Brown Sugar Cotton Candy and Ethyl Maltol, Similar?

[BrotherBob]

Brown Sugar Cotton Candy and Ethyl Maltol, Similar?
My taste buds might be gone, however is it possible that substituting any one of these concentrates in place of another, pretty much provides the same outcome in a multiple mix recipe?
Note that I'm referring to TFA only in the above question. Other DIY mfr's of Cotton Candy may be distinct.
Wizard : "All Wizard Labs flavor concentrates are undiluted, full strength concentrates from the manufacturer, and contain no Diacetyl.
Recommended usage is to test at 5% flavoring in your solution, and adjust to taste." (TFA?)

TFA Ethyl Maltol 0.5%
Tiny Bit (A fraction of 1% in your mix) - Gives a "body" to the vapor and may slightly reduce sharp notes.
A Bit (Close to 1% +/- in your mix) - As above but will take the edge off sharp notes and may very slightly sweeten.
A Bunch (1%-5% of your total mix) - As above plus sweeten
A Load (10%+ of your total mix) - Cotton Candy flavor (EM info written by Hoosier)
TFA Brown Sugar 1-2%
TFA Cotton Candy 5% and up.
The above percentages were gleaned from past ECF threads to numerous to count or reference.

Very confusing group of concentrate products. Maybe they all probably contain EM in certain percentages.
What I'm trying to understand here is, pretty much knowing the percentages of EM in all the subject concentrates, could one just substitute one for the other and adjust? I guessing that :
complimentary,caramel/cotton candy,richness,moistness,sweetness,smooth,peanut butter effect,taking Edge off,tobacco mix use,etc., (claims for some of the concetrates)
can be accounted for (Example:use in a peanut butter mix) in a PB mix? Use EM or CC in place of and adjust to what you want to bring out?
To say it another way:
If I'm using a peanut butter recipe and it calls for TFA Brown Sugar, could I substitute a low percentage of EM and whatever else I decide to use compensate for with no Brown Sugar available?
Knowing someone will post and state the three all have their particular use in a mix and bring different tastes etc. to the mix is fine, but:
If this does not make any sense, please feel free to ignore.
If this thread sorta makes sense, whats your take?
If you tried substituting and adjusting what did you find?


RE: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/512992-tfa-brown-sugar-extra-how-much-use.html

 

[Das Auto]

Cotton Candy and EA, perhaps. But NOT Brown Sugar. Totally different Flavor Profiles.

Good Luck

 

[AndriaD]

Brown sugar flavoring is primarily for that flavor; it's not a sweetener.

Ethyl maltol is actually usually mixed at 10% level -- approx a *scant* quarter-tsp of EM crystals in 10ml of PG; takes roughly a week to fully dissolve, with daily furious shaking.

Cotton candy and EM are *sometimes* analogous, but not always; cotton candy flavor is mostly EM, but EM is just EM, and the taste can vary a lot, depending on the precision (or lack thereof) of measuring the crystals into the PG.

For true sweetness, you really need sucralose, such as TFA's Sweetener. I've also tried Ecigexpress's branded sweetener (sucralose), and it seems much the same as TFA's.

Andria

 

[BrotherBob]

Agree. But what I'm asking is can you approximate the taste each gives by substituting others? Do you really need to buy all 3?

 

[AndriaD]

It depends on the flavor desired. I routinely substitute EM for Cotton Candy, but some say they're different. Mostly I just use sucralose, but recipes such as apple pie would also need some brown sugar, and some of the cinnamony recipes benefit from the brown sugar taste too. The thing is, not all "sweetness" tastes the same; sure it's all sweet, but still tastes different, or why else would so many varieties exist? The most intense sweetness will be from sucralose, but that sweetness can be flavored in various ways, depending on what you add to it.

Andria

 

[dannyv45]

EM and cotton candy are very close and are EM based. Circus cotton candy on the other hand is very different even though it has mostly EM it has additional flavoring to make it taste more like cotton candy then EM alone. Brown sugar or Maple syrup is completely different with an almost maple/caramal note. If it's pure sweetness your looking for I would say sucralose would be the best choice. So based on this you should be able to make an informed selection.

 

[BrotherBob]

Agree. What I'm looking for is:
No Brown Sugar, substitute x, y and z. to approximate. Or No EM, substitute..........etc..
Can this be done? Have you tried doing this ? If so what are the results?
Might be an idea for a blog?