Brand new Magneto issues

[cha6040]

I just bought a brand new genuine magneto 2 days ago and yesterday it started sparking at the button and shocking/burning my finger. I tried different batteries and disassembled it multiple times trying to find any sort of reason for a short. I love it because it's great looking and that button is oh so smooth. But it is unusable in it's current state. Any help is welcome.

 

[cha6040]

BTW I did a search on this topic and one other person had the same issue and only myself and one other person responded so hence the new thread. Hoping for some more help than he got.

 

[duc916]

I'm guessing you have a spring in the switch and the ground path is either solely or highly dependent on that spring for current path, right?

Isn't that the mod that had 3 versions, the first two being good, and the last version having issues like yours?

 

[cha6040]

It actually uses reverse polarity magnets instead of a spring which is why the button press is so silky smooth. I'm not sure which version I have though

 

[Cotay]

It would be helpful to know which Magneto you have. A quick way to tell is:

1. If you can't install the battery from the bottom, venting is out the bottom and you don't have a floating 510 pin, you have v1 of the original Magneto.
2. If you can't install the battery from the bottom, venting is out two holes on the tube with one on each side and you have a floating 510 pin, you have v2 of the original Magneto.
3. If you can install the battery from the bottom (i.e. you have a self contained button assembly that does not block the tube), venting is out three holes on the side of the tube and you have a floating 510 you have a Magneto II.

Any chance you can upload a picture? If you have the original Magneto, the button assembly was known to be problematic with the retention ring coming loose.

EDIT: Edited to correct venting on v2 model.

 

[cha6040]

Then I believe I have a II. I'll post a pic as soon as I can

 

[cha6040]

 

[Cotay]

That actually might be an original Magneto v2. I forgot about the single vent hole on the side. You also don't appear to have the "II" stamped after "Magneto". When you take the switch off of the battery tube, is there a magnetic/delrin ring still in the battery tube? Can you take a pic of your switch when removed from the tube? I can better tell that way. Also, is your lock ring loose at all?

 

[cha6040]

The lock ring isn't any looser than any other mod I guess. I'll get a couple pics of the button innards soon

 

[cha6040]

And I think it has 3 breather holes around the larger tube

 

[Cotay]

And I think it has 3 breather holes around the larger tube

That would be more in line with the "II". I can't really tell, but does it say "Magneto II" on your lock ring or just the "Magneto"? Here are some pics of my Magneto II:





Smok really made these hard to identify...and the issue is compounded since merchants aren't clear on what version they are selling.

 

[cha6040]

It just says Magneto. I just left the shop, they completely disassembled it and cleaned all the parts. We found a small piece of what looked like glue on the threads of one of the gold rings, scraped it off and reassembled it. No spark as of yet. Hope that fixed it.

 

[cha6040]

Oh and it only has 2 breather holes about halfway up the larger tube, one on each side

 

[Cotay]

It just says Magneto. I just left the shop, they completely disassembled it and cleaned all the parts. We found a small piece of what looked like glue on the threads of one of the gold rings, scraped it off and reassembled it. No spark as of yet. Hope that fixed it.

Interesting...I know that gunk on the threads can do strange things, but I've never heard of it sparking. Glad it seems to be fixed. Does your bottom switch assembly look like the one I posted above? Note that mine is an "all-in-one" unit. From what I can tell you have the v2 of the original Magneto.

 

[cha6040]

No, mine looks quite a bit different

 

[cha6040]

I'll take a pic and post later. Headed to the bar for some drinks and further testing on the magneto

 

[cha6040]

So got to the bar and it pretty much immediately shocked me. I'm going to go trade it for another at the shop tomorrow. Sad day

 

[Cotay]

I'll take a pic and post later. Headed to the bar for some drinks and further testing on the magneto

Enjoy! I'm sitting at home writing a paper for a class and enjoying a vape of some Gemini Royalty on my VS DNA30 and some Cosmic Fog Milk & Honey in my Magneto!

Regarding that spark, I can only think that somehow the contact got screwed up and there was an arc of electricity across to the switch/housing. All the more reason to make sure our gear is clean and our switches nice and secure.

 

[Cotay]

So got to the bar and it pretty much immediately shocked me. I'm going to go trade it for another at the shop tomorrow. Sad day

Dang. I know Phil Busardo showed in his review of the original Magneto that there were issues with the switch in that it could come loose and still fire. What battery are you using? I'd recommend that you see if you can get the Magneto II...it's been excellent and the new switch design should eliminate any funny behavior.

 

[cha6040]

I'm using a VTC4 and I've tried several batteries with the same issue. Good thing I brought my panzer with me too