whats the pros and cons of getting the liquids and refilling your own compared to a cartomizer? is it cheaper to refill or what? better vape?
Matt, I'm sensing a little confusion in this post. In case you are unaware, you CAN refill cartomizers. I use cartomizers on my Riva (and all my other devices for that matter). I buy boxes of empty ones and put my own juice in them.
It's easy. There's a couple ways to do it. Just go to you tube and search "filling cartomizers".
I find them easier to use than a cart and atty, they hold a lot more juice and I like the flavor and hit from them better.
If you get a Riva you'll get a couple attys with your kit so just pick up a box of 5 cartos for 8 or 9 bucks and you'll have both and can decide for yourself.