that's wonderful!!! and yes, definitely good to contact reps to ask if they've seen it. But I've given up writing, now I call them. Both local and WA offices. It may not be any better, but at least it seems like someone is listening. lol
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Truth.Not going to argue this but I am going to say it once.
The refusal to do all you can to stop the deeming because you think someone else might derive some benifit from thier efforts is comparable to shooting yourself in the foot to ruin your shoe so noone else can use it........just brilliant.
Aaron brought up a very good point in the webinar. He said that it is difficult to have people take their film seriously when their channel on Youtube has only 2,500 subscribers while "vaping celebrities" like P Busardo, Suck My Mod, etc. has over 100,000 subscribers each. People question why should they support this film when even vapers don't support it.
So, yesterday I was contemplating my next mod purchase. After reading this thread and watching the webinar I decided to buy a couple of shirts instead. I'll have enough mods for the foreseeable future and I'd really like for this film to succeed. Money well spent.
As long as it gets the congress critters investigating, talking and debating over vaping then I see it as a very good thing.
From a post on Facebook today:
Aaron is in Istanbul and things are moving along!
Hum, not sure the video will display.... if you have a Facebook account scroll down a little and the video is there.
Aaron is in Istanbul and things are moving along!
Hum, not sure the video will display.... if you have a Facebook account scroll down a little and the video is there.
I know a couple of people from Turkey. Smoking is very popular there. I suspect vaping is banned for the same reasons as here. Protect certain interests.
Not going to argue this but I am going to say it once.
The refusal to do all you can to stop the deeming because you think someone else might derive some benifit from thier efforts is comparable to shooting yourself in the foot to ruin your shoe so noone else can use it........just brilliant.
I would think after the 20 Grand in donations to this 'lil movie project:
that produced... absolutely nothing at all - you can appreciate how some folks here can be a little touchy about any connections to financial matters associated with vape films.
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awwwwwwww that's great!! Wear em proudly, hopefully folks will ask about it and you can tell em.
we're not askin anyone to donate money, other than to maybe buy a t-shirt so maybe folks will ask about it when the person is wearing it. And it has produced a documentary that was just shown to at least some in Congress. They're just trying to release it in a way that have the maximum exposure. I don't know these guys, but they certainly have a vested interest in seeing it released, so I'm trusting that they want it released. But if it is put out there, and very few see it, then it will be a flop and won't help us at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but that makes sense to meI would think after the 20 Grand in donations to this 'lil movie project:
that produced... absolutely nothing at all - you can appreciate how some folks here can be a little touchy about any connections to financial matters associated with vape films.
Von Vape reporting in!
Dateline Wasilla, Alaska!
Here's the sign I posted in all three LVS's :
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[Editorial;
I've said it before & I'm saying it AGAIN! I'm baffled at the amount of divisiveness within the vaping community! And that's just on this ONE SINGLE forum! If this kind of divisiveness were prevalent in 1774, this country would NOT exist! It's called getting behind a common cause people! I imagine that few then (1774) agreed on every little detail or even many of the major ones BUT they all got behind a common cause and worked the details out later. The constitution and bill of rights still wasn't "perfect" and didn't & still doesn't address ALL things for ALL people and has been shredded to confetti since but that's on us for electing the people we have and allowing them to do it. The point is, you have to win the war by uniting and supporting a common cause. Ironing out the differences comes second. As a fellow ECFer put it, "We all have to row in the same direction, TOGETHER." (My addition: If we have ANY hope of getting across the river! Otherwise we're just going to be swept down stream and over the falls!) That's what is happening too. "We" are already woefully outnumbered. If the number of vapers in the U.S. is anywhere close to accurate @ 9 million, it's completely ironic because that is exactly the same estimated number of supporters Bernie Sanders managed to attain during his ENTIRE campaign, and you see where that got him. We are also OVERWHELMINGLY out financed, not only by B.P. & B.T. but the American Lung Association, G.M. and even AARP!!! (I know, not a "news flash" to most) The corruption runs SO DEEP that, frankly, I personally see little hope of "winning" this war. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel. What it does mean is this fight is going to take resolve AND continuity! "The Colonies" were out manned and underfinanced in 1774, with little hope of winning OUR independence, BUT THEY DID by banning together and supporting a common cause.
As noted previously, this film is more about exposing that corruption and the DEEP POCKETS that fund it and manipulate the system. Vaping is just the vehicle they chose to use to illustrate that point. Fortunately for "us", AT LEAST ONE WOULD THINK, they did! Also, as pointed out earlier, IT DOESN'T COST A SINGLE DIME to click "Like" on FB, "follow" their page, or "Share" them on Twitter. Buy the shirt if you want, don't if you don't but DO SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE for GOD's SAKE!!! Now is the time EVERY vaper should be doing EVERYTHING they can to SUPPORT the COMMON CAUSE! I personally can't afford a single dime of monetary contribution but my clicking finger isn't broken and I do have some time and gas, paper, ink and passion to spare. All the film makers are asking is that you not be apathetic.
Sadly, these are the times we live in! "This isn't exactly the way I'd like to see it." or "Why don't you just do it "this" way?" (also addressed in the second video) or "I just can't afford/I'm too busy to. Let somebody else take care of it." Few are truly passionate about ANYTHING now-a-days and if that's how you feel about vaping, I hope you are really well stocked up because the end IS near!
My
Von Vape Reporting.........
Dateline Wasilla, Alaska!
Here's the sign I posted in all three LVS's :
It's THAT SIMPLE folks! It doesn't cost YOU or ANYONE else a single DIME!!!
_________________________________________________________________________[Editorial;
I've said it before & I'm saying it AGAIN! I'm baffled at the amount of divisiveness within the vaping community! And that's just on this ONE SINGLE forum! If this kind of divisiveness were prevalent in 1774, this country would NOT exist! It's called getting behind a common cause people! I imagine that few then (1774) agreed on every little detail or even many of the major ones BUT they all got behind a common cause and worked the details out later. The constitution and bill of rights still wasn't "perfect" and didn't & still doesn't address ALL things for ALL people and has been shredded to confetti since but that's on us for electing the people we have and allowing them to do it. The point is, you have to win the war by uniting and supporting a common cause. Ironing out the differences comes second. As a fellow ECFer put it, "We all have to row in the same direction, TOGETHER." (My addition: If we have ANY hope of getting across the river! Otherwise we're just going to be swept down stream and over the falls!) That's what is happening too. "We" are already woefully outnumbered. If the number of vapers in the U.S. is anywhere close to accurate @ 9 million, it's completely ironic because that is exactly the same estimated number of supporters Bernie Sanders managed to attain during his ENTIRE campaign, and you see where that got him. We are also OVERWHELMINGLY out financed, not only by B.P. & B.T. but the American Lung Association, G.M. and even AARP!!! (I know, not a "news flash" to most) The corruption runs SO DEEP that, frankly, I personally see little hope of "winning" this war. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel. What it does mean is this fight is going to take resolve AND continuity! "The Colonies" were out manned and underfinanced in 1774, with little hope of winning OUR independence, BUT THEY DID by banning together and supporting a common cause.
As noted previously, this film is more about exposing that corruption and the DEEP POCKETS that fund it and manipulate the system. Vaping is just the vehicle they chose to use to illustrate that point. Fortunately for "us", AT LEAST ONE WOULD THINK, they did! Also, as pointed out earlier, IT DOESN'T COST A SINGLE DIME to click "Like" on FB, "follow" their page, or "Share" them on Twitter. Buy the shirt if you want, don't if you don't but DO SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE for GOD's SAKE!!! Now is the time EVERY vaper should be doing EVERYTHING they can to SUPPORT the COMMON CAUSE! I personally can't afford a single dime of monetary contribution but my clicking finger isn't broken and I do have some time and gas, paper, ink and passion to spare. All the film makers are asking is that you not be apathetic.
Sadly, these are the times we live in! "This isn't exactly the way I'd like to see it." or "Why don't you just do it "this" way?" (also addressed in the second video) or "I just can't afford/I'm too busy to. Let somebody else take care of it." Few are truly passionate about ANYTHING now-a-days and if that's how you feel about vaping, I hope you are really well stocked up because the end IS near!
My
Von Vape Reporting.........
Von Vape reporting in!
Dateline Wasilla, Alaska!
Here's the sign I posted in all three LVS's :
View attachment 564387_________________________________________________________________________
It's THAT SIMPLE folks! It doesn't cost YOU or ANYONE else a single DIME!!!_________________________________________________________________________
[Editorial;
I've said it before & I'm saying it AGAIN! I'm baffled at the amount of divisiveness within the vaping community! And that's just on this ONE SINGLE forum! If this kind of divisiveness were prevalent in 1774, this country would NOT exist! It's called getting behind a common cause people! I imagine that few then (1774) agreed on every little detail or even many of the major ones BUT they all got behind a common cause and worked the details out later. The constitution and bill of rights still wasn't "perfect" and didn't & still doesn't address ALL things for ALL people and has been shredded to confetti since but that's on us for electing the people we have and allowing them to do it. The point is, you have to win the war by uniting and supporting a common cause. Ironing out the differences comes second. As a fellow ECFer put it, "We all have to row in the same direction, TOGETHER." (My addition: If we have ANY hope of getting across the river! Otherwise we're just going to be swept down stream and over the falls!) That's what is happening too. "We" are already woefully outnumbered. If the number of vapers in the U.S. is anywhere close to accurate @ 9 million, it's completely ironic because that is exactly the same estimated number of supporters Bernie Sanders managed to attain during his ENTIRE campaign, and you see where that got him. We are also OVERWHELMINGLY out financed, not only by B.P. & B.T. but the American Lung Association, G.M. and even AARP!!! (I know, not a "news flash" to most) The corruption runs SO DEEP that, frankly, I personally see little hope of "winning" this war. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel. What it does mean is this fight is going to take resolve AND continuity! "The Colonies" were out manned and underfinanced in 1774, with little hope of winning OUR independence, BUT THEY DID by banning together and supporting a common cause.
As noted previously, this film is more about exposing that corruption and the DEEP POCKETS that fund it and manipulate the system. Vaping is just the vehicle they chose to use to illustrate that point. Fortunately for "us", AT LEAST ONE WOULD THINK, they did! Also, as pointed out earlier, IT DOESN'T COST A SINGLE DIME to click "Like" on FB, "follow" their page, or "Share" them on Twitter. Buy the shirt if you want, don't if you don't but DO SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE for GOD's SAKE!!! Now is the time EVERY vaper should be doing EVERYTHING they can to SUPPORT the COMMON CAUSE! I personally can't afford a single dime of monetary contribution but my clicking finger isn't broken and I do have some time and gas, paper, ink and passion to spare. All the film makers are asking is that you not be apathetic.
Sadly, these are the times we live in! "This isn't exactly the way I'd like to see it." or "Why don't you just do it "this" way?" (also addressed in the second video) or "I just can't afford/I'm too busy to. Let somebody else take care of it." Few are truly passionate about ANYTHING now-a-days and if that's how you feel about vaping, I hope you are really well stocked up because the end IS near!
My
Thanks so much for posting the flyer you created, that's wonderful! Love the attention grabbing colors. Jup we all have to band together as much as we can. God forbid maybe this documentary won't do anything for us, but it won't be the first ineffective thing we've supported. I know folks are tired of sending emails that don't even get noticed, but I really feel this has at least a good chance of doing something good for us!! Soooo glad you took that to your shops and they put it up.
Not a problem AT ALL sweetie! It was my pleasure!
A little more on that, NONE knew anything about the movie.
The smoke & vape shop owner was tepid at best and told me, "You can't tape it to the windows, just lay it over there with the "free press" newspapers. I have customers to deal with." (very ICGASL)
The Vape & Head Shop "dudes" were, "Oh ya man! We all have to do whatever we can! So I can just bring it up on YouTube and play it in the store, right?" (That took some pretty extensive explaining and I ultimately left it at, Just put this flyer in a prominent place and drive "Likes" & "Shares" to their Twitter & F.B. Pages. I got an, "Oh for sure! You bet dude!")
The glimmer of hope came with my visit to Fatboy Vapors (www.fatboyvapors.com) (edit out if necessary) a national "franchise", local, vape shop. As it turned out, the owner is the head of the Alaska Pro Vaping movement, Clear The Air, and even she was unaware of the film BUT we did end up engaging in an hour and a half long discussion about many aspects of the politics involved, who to contact locally, who's "on our side" (locally) who's against us (equally important to know) where to look and who to contact. If I'd known, I would have taken a note pad because she mentioned at least a couple of the vaping industry's lobbyists that work very closely with the Alaska organization and have testified on our behalf several times in the past. There again though, she pointed out the HUGE financial investment, explaining that there are about 20 vape shoips in the whole state and even if they each contributed $1,000, that's a drop in the bucket compared to the REAL money major organizations are throwing around. That's when I found out that even AARP is anti vaping!!!
Still, to me & my lovely bride, "this" IS worth fighting for!!! Anything & everything within my ability for the common goal!!! SAVING VAPING!!!
Vape On!
Von Vape
A little more on that, NONE knew anything about the movie.
The smoke & vape shop owner was tepid at best and told me, "You can't tape it to the windows, just lay it over there with the "free press" newspapers. I have customers to deal with." (very ICGASL)
The Vape & Head Shop "dudes" were, "Oh ya man! We all have to do whatever we can! So I can just bring it up on YouTube and play it in the store, right?" (That took some pretty extensive explaining and I ultimately left it at, Just put this flyer in a prominent place and drive "Likes" & "Shares" to their Twitter & F.B. Pages. I got an, "Oh for sure! You bet dude!")
The glimmer of hope came with my visit to Fatboy Vapors (www.fatboyvapors.com) (edit out if necessary) a national "franchise", local, vape shop. As it turned out, the owner is the head of the Alaska Pro Vaping movement, Clear The Air, and even she was unaware of the film BUT we did end up engaging in an hour and a half long discussion about many aspects of the politics involved, who to contact locally, who's "on our side" (locally) who's against us (equally important to know) where to look and who to contact. If I'd known, I would have taken a note pad because she mentioned at least a couple of the vaping industry's lobbyists that work very closely with the Alaska organization and have testified on our behalf several times in the past. There again though, she pointed out the HUGE financial investment, explaining that there are about 20 vape shoips in the whole state and even if they each contributed $1,000, that's a drop in the bucket compared to the REAL money major organizations are throwing around. That's when I found out that even AARP is anti vaping!!!
Still, to me & my lovely bride, "this" IS worth fighting for!!! Anything & everything within my ability for the common goal!!! SAVING VAPING!!!
Vape On!
Von Vape Additional info about FBV. As I said, they are a national franchise and the owner of the local shop encouraged me to contact the head office and pass along the info as well. I went to their web page (same) and politely asked them to check out this thread (copied and pasted) and watch BOTH videos you posted in the OP. I went on to ask them Please, please, promote this film and links to the FB &T pages, NATIONWIDE. Naturally, I have no way of knowing what might happen but at least I gave it a shot.
Well said, Von. I've signed the petitions, sent the emails, made the calls, Tweeted, & FB'd. Now I'm behind this. Know what I'm NOT doing? I'm not sitting on my .... doing nothing other than complain, or critisize those who are doing SOMETHING.Von Vape reporting in!
Dateline Wasilla, Alaska!
Here's the sign I posted in all three LVS's :
View attachment 564387_________________________________________________________________________
It's THAT SIMPLE folks! It doesn't cost YOU or ANYONE else a single DIME!!!_________________________________________________________________________
[Editorial;
I've said it before & I'm saying it AGAIN! I'm baffled at the amount of divisiveness within the vaping community! And that's just on this ONE SINGLE forum! If this kind of divisiveness were prevalent in 1774, this country would NOT exist! It's called getting behind a common cause people! I imagine that few then (1774) agreed on every little detail or even many of the major ones BUT they all got behind a common cause and worked the details out later. The constitution and bill of rights still wasn't "perfect" and didn't & still doesn't address ALL things for ALL people and has been shredded to confetti since but that's on us for electing the people we have and allowing them to do it. The point is, you have to win the war by uniting and supporting a common cause. Ironing out the differences comes second. As a fellow ECFer put it, "We all have to row in the same direction, TOGETHER." (My addition: If we have ANY hope of getting across the river! Otherwise we're just going to be swept down stream and over the falls!) That's what is happening too. "We" are already woefully outnumbered. If the number of vapers in the U.S. is anywhere close to accurate @ 9 million, it's completely ironic because that is exactly the same estimated number of supporters Bernie Sanders managed to attain during his ENTIRE campaign, and you see where that got him. We are also OVERWHELMINGLY out financed, not only by B.P. & B.T. but the American Lung Association, G.M. and even AARP!!! (I know, not a "news flash" to most) The corruption runs SO DEEP that, frankly, I personally see little hope of "winning" this war. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel. What it does mean is this fight is going to take resolve AND continuity! "The Colonies" were out manned and underfinanced in 1774, with little hope of winning OUR independence, BUT THEY DID by banning together and supporting a common cause.
As noted previously, this film is more about exposing that corruption and the DEEP POCKETS that fund it and manipulate the system. Vaping is just the vehicle they chose to use to illustrate that point. Fortunately for "us", AT LEAST ONE WOULD THINK, they did! Also, as pointed out earlier, IT DOESN'T COST A SINGLE DIME to click "Like" on FB, "follow" their page, or "Share" them on Twitter. Buy the shirt if you want, don't if you don't but DO SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE for GOD's SAKE!!! Now is the time EVERY vaper should be doing EVERYTHING they can to SUPPORT the COMMON CAUSE! I personally can't afford a single dime of monetary contribution but my clicking finger isn't broken and I do have some time and gas, paper, ink and passion to spare. All the film makers are asking is that you not be apathetic.
Sadly, these are the times we live in! "This isn't exactly the way I'd like to see it." or "Why don't you just do it "this" way?" (also addressed in the second video) or "I just can't afford/I'm too busy to. Let somebody else take care of it." Few are truly passionate about ANYTHING now-a-days and if that's how you feel about vaping, I hope you are really well stocked up because the end IS near!
My
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Von Vape reporting in!
Dateline Wasilla, Alaska!
Here's the sign I posted in all three LVS's :
View attachment 564387_________________________________________________________________________
It's THAT SIMPLE folks! It doesn't cost YOU or ANYONE else a single DIME!!!_________________________________________________________________________
[Editorial;
I've said it before & I'm saying it AGAIN! I'm baffled at the amount of divisiveness within the vaping community! And that's just on this ONE SINGLE forum! If this kind of divisiveness were prevalent in 1774, this country would NOT exist! It's called getting behind a common cause people! I imagine that few then (1774) agreed on every little detail or even many of the major ones BUT they all got behind a common cause and worked the details out later. The constitution and bill of rights still wasn't "perfect" and didn't & still doesn't address ALL things for ALL people and has been shredded to confetti since but that's on us for electing the people we have and allowing them to do it. The point is, you have to win the war by uniting and supporting a common cause. Ironing out the differences comes second. As a fellow ECFer put it, "We all have to row in the same direction, TOGETHER." (My addition: If we have ANY hope of getting across the river! Otherwise we're just going to be swept down stream and over the falls!) That's what is happening too. "We" are already woefully outnumbered. If the number of vapers in the U.S. is anywhere close to accurate @ 9 million, it's completely ironic because that is exactly the same estimated number of supporters Bernie Sanders managed to attain during his ENTIRE campaign, and you see where that got him. We are also OVERWHELMINGLY out financed, not only by B.P. & B.T. but the American Lung Association, G.M. and even AARP!!! (I know, not a "news flash" to most) The corruption runs SO DEEP that, frankly, I personally see little hope of "winning" this war. That doesn't mean it's time to throw in the towel. What it does mean is this fight is going to take resolve AND continuity! "The Colonies" were out manned and underfinanced in 1774, with little hope of winning OUR independence, BUT THEY DID by banning together and supporting a common cause.
As noted previously, this film is more about exposing that corruption and the DEEP POCKETS that fund it and manipulate the system. Vaping is just the vehicle they chose to use to illustrate that point. Fortunately for "us", AT LEAST ONE WOULD THINK, they did! Also, as pointed out earlier, IT DOESN'T COST A SINGLE DIME to click "Like" on FB, "follow" their page, or "Share" them on Twitter. Buy the shirt if you want, don't if you don't but DO SOMETHING SUPPORTIVE for GOD's SAKE!!! Now is the time EVERY vaper should be doing EVERYTHING they can to SUPPORT the COMMON CAUSE! I personally can't afford a single dime of monetary contribution but my clicking finger isn't broken and I do have some time and gas, paper, ink and passion to spare. All the film makers are asking is that you not be apathetic.
Sadly, these are the times we live in! "This isn't exactly the way I'd like to see it." or "Why don't you just do it "this" way?" (also addressed in the second video) or "I just can't afford/I'm too busy to. Let somebody else take care of it." Few are truly passionate about ANYTHING now-a-days and if that's how you feel about vaping, I hope you are really well stocked up because the end IS near!
My
I only quoted this first post, but everything you said and have done is admirable and I, for one, can't thank you enough! Spread the word! I have no B&Ms nearby, but in another week or so I will be able to do some local travel and attempt to spark some local support. May I use your flyer?
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