I have some flavors from DIY Flavorshack, Kahlua with Cream, Creme de cafe, Clearly Coffee. They all have a burnt taste, not a creamy coffee taste. I made 10ml of each and tried to like a few ml of each. Ended up dumping them all together. Any ideas of a flavor I could toss into the moat to get something vapable out of this?
Burnt Coffee
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I vaped several different coffee juices and they all taste a little burnt. The ones that tasted the least burnt were the ones with a LOT of cream. Obviously, coffee beans are roasted so getting that coffee taste with out the burnt flavor in a juice must be somewhat difficult.
FA Vienna Cream, Vanilla Classic, either one, I'd say. HeadInClouds makes a Tiramisu recipe with TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust. FA Tiramisu tastes a whole like the Espresso. Really yummy.
Whipped Cream/Marshmallow?
Caramel or Hazelnut? Both!
Whipped Cream/Marshmallow?
Caramel or Hazelnut? Both!
Paul - that "borrowed" coffee recipe is in one of my blogs. It really is cheap and good.
Junior RP - I'll send you some of mine next week (like I promised before).
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I think some are just like that.. I had a 'cappuccino' that tasted just like burnt 3 day old truck stop coffee... yuck!
What wattage are you trying them on?
agreed with huck, I have tried a good handful of coffee flavors. most need jazzed up a bit, but anyways I can only suggest low percentages unless you use the the 20 second extract method. I'd start off at 1% on any coffee flavor and go up or down from there. not sure who to credit this to but what I learned in the past with alot of flavors actually is to get your "cream" figured out first. say you want vanilla coffee or whatever. once you decided how you want the vanilla to taste slowly add drop by drop the coffee in and taste and repeat if needed. coffee can be tricky but once you figure out where you like you coffee at then they are fun to play with. check out FA espresso and FA tiramisu . super easy to work with and very good.
speaking of and not really relevant to this topic and not bashing the process but that 20 second method is so funny. people create massive threads on steeping juice and then when it comes to actually needing to steep something its 20 seconds in the microwave lol... steeping is soaking a solid in a liquid to extract a flavor. not mixing a liquid with a liquid then ultra sonic cleaning it lol.that is only really mixing it .. my 2 cents had to throw it out there. bet them coffee extract would be way better if left for weeks if not months then you could use it in drops not 5% at a time.
The butter creme did mellow it out some after an overnight steep. Maybe in a few days it will get better. If not I will toss in some marshmallow.
I got some bittersweet chocolate from WL that doesn't taste like chocolate to me. Maybe I'll toss that in too.
I got some bittersweet chocolate from WL that doesn't taste like chocolate to me. Maybe I'll toss that in too.
If it comes to this... before deciding to dump or be done with it, maybe add some more base? I'm vaping tiramisu, which is a LOT like espresso imo, with cheesecake still. The tiramisu is at .5%, seriously. It's worth a try. Just a thought.
I realize they're different vendors and all, but I read a lot of experiences where people may simply be using too much of a really strong flavor. I'm learning that TFA is all over the place with %s. Yours could be too.
I realize they're different vendors and all, but I read a lot of experiences where people may simply be using too much of a really strong flavor. I'm learning that TFA is all over the place with %s. Yours could be too.
Not to take issue with your position, or your definitions. As we say here in DIY - YMMV.
I have left the coffee to "soak" in the liquid for 2 days after the 20 seconds of "cooking" before filtering it into a juice bottle. While the density of the liquid was darker, the taste was not very good - old, bitter, and almost rancid (My assessment.)
Tomorrow morning, make an extra cup of coffee (if you drink coffee), and let it just sit in the cup on the counter until Wednesday morning before you drink it. You will get a similar flavor to the flavor that my "long soak" method yielded. Exposure to the open air seems to affect the coffee - and not favorably.
Not being a chemist, and actually not being that interested in this, I have no idea why the "quick-cooked" and quick-capped extract is better. I just tasted some of the extract that is 3 weeks old and the flavor is pretty much the same. I do not have a "today" control sample to use for comparison.
I continue to look for and enjoy your posts. You guys come up with some good (sounding) combinations. All too often, I feel like the deer in the headlights as I stare at my 150+ flavorings, mixing apparatus, digital scales, magnetic stirrer, base liquid, bottles, UC, crock pot, food deyhdrator, digital thermometers, etc.
I just make some more of the 3 - 4 simple flavored juices that keep me happy and say"next time...".
Have a great day enjoying our hobby.
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right on I havent played with the coffee much. I have and do make my own VG extracts for other things and making different tinctures. even tried making perfumes scents with my daughter in pg. thats why I assumed that about the coffee because its the same thing. put cinnamon sticks or vanilla beans or whatever in a mason jar with vg or pg and close the lid and forget about it for a month. (you can speed steep it on the stove tho also lol) I still kinda suck at it so I have never found something I like to vape better than the flavors I can already buy. your way does taste more like a straight up cup of coffee I'll admit more than any flavoring I have tried . my coffee I drink sucks to so.... hahahaha. Im not saying you are wrong either seems everyone does coffee that way and loves it. goes to show the taste is subjective like everyone says
I ground up some of the costco beans and filled a little mustard jar, probably one ounce size with grounds and then pg until it soaked in then topped it off. I'm about out of pg after all this tobacco extracting. I see how it is on Wednesday and report. The rest of the grounds made 2 nice pots of coffee. My maker has a stainless carafe that keeps it hot for hours without heat. Good stuff. Only on the weekends. Cheap crap all week long.
I've never done coffee extractions, but I'm pretty familiar with the flavorings available, because I love coffee vapes.
For a standalone flavor of plain, unadorned, black coffee, FA Espresso is the only one that does not taste like skunk excretions to me, the only one I can vape and enjoy all by itself.
For a standalone coffee flavor that's something more than plain, FA Tiramisu tops my list. Real tiramisu isn't a liquid, but the flavoring by itself gives me espresso, dark cocoa, a little cream, low-level sweetness, and a whiff of vanilla cake. Simple to mix, very tasty. Still, I prefer sweeter and creamier, so....
For more complex recipes, I have successfully used a bunch of coffees, but those two FA flavors make all my fancy coffees taste their best. I take the approach of getting all the additions right first, whatever combo I'm after: caramel, Irish cream, fresh cream, vanilla, nuts, butterscotch, cocoa, whatever... Starbucks has great ideas on their website. Once that tastes right, I add 0.25-0.5% of my coffee flavoring, whether it's FA Espresso, Tiramisu, or the TFA coffees I used to use. I'll always try a tiny amount before adding more. Sweet, creamy, dessert-like coffee vapes are my favorite, so I rarely go over 1% on the coffee part.
For a standalone flavor of plain, unadorned, black coffee, FA Espresso is the only one that does not taste like skunk excretions to me, the only one I can vape and enjoy all by itself.
For a standalone coffee flavor that's something more than plain, FA Tiramisu tops my list. Real tiramisu isn't a liquid, but the flavoring by itself gives me espresso, dark cocoa, a little cream, low-level sweetness, and a whiff of vanilla cake. Simple to mix, very tasty. Still, I prefer sweeter and creamier, so....
For more complex recipes, I have successfully used a bunch of coffees, but those two FA flavors make all my fancy coffees taste their best. I take the approach of getting all the additions right first, whatever combo I'm after: caramel, Irish cream, fresh cream, vanilla, nuts, butterscotch, cocoa, whatever... Starbucks has great ideas on their website. Once that tastes right, I add 0.25-0.5% of my coffee flavoring, whether it's FA Espresso, Tiramisu, or the TFA coffees I used to use. I'll always try a tiny amount before adding more. Sweet, creamy, dessert-like coffee vapes are my favorite, so I rarely go over 1% on the coffee part.
If you're looking for a really nice coffee vape, head to Inawera and buy their Tobacco Cappuccino flavor (ECigExpress sells it too if you don't want to order overseas). You'll use 5-8 drops; perhaps 10 if you want it really strong. It's a nice mellow coffee with very little tobacco flavor and it doesn't taste burnt to me. It is dark, so the e-liquid is going to end up being darker, though at 10 drops per 10ml, it'll still be light enough to not kill your coils in a day.
The single rating on their site isn't representative of the flavor. It's really nice, IMO and I'm picky about my coffee.
As far as extractions go, I've found that lighter roasts work better overall. The darker you go, the more oils that get released and oils can go rancid pretty quickly when they are exposed to air time and time again. This happened to a lime extraction I did a while back and it gave me a solid 2-day headache when I vaped it.
The single rating on their site isn't representative of the flavor. It's really nice, IMO and I'm picky about my coffee.
As far as extractions go, I've found that lighter roasts work better overall. The darker you go, the more oils that get released and oils can go rancid pretty quickly when they are exposed to air time and time again. This happened to a lime extraction I did a while back and it gave me a solid 2-day headache when I vaped it.
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