Blood tests for nicotine

[LauraBolyard]

Ok, sorry, asked this in Vets, but asked it again in "noobs". Need to tame a blood test a d sign a "tobacco-free " affidavit. Whereas I do not smoke analogs anymore, I don't know how this will show up. The affidavit doesn't bother me cause I am NOT using tobacco, but I havt to wonder how it shows up. I did read an old thread... I vape with a Smoketip, 2-3 16 mg cargos per day. Any idea what I can expect from the blood test or how much I need to refrain in the days ahead? Running out of time, please help!!

 

[evilfrog]

I don't know how long it will stay in your blood, but you will fail the test if you are vaping 16mg liquid. If it is too late I'd tell them you are using an NRT product, and if that doesn't work ask for a cabon monoxide test (I this is correct) of your breathing, as this will prove you aren't smoking. So long as you promised to be smoke free and not nocotine free, you should be ok in theory, but in practice this could be an issue because of how they test.

 

[Boodle]

You'll fail the nicotine test if you're vaping juice with nic. That's what happened on my life insurance test.

 

[Aladdin]

No experience with this, Just going with common sense. I have to think that nicotine will show up in a blood test if you vape. I had the same question and the more I thought about it, I realized that no matter how you take a substance into your body, it's going to register.
Convincing the tester you don't use tobacco will be a toughie.

Aladdin~

 

[LauraBolyard]

Exactly, research has told me three days fir nicotine, but longer for carotine (spelled wrong). This is in analogs, hoping maybe less time in vaping

 

[LST1179]

On my life insurance application they asked if I used "nicotine products" and they test for nicotine of course. I'm not telling you what you should do, but I think nicotine metabolizes 100% in about 20 minutes (that's why you need another smoke!). So, if you stop vaping for three days and drink plenty of water, there will be no nicotine in your blood.

 

[MTV]

most companies view ex-smokers and smokers the same until a certain time period had elapsed...can vary with companies. Nicotine traces are gone from the system with 1 week. They test for cotinine which is a metabolite of nicotine. Ask for a anabasine test if that is available, that is only present in tobacco.

 

[Caver]

I know for my health insurance, they use the term "tobacco use". Therefore, If one tests positive for nicotine, it makes no difference if it's coming from vaping or analogs.

It does irritate me that they make no distinction between smoking and vaping...but it's all part of the politics and the money tied up in the tobacco lobby.

So...even if I quit analogs completely, if I vape any nicotine, I still have to pay the "tobacco users surcharge" on my insurance.

Good luck!

 

[proax9]

When I was using analogs- I stopped smoking them for 4 days. No NIC at all for 4 days- I still failed the L. Insurance test.
The level was low enough that I was put in a high risk, but not the highest risk.

 

[untitledblue]

I'm not condoning this in any way, but if you stick to e liquid w/o the nic for some time (probably google search the time it takes to get nic out of your system) then you should be able to pass the test.

 

[LauraBolyard]

I am not being deceptive, right? Bit they wanted to say nicotine free, then they would say that. They are asking tobacco free. They can't be stupid IMO . Is it the same in their eyes? Why dies t the affidavit say "nicotine-free"? Wondering...

 

[MTV]

because they do a nic check and don't care about the source...both are bad in their eyes...either smoker or ex-smoker.

 

[MTV]

the actuaries are only number crunchers...they feed that data into the system.

 

[dee5]

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they use a blood test to test for cotinine. Your body produces cotinine in response to the nicotine you intake, it is not present in tobacco. I think the cotinine test is a mouth swab. Read this link:
Nicotine / Cotinine: The Test

 

[LauraBolyard]

Not wanting to be deceptive (so much) but they ARE asking for tobacco, yes I would be truths upon the affidavit, but it won't agree in nicotine

 

[JackSam]

Another thing to consider, since the FDA decided they will comply with the court ruling in regulating ecigarettes as tobacco products, I would expect insurance companies and the like would look to the FDA and consider them as tobacco products as well.

 

[MTV]

..they can use either test for continine, a metabolite of nicotine. Mouth swabs are generally used in second-hand smoke trials.

 

[keelalagirl55]

Have you thought about contacting the insur company directly and asking them anonymously? Problem with testing for nicotine....nicotine is also contained in some foods...nicotine is not only a substance found in tobacco.

Another point is that nicotine is used in the medical field as well (not in ciggie form) to treat several ailments....Alzheimer being a big one. In all fairness, they need to find a different test for their policies....one that will trace the nicotine source directly to tobacco, be it smoking or chewing tobacco.

 

[Glam]

They will consider e cigs the same as tobacco cigs until they have statistics showing them to be safer than tobacco. They have not been around long enough yet to develop statistics. My husband works for a large insurance company....and at this time the rates for vapers and smokers are the same. Might be different in the future.

 

[Boodle]

+1 for dee5. My urine test came back positive for nic. They didn't say anything about the blood test. Maybe it won't show up? Insurance salesman said drink lots of water and I'd be clear in 72 hrs. Going without nic for that long would be a challenge for me and those in close proximity.