Boge Cartos in UFS

[EsxPaul]

Funky - have a watch of this video:

http://www.vapourtrails.tv/?p=3302

I had your exact problem and sent my UFS to Dave Dorn (hifistud) so he could take a look for me. He filmed the whole thing (start of video to the 20 minute mark). Pay particular attention to how he tightens the connector that houses those small o rings.

 

[EsxPaul]

I had your exact view of the problem and tried everything you have tried. I was also convinced it was a faulty base cup, so I sent it off to hifistud for a second opinion.

The only single thing he did differently to me was tighten that connector with more force than I had been doing. Whereas I was tightening just a little more than hand tight, he went quite a bit further. That was the only difference and it has never leaked juice since that change.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Dear God, this is the greatest video ever. Let me watch the rest of it, I'll keep you posted

 

[FunkyVapes]

Well, I watched it, and though it was detailed I can assure you mine was just as tight if not tighter than his.

Again, if the juice control is closed and it is leaking through with only .5mls in it, it can't be the little O'rings, the juice isn't even near them at all.

Alas, I am going to strip this thing to every component again and put it back together slowly and carefully.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Ok. I'm done with this. Who wants a UFS V2? Clear Window, SS Window. 2X Atty Extenders. An O'ring replacement kit (1x #8 Missing).

 

[EsxPaul]

Ok. I'm done with this. Who wants a UFS V2? Clear Window, SS Window. 2X Atty Extenders. An O'ring replacement kit (1x #8 Missing).

Funky, put it to one side for a while and come back to it refreshed.

I do know how you feel and at one point, I wanted to give up on trying as it was so frustrating for me as I felt I had tried everything I could to stop the leakage to no avail.

Between all of us, I'm sure we can come up with a solution

 

[EsxPaul]

I'll chip in with another thought, if I may.

Have you taken the connector on it's own and screwed your atty/carto into it so you can take a close up look at how they are seating against one another?

If that looks ok to you then maybe you have access to a vernier caliper? If you do, perhaps you could check to see if they are measuring up equally on both sides of their theading (as per Imeo's video) to ensure they meet the base cup accurately.

If we look at a possible worst case scenario where either the connector or base cup are somehow out of spec, you may have to get a new piece from Bruce and that will be a much more viable option than selling imho. I think you would regret it in the future if you did.

I hope I'm not coming across as telling you what to do as I just want to see you get it fixed buddy.

Here are a couple of threads that will give you some guidance with relation to the connector and base cup. these things are very rare but are possible:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/264646-ufs-v2-out-spec-part-6-collector-core.html

and:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/236056-new-ufs-leaking.html

 

[FunkyVapes]

I'll chip in with another thought, if I may.

Have you taken the connector on it's own and screwed your atty/carto into it so you can take a close up look at how they are seating against one another?

If that looks ok to you then maybe you have access to a vernier caliper? If you do, perhaps you could check to see if they are measuring up equally on both sides of their theading (as per Imeo's video) to ensure they meet the base cup accurately.

If we look at a possible worst case scenario where either the connector or base cup are somehow out of spec, you may have to get a new piece from Bruce and that will be a much more viable option than selling imho. I think you would regret it in the future if you did.

I hope I'm not coming across as telling you what to do as I just want to see you get it fixed buddy.

Here are a couple of threads that will give you some guidance with relation to the connector and base cup. these things are very rare but are possible:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/264646-ufs-v2-out-spec-part-6-collector-core.html

and:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/236056-new-ufs-leaking.html

I completely appreciate your assistance, and trust me, I've sat backseat while others have had issues and thrown in the towel, but I'm a smart fella, I know that it's not just the atomizers/cartomizers and I can clearly isolate where the issue is occurring. I've tried two LR 510s from canvape, 2 Genuine Joye LR 510s, which I've used for months in the UFS without issue. A Genuine Joye 306, 4 Brand new Boge Cartos from COV, a 306 Carto from COV and they all produce the same results. I don't have a vernier caliper unfortunately.

I've read through those threads and I don't think any of them reflect my issue, and I'm certainly not taking a dremel to a GG product

I won't be buying the parts from COV as without isolating the issue to the malfunctioning part I'll have to drop another $100 or more into it. I will post it on the classsies to see if I can try to can cash or trade for an Ody.

 

[EsxPaul]

I was just thinking about the issues you have had recently and maybe as a last attempt, we could try to retrace your steps?

I know you had leaking issues and replaced those 2 small o rings. I asume everything was back to normal after that.

You then tried the Boge carto and had major leaking. Could it be possible that screwing that carto in made a difference somewhere because everything screwed in subsequently doesn't seem to form a good seal.

And as my last attempt to convince you, I'm quite happy to send you my UFS connector and base cup to try out for comparison. If yours are subsequently proven to be faulty, perhaps Imeo/Bruce/Cameron would send out replacements to me at some point in the future?

I'll back off at this point as you probably feel like flying over to the UK to tear my head off

 

[imeothanasis]

are the 2 tiny o-rings in place Funky? UFS cant start leaking suddenly when it was working fine for months.

 

[FunkyVapes]

I was just thinking about the issues you have had recently and maybe as a last attempt, we could try to retrace your steps?

I know you had leaking issues and replaced those 2 small o rings. I asume everything was back to normal after that.

You then tried the Boge carto and had major leaking. Could it be possible that screwing that carto in made a difference somewhere because everything screwed in subsequently doesn't seem to form a good seal.

And as my last attempt to convince you, I'm quite happy to send you my UFS connector and base cup to try out for comparison. If yours are subsequently proven to be faulty, perhaps Imeo/Bruce/Cameron would send out replacements to me at some point in the future?

I'll back off at this point as you probably feel like flying over to the UK to tear my head off

Oh my friend, I'm calm like lip balm, and I appreciate all of your help. I just don't like when things don't work. I don't think screwing in a brass or aluminium tipped carto/atty changed anything, Imeo's products are much more solid. I appreciate the offer but the reason I want to get rid of it is because I can't stand waiting for things, it drives me bonkers that I haven't been able to use my favourite ecig in almost two weeks now. I literally have no patience for anything, at all. I know it's an awful anti-virtue to have but that's just me

I would never tear a family member's head off, and I still have a huge GG surprise for everybody, including Imeo, that I think you are all going to go bonkers for Should be ready to show in June.

are the 2 tiny o-rings in place Funky? UFS cant start leaking suddenly when it was working fine for months.

Yes they are good now. I took the whole thing apart down to the teeny tiny O'rings and double-checked that everything is in place. The only thing I have changed was adding a #8 O'ring and replacing the two #4s. Am I right that the #4s have nothing to do with juice coming out of the air holes?

Something is happening between the atty and the UFS Base / Bottom Cup because when I put water or VG in there with the juice control closed all the way it leaks, no matter what Cartos or Atties I try. I will try to make a video when I get time, maybe that will help get to the bottom of this mystery.

I really appreciate everybody's input, I wish I could get my UFS working again, it used to be my favourite vaping tool.

 

[Huffelpuff]

Vaping's great when it's working but there is nothing more frustrating than when it's not.

 

[PaulieD]

Yes...sometimes just walking away and revisiting later is the best policy. I become so obsessed with wanting things immediately if not sooner that I can get totally and completely frustrated...the worse it gets the more I don't want to give up....I keep pushing. Then when I am on the verge of true insanity......I find something else to distract me...another words I feel your pain.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Yes...sometimes just walking away and revisiting later is the best policy. I become so obsessed with wanting things immediately if not sooner that I can get totally and completely frustrated...the worse it gets the more I don't want to give up....I keep pushing. Then when I am on the verge of true insanity......I find something else to distract me...another words I feel your pain.

Vaping's great when it's working but there is nothing more frustrating than when it's not.

Thanks guys

 

[Huffelpuff]

Funky, you're not alone lol. Got my UFS working yesterday - worked all day into this morning like a dream. Decided today to take it apart, do a more thorough cleaning, lube the threads and put back together. Have since dumped every tank I've filled into the collector cap. I'm disgusted. Think that mine has something to do w/ how I put the connector pin back together. It's too loose despite the fact that I've put back all of the orings. Floods the atty then drains to the collector cup. My juice supply is fading as is my patience.

Hoping that I can figure it out. My office and my clothes reak of GJ. I'ts gross.

 

[EsxPaul]

The only thing I have changed was adding a #8 O'ring

If you have enough spares on hand, I would try replacing the other, existing #8 also.

 

[VapingTums]

Just curious but how come people are using cartos in the UFS? Isn't an atty generally superior to the carto taste? I haven't tried many cartos but so far they haven't been a good experience. Seems strange to use a carto in something that can feed an atty perfectly like the UFS?

 

[fright88]

Just curious but how come people are using cartos in the UFS? Isn't an atty generally superior to the carto taste? I haven't tried many cartos but so far they haven't been a good experience. Seems strange to use a carto in something that can feed an atty perfectly like the UFS?

I've never had an atomizer that didn't taste like burnt crap. JMHO though. Cartos are great for a day or so then they start tasting burnt also but Attys taste burnt immediatlyh for me.

 

[Huffelpuff]

I don't use cartos at all. Vape vg juice here so they really mess up the flavor for me.

 

[Huffelpuff]

My problem is solved. Was using the wrong collector cup