burnt plastic hits from some joye 510 cartos but not others?

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got a new pack of 510 cartos to try some new flavors. used a syringe to inject 1 ml juice through the fill port. let them sit 20 minutes before trying. (5 new flavors i'm tasting). 3 out of the 5 have a nice clean (though muted compared to a boge carto) flavor. the other 2 start out horribly harsh with burnt plastic, i can feel it coating my tongue. i've read the burnt plastic complaint before in joye carto posts, but haven't seen a definitive answer as to what causes it. actually, had the same experience a few days ago trying a mega eGo carto; the first hit was so bad i threw it away, but fished it back out after researching some; over time it has gotten better tasting, but still has that plastic whiff to it. the 2nd eGo carto i tried didn't do this, so i thought maybe i had just screwed it up somehow. First hit is just AWFUL no vapor, need to scrape my tongue. after burning several more times and then taking some quick puffs and spitting them out, it vapes sorta ok, but the flavor is still ruined with the lingering burnt plastic taste.

but now with 2/5 of a new pack of regular 510 cartos doing the same thing, i'm wondering what's up? the one thing i don't know for sure is if it is possible to damage it or cause this to happen during the initial piercing of the fill port? That dang plastic is not thin at all; i used my 18 guage syringe to puncture it because the carto just laughed at the paper clip, and the nail i had handy hurt my hand more than the port when i tried to use it. even with the syringe, it took a LOT of force, so i'm wondering if there is so much material being forced into the chamber that it could be pushed onto the coil or element, or am i somehow hitting bottom and causing some damage by going in too deeply with the push that finally breaks through? (hrm, remember, this is a thread about vaping, keep your minds out of the gutter when u read that last sentence ). all the drawings of that type carto i've seen only show the top half, so i'm not sure what the construction at the bottom of the chamber and the heating element looks like?

kind of bums me out; based on reading here the "new" joye carto design seemed like a better concept than the older boge design, and i like the thinner body which works better with a cone on an eGo/Riva (though peeling the wrap off the boges takes care of that) but i really hate the time and juice wasted on these, especially since tasting the ones that DON'T have this issue assures me that the carto is certainly CAPABLE of vaping nicely.

TIA; i'm apparantly too much of a n00b to post in the carto or ask for help threads. (so, how helpful is an "ask the expert" sections if new members can't post there?)

 

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The first cartos I tried were Boge. I loved them. No bad taste, worked pretty much immediately. I went to order 2 more packs, and they were out of black. No big deal, send me pink.

Little to my knowledge, they were the Joye kind. I was kind of ticked at first, filling them would be more difficult, but I stuck with it. Filled with a new flavor and thought YUCK this is gross. Blamed it on the flavor and moved on. Filled my 2nd, and tasted the same thing. I realized it was the carto!

I had a minor issue with filling -- put a few drops in, it went straight through the bottom! I wasn't using a syringe, don't have any. Just dripping through the end with batt threads, holding it straight up and down. Now hold your carto up to a light -- you can see straight through it! So I changed the way I filled them. This got rid of the bad taste and allowed me to fill without leaking.

I put in a few drops through the battery end, and tilt it sideways. Few more drops, hold at a different angle. Tap it on its side a few times (tap it, roll it around, whatever -- get that liquid to absorb on the SIDES). Repeat this a few times.. Hold it up to a light and try to look through it until I can see through it (even if there's a tiny bit of liquid). Blow through very lightly on the battery side. Repeat the ENTIRE process a few times until your drops don't soak down.

The first fills (holding it vertically and dripping straight through) I guess I wasn't properly saturating the filler, and I was burning it up.

If I need to explain this a little better, let me know.. Not sure if it makes sense at all

 

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um, if you can see straight through them then they aren't joyes. the joyes have two round caps on the mouthpiece end. the first one (exterior) has one center hole. the cap undeneath it has two holes, offset to either side. below that is the top of the actual juice chamber, and it has a fill port that is solid plastic and must be punctured before using a syringe to seal through it. the design (at least from the exterior of the chamber and atty) is very similar to a separate atty and cart; there simply isn't a straight line of sight possible from the airhole at the thread end to the mouthpiece. maybe you got an slb instead of a joye. the joye has a plastic body, not a metal tube with a colored wrap.