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  1. KatrinaMarie15

    KatrinaMarie15 New Member

    May 17, 2018
    Hello I'm new to the Ecig community I just needed some help figuring stuff out.
    I started smoking blacks three years ago and I wanted to try Ecigs I hate how I feel from smoking and I would quit but I love all the designs of Vapes. I was looking for liquids and realized there's different nicotine mgs and I'm not quite sure what would be equal to Jazz B&Ms.
    Ask questions if needed I really need answers thank you
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  2. Vapemesilly

    Vapemesilly Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2017
    Howdy. Not sure how much nicotine B&M's have but 18 mg juice would be comparable to a regular cigarette. 12 mg juice would compare to a light cigarette. If you know how much nicotine is in a B&M you could make an educated guess on what mg juice would work for you to start.
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  3. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Too many variables to give a semi accurate beginning nic mg/ml recommendation.
    Depends on how many you smoke per day, type of delivery device used, method of inhale, power range used, absorption rate, type of nicotine / freebase vs nic salts and so on.
    Vaping versus smoking is quite different, there really isn't an accurate formula like 2 cigars per day = 12 mg/ml.

    Jazz B/M actually contain quite a high level of nic.
    The key is to use a high enough nic mg/ml to help calm the cravings, but low enough not to cause symptoms of nicotine sickness.

    I'd suggest getting small bottles various nic mg/ml liquids say 3, 6, 12, 18 and experiment to see what works best for you.
    Be a good idea to get some 0 nic too, so you can dilute those you find too strong.
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  4. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    It is complicated.

    Step one: do you want LOTS of vapor per puff, and to use lower MG nicotine and create more vapor? If so you'd be looking at what is called "sub0hm" vaping, which usually requires a larger device, has coils that are of lower resistance and vaped at higher wattage, with less nic per puff (because the puffs are large?) If so, I'd suggest trying some higher VG (vegetable glycerin) lower nic juices, like 3, 4, 6 m.g. etc. Some folks prefer this type of vaping out of the gate. It does use more juice and battery power.

    Or, do you want to MTL vape, where the puff and draw is more similar to a cigarette, and you use less eliquid per puff but at higher strength? Often, MTL devices are smaller, you would need less battery life and less liquid (although at a higher percentage of nicotine, it really can be six of one, half a dozen of the other and etc. That type of setup, many folks starting out will be looking in the 12--24 range, depending on how much they smoked. Often, the juices are vaped with less VG, and more PG

    Those are some generalities, but we do need to know what type of vaper you are, to give you a better sense of what your options are.

    Please keep asking questions, until you feel like you understand. I'm rooting for you. Switching to vaping after only 3 years of smoking is ideal. I got more addicted to tobacco the longer I smoked it, so welcome to ECF.

    Keep asking questions :)

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  5. untar

    untar Vaping Master

    Feb 7, 2018
    A German vaper group recently made a survey and based on that data devised a tool to calculate what you'll approximately need as someone switching to vaping
    Umstiegsrechner - Interessengemeinschaft E-Dampfen e.V.

    Presumably you don't speak German but you can use google translate in a different tab to do the translating for you (the tool itself won't work via translate, at least it doesn't for me).
    Google Translate
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  6. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Jazz B/M isn't a cigarette, they are cigarillos / mini cigars & contain 100 - 200 milligrams of nic, each...
    Usually not inhaled but smoke held in mouth for varying time periods which effects absorption rate, if inhaled absorption can be much higher.

    Absorption rate is all but impossible to determine without use of cotinine tests.
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  7. CagedSpam

    CagedSpam Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2015
    FoPo, Oregon
    Sounds like nic salts at 24mg+ might be worth a try? You might not get the cigarillo throat hit with salts though.
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  8. Jeezus187

    Jeezus187 Senior Member

    Oct 11, 2017
    Los angeles california
    Black n milds are gross try 3 and 6 ml
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  9. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    The information below may help you learn more about vaping and provide many answers.
    Haptic Habit
    A Word On Vaping Technique | Nicoticket
    frequently_asked_questions - electronic_cigarette
    Buying and Using an Electronic Cigarette: A Primer
    r/electronic_cigarette - Visual Learning - Beginner's guide to vaping
    Guide: The Beginners Guide to Vaping | onVaping
    Nicotine Strengths In Refill Liquid
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