brick and motars are doomed no mater what happens

[sketchness]

My first 3 setups were from brick and mortar. All in rapid succession within about one month.

I bought a sigelei 100 watt one month later and it has been mostly online since. The only stuff in the last year I bought in person was because my daughter worked for a vape distributor. Great prices but once something was OOS they rarely got more.

 

[Oberon75]

B&M's are most certainly doomed and it has nothing to do with DIY. Most juice makers are doomed as well. This is an industry which now primarily consists of getting you to consume mass quantities of low nic juice at high wattages.

These companies are making a killing right now off of this but eventually its all going to be gone regardless of what bill passes. These inexperienced business owners forgot about two things. Taxes and grandfather dates.

When Uncle Sam decides he wants his cut and something like a 15ml is relevant to the cost of a carton of cigarettes, their customers aren't going to be able to afford it anymore. The only option for most will be to raise their nic and lower their watts.

But guess what? The vast majority of juice makers didn't think to get a strength above 6mg out before the FDA froze the market.

And its not like these shops would be able to stay in business anyway even if they moved to the companies with higher strengths. For they have built their businesses around people guzzling a 30ml every day or two at $15 to $25 a bottle. They are complaining about overhead now to justify their prices? Just wait.



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[Racehorse]

brick and motars are already doomed. with all of these people stocking up they will not have any need to go to a brick and motor. .

"hobby" vaping forums are about 30% of the ecig market. Maybe less.

Most people are not stocking up, and most people looking to quit smoking are going to walk into their local vape shoppe.

With the rules about mailing and face to face type regs, (as well as mailing of batteries, etc. ) brick and mortars will do better, not worse.

 

[Racehorse]

These inexperienced business owners forgot about two things. Taxes and grandfather dates.

No, what most "business owners" forgot or never learned in this industry was that industries form centralized professional trade orgs which allows them to pool resources to have important things like lobby groups ---- if they want to have a say in things, esp. politics.

That ship sailed a long time ago, and I was saying back in 2012 that this should have been front and forward.

Unfortunately, vaping companies thought sponsoring race cars, getting cash infusions from high profile entrepreneurs like ex-Napster guys to make splashy ad copy/propaganda for their business, and/or making as much $ while the gettin' was good was more important.

Now, the industry has pretty much remained in a highly defensive position because it has no power whatsoever. and very few alliances with other industries or businesses or causes.

 

[RainSong]

I bought my first ego and juice online. It didn't quite work for me so I went into the B&M for help. A few days later I went back for my first mod. I got juice there too but now I'm DIY'ing. I notice now that their hardware stock was relatively low, and I hate going in there during the weekend, total "duuuuuude" hangout. I did go in to our nearest "other lung sport enthusiast" store last night for a calibration weight and saw that they have a MASSIVE selection of hardware. If I had money to burn it would have been on fire. I'm just not sure how knowledgeable each employee would be as their expertise has to cover several different fields, compared to the B&M where all they do is vape. I do like to get what I can at the B&M. All the guys at the one I go to have been super knowledgeable. I hope they don't go under.

 

[jwilkers]

More and more b&ms imho are going high end. Their products are cost prohibitive. My idea was a safer AND cheaper alternative to smoking. They could price themselves out of business.

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[beckdg]

The premise here is preposterous.

#ABillionLives --->

How many have vaped or do vape already?

Now if one were to say the interwebs or China might kill B&Ms, they might have something.

Or if sales were banned altogether...

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

My first cig a likes were from Walmart.

You didn't specify B&M or online. [emoji14]

Tapatyped

 

[Bad Ninja]

You didn't specify B&M or online. [emoji14]

Tapatyped

B&M.
A superwalmart to be specific.

Then I did my research and never looked back.

 

[Ali Holloway]

I don't think B&M shops will suffer. There are those like me, who live in states like Arkansas who can't purchase juice online anymore, and don't want or have the time to do it ourselves. There are also those, like me, that choose to support small, locally owned business owners and will pay the extra $30 instead of ordering something online.