British American Tobacco reports a 8.7% cigarette volume decline in Western Europe in first half of 2014

[Bill Godshall]

British American tobacco reports .4% decline in cigarette volume in first six months of 2014, including an 8.7% decline in Western Europe (from 57 Billion to 52 Billion sticks), 1.5% decline in the Americas, 4% increase in Asia-Pacific, and .9% increase in Eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa
http://www.bat.com/group/sites/UK__9D9KCY.nsf/vwPagesWebLive/DO72TJQU?opendocument&SKN=1
http://www.bat.com/group/sites/uk__...ve/DO72TJQU/$FILE/medMD9MGMTB.pdf?openelement


Please note that BAT doesn't sell cigarettes in the US, and that Canada and Brazil have banned e-cig sales.

Notice that cigarette volumes have been declining most rapidly in Western Europe (and the US), where e-cig sales have skyrocketed.

Would be helpful if someone compared cigarette volume declines (e.g. during the past three years) in countries where e-cigs have been banned compared to countries where e-cigs are legal (and largely unregulated). Doing so would reveal that banning e-cigs only protects cigarette markets and threatens the lives of smokers and vapers.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Would be helpful if someone compared cigarette volume declines (e.g. during the past three years) in countries where e-cigs have been banned compared to countries where e-cigs are legal (and largely unregulated). Doing so would reveal that banning e-cigs only protects cigarette markets and threatens the lives of smokers and vapers.

Possibly another crowd funded study?
Anyone know a neutral statistician with a good reputation who could do this?

 

[Uma]

Michael J. McFadden. Unbiased, stats genius, but he is a freedom of choice person that has solved many riddles concerning doses in his two popular books, Dissecting Antismokers Brains and TobakkoNacht, the AntiSmoking EndGame.

 

[Kent C]

Would be helpful if someone compared cigarette volume declines (e.g. during the past three years) in countries where e-cigs have been banned compared to countries where e-cigs are legal (and largely unregulated). Doing so would reveal that banning e-cigs only protects cigarette markets and threatens the lives of smokers and vapers.

Just googling percentage of smokers:

Canada:
Smokers, by sex, provinces and territories (Percent)

Pretty flat for the last 5 years - a rise in 2012 but then a dip in 2013.

Can't find a similar graph for Brazil but there's this:

WHO | Brazil and tobacco use: a hard nut to crack

"As a result of such initiatives, smoking prevalence has come down in the past two decades from 34% of the adult population in 1989 to 15% last year, according to the Brazilian Ministry of Health. But the declining trend has tailed off over the past few years as tobacco companies target new consumers, notably women.

Of course any rise anywhere is going to be blamed on the cigarette companies and any decline 'as a result of gov't regulation' etc. etc.

 

[Anjaffm]

excellent find, Bill Thank you!

 

[sonicdsl]

When were ecigs banned in Canada?

 

[Kent C]

When were ecigs banned in Canada?

There's a nic ban in eliquid, April 2011. Hardware still available though.

 

[sonicdsl]

I've heard it explained several times that there is not a nic ban in liquid, that HC just pretends there is one, ergo no literal ban. I know once I heard it on a VapeTeam show explained by a Canadian supplier...saw it in writing somewhere too. Can't recall at the moment where though. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Kent C]

sonic... I see this now:

E-cigarettes in regulatory grey zone: Are they banned or aren't they? | CTV News

"But e-cigarettes that are not “expressly intended” for nicotine delivery continue to exist in a regulatory grey zone, neither approved nor banned in Canada. And even while e-cigarette “juice” that contains nicotine is officially not permitted for sale in Canada, the enforcement of that ban has been spotty at best, says Melodie Tilson, the director of policy for the Non-Smokers’ Rights Association.

“In fact, we do have e-cigarettes with nicotine that are readily available on the market due to a lack of enforcement and because it’s very hard for consumers to know whether they contain nicotine,” she recently told CTV’s Canada AM."

... without going to Health Canada directly..... I'm on my way out right now, eh? ;- )