Bought my first mech mod. Need some pointers.

[Baditude]

Will I need a multimeter or will my Provari be enough?

If using common juice attachments, no. Your Provari can check both atomizer resistance and remaining battery voltage.

If you are going to use self-built coils in an RBA/rda, the multimeter will prove invaluable in checking the resistance. The Provari will give an error code if there's a short, while the multimeter will still give a reading. You don't want to fire any homemade coil with power without first checking the resistance. The Provari checks resistance "under load", meaning it applies power to the atty to check and measure it.

Never check atty resistance in an unfilled cartomizer with a Provari. Since it checks under load, it could ruin it by powering the heating coil and burning the dry polyfill. PBusardo recorded this event by demonstrating it and the carto went up in flames.

 

[SilverZero]

That's about right, I would think. Anything over 4.5 volts (I don't use variable wattage) and you likely start to put some strain on the protected batteries. I would keep an eye on the battery voltage as they drain; they would be most vulnerable to stress as voltages get to 4.4 voltage remaining.

I'm going to assume you meant 3.4V.

 

[jars 85]

hi,

Never posted on here before but have read plenty and used alot of advice.
I am having trouble with this whole mechanical mod thing, I want to get a cheap one and have a go at it and see what I think but I also want it to be safe and I want to make sure im using the right equipment.
I was looking at getting the sentinal mech mod ($12.45 from vapor Break), apart from that im not sure what else I need, is anyone able to basically write me a "shopping list" of what they would recommend, including a kick and the batteries, and also if there is a shop that can supply everything in the one hit instead of buy on thing from one supplier and the rest from another.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers.

P.S I was planning on using something i have lying around like an evod or a vivi nova, are these suitable?

 

[RagingCheese]

Would you guys recommend these batteries? Found them on VaporJoes
2 Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li on 18650 Battery 2250mAh New | eBay

Also how about this kick module?
The Kick by Smok Tech

 

[RagingCheese]

Or just spend the extra money and go with AW IMR Li-Mn? Are these the correct ones?
AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh

And instead of the Kick, go with Vape Safe Mod? This however, you cant adjust the wattage correct? Like with the Evolv or Smoktech Kick?
Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

 

[RagingCheese]

Although, if I go with a kick or Vape Safe Mod Fuse, I will need 18490/18500 batteries right?

I apologize in advance for all the questions.

 

[Baditude]

Would you guys recommend these batteries? Found them on VaporJoes
2 Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li on 18650 Battery 2250mAh New | eBay

That's a very good battery. It looks authentic. (gotta be careful with ebay) I have one of those in a botton top to go with my AW IMR's 18650 2000mah. It lasts me all day or little longer in my Provari.

As said above, using a Kick or a Vape Safe it takes up some room in the battery compartment, so you have to drop down to the next smaller battery. 18490/18500 IMR works. http://rtdvapor.com/online-store/batteries/aw-imr-18490-3-7v-detail

 

[edgardblu]

Genny = Genesis style RBA
RBA = Rebuildable atomizer
RDA = Rebuildable Dripping atomizer.

A mechanical mod needs protected batteries.

Actually, you need IMR batteries. Protected batteries explode, IMR batteries vent, they are less dangerous.

But your explanation on the differences is spot on.

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[RagingCheese]

That's a very good battery. It looks authentic. (gotta be careful with ebay) I have one of those in a botton top to go with my AW IMR's 18650 2000mah. It lasts me all day or little longer in my Provari.

Can't speak for the Kick; don't have one.

Whats the main difference some go button or flat top? Is it just that certain mods will only take button or flat top? Will these flat top work with my provari as well seeing that they are flat top and the I currently have button top batteries.

 

[Baditude]

I am having trouble with this whole mechanical mod thing, I want to get a cheap one and have a go at it and see what I think but I also want it to be safe and I want to make sure im using the right equipment.
I was looking at getting the sentinal mech mod ($12.45 from vapor Break), apart from that im not sure what else I need, is anyone able to basically write me a "shopping list" of what they would recommend, including a kick and the batteries, and also if there is a shop that can supply everything in the one hit instead of buy on thing from one supplier and the rest from another.

P.S I was planning on using something i have lying around like an evod or a vivi nova, are these suitable?

I don't have a Sentinal, but I looked at the description and customer comments. It uses 18650/18350 batteries as a telescoping mechanical. You should be able to use an 18490/18500 size battery and be able to fit a Kick or Vape Safe in their easily (they do take up some room). Comments said it uses an 510 aluminum connector to attach juice devices and that they can strip easily if not careful. I didn't see batteries, Kicks, or Vape Safes at Vapor Break. Evod would need a 510-to-eGo connector, a Vivi Nova would fit without one.

Sentinel mech mod - Sentinel Mechanical Mod

You can get the below items at RTD Vapor:

AW 18490 IMR battery - Batteries : AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mAh

Kick - Evolv Kick

Vape Safe Mod Fuse - Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

The Vape Safe is only a re-usable fuse, it does not adjust voltage. The Kick devices do adjust voltage, and also have protective circuitry so you wouldn't need a Vape Safe if you use this.

510-to-eGo adaptor - http://rtdvapor.com/online-store/accessories/adapters/510-ego-detail

 

[Baditude]

Whats the main difference some go button or flat top? Is it just that certain mods will only take button or flat top? Will these flat top work with my provari as well seeing that they are flat top and the I currently have button top batteries.

With some mods, the manufacturer has designed them to accept one or the other. Provape designed the Provari to accept only button top batteries as a safety feature. This prevents accidentally loading the batteries in backwards, in which bad things can happen.

 

[Racehorse]

1) Don't use those batteries in your mech. They are UN-protected.

So are IMR batteries. They are safe chemistry but not "protected". They are high drain.

Protected batts would be something like ICR AWs. They have cells inside w/protection circuits.

Baditude covers this in post #8

But IMRs are not protected batteries.

 

[jars 85]

I don't have a Sentinal, but I looked at the description and customer comments. It uses 18650/18350 batteries as a telescoping mechanical. You should be able to use an 18490/18500 size battery and be able to fit a Kick or Vape Safe in their easily (they do take up some room). Comments said it uses an 510 aluminum connector to attach juice devices and that they can strip easily if not careful. I didn't see batteries, Kicks, or Vape Safes at Vapor Break. Evod would need a 510-to-eGo connector, a Vivi Nova would fit without one.

Sentinel mech mod - Sentinel Mechanical Mod

You can get the below items at RTD Vapor:

AW 18490 IMR battery - Batteries : AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mAh

Kick - Evolv Kick

Vape Safe Mod Fuse - Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

The Vape Safe is only a re-usable fuse, it does not adjust voltage. The Kick devices do adjust voltage, and also have protective circuitry so you wouldn't need a Vape Safe if you use this.

510-to-eGo adaptor - Adapters : 510 to eGo Adapter

Thanks for all your information, really appreciate it.
Looks like I have my shopping list, just one more question, if i was to just buy those batteries and the vape safe and not bother with the kick would that work ok? Sorry about all the questions, I think i just need to experiment to work things out myself really.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks for all your information, really appreciate it.
Looks like I have my shopping list, just one more question, if i was to just buy those batteries and the vape safe and not bother with the kick would that work ok? Sorry about all the questions, I think i just need to experiment to work things out myself really.

Yes, that would work. The mod should have a spring to take up any slack.

 

[RagingCheese]

With some mods, the manufacturer has designed them to accept one or the other. Provape designed the Provari to accept only button top batteries as a safety feature. This prevents accidentally loading the batteries in backwards, in which bad things can happen.

Thanks for the info. I will go ahead and purchase the AW IMR LiMn batteries instead so I can use them in my Provari as well. Thanks for all your input.

 

[jmaw]

What is considered a Genesis style?

A genesis is rebuildable atomizer with a tank at the bottom. You build a coil and wrap it around a wicking material. I have one (the Jonboy Lavagen) and I liked them at first but I like RBAs and RDAs more now.

You use kanthal wire and can use stainless steel mesh or stainless steel cable for a wick. There are other options but that seems to be everyone's favorite including me.

If you want to get into it and not break the bank, get a RSST. They are pretty cheap.. Around the 25-30 dollar range.

Personally I want to get back into it now that there is a new Genny out there called the Kraken by Vicious Ant. Looks great and Vicious Ant made one of my favorite drippers I own currently, the Cyclone.

Good luck!


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[articus]

1. I have a couple of 18500 Efest v2 batteries that I already currently use in my Provari. Will these be ok to use in a mech? Or should I purchase AW IMR or Panasonic batteries?
2. Do you guys suggest in investing a kick? If so, is the Smoktech brand sufficient or should I invest in the Evolv?
3. Is running the batteries below a certain voltage dangerous in a mech? When should I switch batteries out?
4. Whats the difference between a genny, RBA, and RDA?

Thanks in advance

Panasonic battery for sure!
If you got money for extra 2-3 batteries then you dont need kick at all.
For safety: get 2 cent defuse
If battery gets low, you will feel by your vape experience, nothing dangerous at all.
Genny, RBA, RDA hmmm... start with RSST, then come back to us

 

[sawtoothscream]

Since im now annoyed and doubting my choice ill ask this here.

I bought panasonic ncr18650pd high drain batteries. I am using them in a mech mod. suppose to be a hybrid hi drain with safe chem 10A continuous 18a burst.

Are these safer to use like a AW IMR is in a mech mod or are they going to blow up on me? Cant find a consistent answer anywhere

thanks