Oliver Barry]

I know--I can't decide if I want a snack, a glass of wine or a vape.

How bout all 3... lol

 

[Treborsmug]

I've got 10 mods, Tanks, RDA, RTA, all the materials to rebuild and liquid mix with flavor, batteries for ever. All at about a 10th of the cost most people are paying by just doing the research and buying from the right sources. Now I'm set for life and don't care about any dam regulations or laws. Do what I want, when and where I want. They can't stop me now.

 

[Sketches]

I've got 10 mods, Tanks, RDA, RTA, all the materials to rebuild and liquid mix with flavor, batteries for ever. All at about a 10th of the cost most people are paying by just doing the research and buying from the right sources. Now I'm set for life and don't care about any dam regulations or laws. Do what I want, when and where I want. They can't stop me now.

Oddly reminiscent of the whole, buy your guns now, the guvment is going to take them

 

[Treborsmug]

That's what I like about relocating to the south from the north. Come and get'em......if you think you can....

 

[roosterado]

I've got 10 mods, Tanks, RDA, RTA, all the materials to rebuild and liquid mix with flavor, batteries for ever. All at about a 10th of the cost most people are paying by just doing the research and buying from the right sources. Now I'm set for life and don't care about any dam regulations or laws. Do what I want, when and where I want. They can't stop me now.

Do you have any concern about How Regulations might affect those who are still smoking,want to quit,might be able to with the advantage of the Innovative products we are fortunate to have access to that might disappear with over regulation? Or are you just looking out for Yourself?

 

[Arukas]

Sexy dolled up women sell everything from dishwashers to cars. Fact of life.

But I've seen great ads for vaping, also.

Njoy.

On the topic of great vape advertising, nothing will beat the P3 teaser for me. I still get the music stuck in my head randomly.



If you wanna talk about "sexy" advertising... that's total vape porn for a lot of people, but it's attractive to vapers and doesn't come off as a cheesy cigarette commercial from the 60s.

As far as the premise of the thread, I totally agree. I hate the term e-cigarette and I hate when people call vaping smoking (even vapers do this). I'll probably never visit one of the closest vape shops to me since it's named "Unique Cigs."

 

[stevegmu]

Uh, oh.....

 

[Knvern]

I tend to agree with OP, even if you wanna break it down
the definition of cigarette is "a thin cylinder of finely cut tobacco rolled in paper for smoking"
and vaporizers aren't anything close to that. Even if you put aside the fact that it is electronic.
I'm opening a Vapor store myself, and you wouldn't believe the looks and criticism I get from ignorant people, just because of the name "e-cig"